What if Tlaib and Omar were citizens of another country and wanted to vist the US?

Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.

Dear @toomuchtime
If they came in through one of the countries under a ban,
they'd get stopped similar to how Israeli policy barred them.

I guess they'd have to sneak in through Saudi Arabia,
lie about their backgrounds the way the 9/11 hijackers did,
and get in that way. They just have to come in through a
country that has political ties with the govt, and it's okay.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
What century are you living in? Keeping them out of Israel in no way limited their freedom of speech. What it limited was their ability to incite more violence in Israel.


What violence are you insinuating?
I'm guessing you meant to ask what potential violence I was referring to. Their itinerary showed they intended to only speak to groups groups of Palestinians in Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem and if they continue to rant the anti Israeli nonsense they spout here it likely would have incited more terror attacks against Jews and caused the deaths of more Palestinians who attempted to carry out those attacks.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
Horseshit!!!!!
Israel banned them before Trump chimed in.
Now they're using it to attack Israel. They want the US to stop giving aide to the only Democratic ally in the region.

:1peleas:

This is why terrorists like Tlaib and Omar are in Congress. AND DEMOCRATS MADE IT POSSIBLE.!!!!!
 
Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.

Dear @toomuchtime
If they came in through one of the countries under a ban,
they'd get stopped similar to how Israeli policy barred them.

I guess they'd have to sneak in through Saudi Arabia,
lie about their backgrounds the way the 9/11 hijackers did,
and get in that way. They just have to come in through a
country that has political ties with the govt, and it's okay.
With their histories, I doubt they'd even be allowed in from Canada.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
What century are you living in? Keeping them out of Israel in no way limited their freedom of speech. What it limited was their ability to incite more violence in Israel.


What violence are you insinuating?
I'm guessing you meant to ask what potential violence I was referring to. Their itinerary showed they intended to only speak to groups groups of Palestinians in Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem and if they continue to rant the anti Israeli nonsense they spout here it likely would have incited more terror attacks against Jews and caused the deaths of more Palestinians who attempted to carry out those attacks.


What rant against Israel? And why would they have to speak to every group or groups that Israel approved of?
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
No liar, he was advocating for them to be barred because of their racist hated fill content directed toward Israel, using his free speech to do so.
 
Just like with illegals, the USA is not obligated to allow anyone and everyone in. We decide for ourselves, no one imposes that on us(a)
 
He is not free to speak his mind?

Not to advocate that American citizens be punished for speaking theirs.


They have a right to speak their opposition to Israel.

Right.


Israel has the right to not allow in people, whom are hostile to them.

Right.


As they do NOT have the Right to visit Israel, there is no conflict.


They said shit, and now they are judged based on the shit they say.

You completely skipped the part where Trump advocated for Israel to punish them for speaking their mind.

Why?


Because Trump has that right too. I didn't think that needed to be said.


They don't have the right to say shit, and not have other people judge them on the shit they say.

No, as president he does not have the right to advocate for this. You can judge them all you want. Israel can judge them. Israel can keep them out. Our president can not advocate that they be punished for speaking their minds.


Yes, he can.


If you say something, you have the right to say it, but you dont' have the right to not be judged for it.
 
Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.

They are not anti Semitic, just anti Israel regime (I mean my God they are arabs, so how can they be anti-Semitic?) and they love the USA but like us all, there are some problems with the USA and they voice them, I don't agree with everything they say.
 
Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.
We don’t require that people “like” us in order to visit the US
Maybe we should...what would be wrong with that?....

Because we are not sixth grade girls
That's not an answer RW.....

It seemed more diplomatic than calling them petty, selfish bitches
 
Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.

They are not anti Semitic, just anti Israel regime (I mean my God they are arabs, so how can they be anti-Semitic?) and they love the USA but like us all, there are some problems with the USA and they voice them, I don't agree with everything they say.
I can't agree with everything either BUT they are some smart ladies All 4 of them
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
What century are you living in? Keeping them out of Israel in no way limited their freedom of speech. What it limited was their ability to incite more violence in Israel.

I didn't condemn Israel. But you know that.
I didn't say you did. I responded to your false claim about limiting their freedom of speech.

I said he advocated for punishing them over their freedom of speech. Trump has this issue where he thinks he absolutely has to comment on anything and everything. He often times makes himself look bad by doing that.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.

You have every right to free speech, others have a right to have an opinion on free speech. Israel has a right to bar whoever they want. Personally I want people to hear what they say because it shows the world who they really are.

All well and fine but it doesn't really have much to do with my point.
 
Freedom of speech does not assure freedom from consequences of such speech.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
Horseshit!!!!!
Israel banned them before Trump chimed in.
Now they're using it to attack Israel. They want the US to stop giving aide to the only Democratic ally in the region.

:1peleas:

This is why terrorists like Tlaib and Omar are in Congress. AND DEMOCRATS MADE IT POSSIBLE.!!!!!

I am not discussing whether they are right or wrong.

WASHINGTON – Israeli officials announced Thursday that Reps. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., will be blocked from entering the country ahead of their planned visit this weekend, following a tweet from President Donald Trump urging the country to not allow them to make their trip.

Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib were barred from visiting Israel. Here's what we know

That is what I am discussing.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
No liar, he was advocating for them to be barred because of their racist hated fill content directed toward Israel, using his free speech to do so.

LOL, you disagree with me out of one side of your mouth while agreeing out the other.
 
The issue is not that Israel wasn't going to let them in. What another country does in this regard is their business. The issue was Trump advocating for them to be barred over their rights of free speech.
No liar, he was advocating for them to be barred because of their racist hated fill content directed toward Israel, using his free speech to do so.

LOL, you disagree with me out of one side of your mouth while agreeing out the other.
Classic libstain double speak.
 
Given their long histories of anti semitic and anti American rants, it is likely they would not be allowed in.

They should have never ever ever been allowed in. We need to immediately revert the invasion act and stop letting these idiots in.
 
Not to advocate that American citizens be punished for speaking theirs.


They have a right to speak their opposition to Israel.

Right.


Israel has the right to not allow in people, whom are hostile to them.

Right.


As they do NOT have the Right to visit Israel, there is no conflict.


They said shit, and now they are judged based on the shit they say.

You completely skipped the part where Trump advocated for Israel to punish them for speaking their mind.

Why?


Because Trump has that right too. I didn't think that needed to be said.


They don't have the right to say shit, and not have other people judge them on the shit they say.

No, as president he does not have the right to advocate for this. You can judge them all you want. Israel can judge them. Israel can keep them out. Our president can not advocate that they be punished for speaking their minds.


Yes, he can.


If you say something, you have the right to say it, but you dont' have the right to not be judged for it.

If Trump simply said "I disagree with their positions and here is why" I would not be saying what I am saying. That is not what he did. He advocated that they be punished for what they said.
 

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