What if Eve never ate the apple? How would we tell a Transgender from a male or Female?

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After all we would still be walking around naked...



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After all we would still be walking around naked...



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If Eve never ate the apple, they would have had no children, as I understand it.

we wouldn't exist.
 

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Why do people guess it was an apple?
One would assume it wasnt an apple because god told them they could eat any fruit that had seeds in it.
 

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Why do people guess it was an apple?
One would assume it wasnt an apple because god told them they could eat any fruit that had seeds in it.
And by extension maybe "god" told no one anything at all and this is your creation myth.
 
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If Eve never ate the apple, they would have had no children, as I understand it.

we wouldn't exist.
Wait I missed that part in the bible.

So all the animals they named no offspring either?

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It's really hard to name everything properly when it all gets "made" in 6 days ya know.

A day in the book of genesis is not what you seem to think it means
 
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Why do people guess it was an apple?
One would assume it wasnt an apple because god told them they could eat any fruit that had seeds in it.
And by extension maybe "god" told no one anything at all and this is your creation myth.

How do I know your not a myth? How do you know your real?

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After all we would still be walking around naked...



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"Transgender" does not exist. One is either male or female from birth onward to death. Any other belief on the matter stands outside of tens of thousands of years of human biological fact and represents surrender to ideological mania. We require no religious teachings at all to understand this.
 

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"Transgender" does not exist. One is either male or female from birth onward to death. Any other belief on the matter stands outside of tens of thousands of years of human biological fact and represents surrender to ideological mania. We require no religious teachings at all to understand this.
No one ever needed or needs your belief to exist. Ya just ain't all that, that anyone need take heed.
 

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If Eve never ate the apple, they would have had no children, as I understand it.
The knowledge of good and evil had nothing to do with having children, Will.
We aren't given the timeline in this case. Adam and Eve could have been in the Garden for years , and had a dozen children before Eve caved to temptation. We just don't have that info.

Just like the effect God's physical presence had on Moses, Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the evening, and were covered in the same "glow" <aura that Moses had after being in such close proximity to God:

Exodus 34:29 As Moses descended from Mount Sinai--with the two tablets of the testimony in his hands as he descended the mountain--he did not realize that the skin of his face shone as a result of his speaking with the LORD.
It was that aura that left Eve, and exposed her actual body. Adam knew as soon as he saw her what she had done. Adam ate in a gesture to remain with his wife and lost his too. And God forgave them and covered them in animal's blood, to temporarily cover their sin until Christ's blood covered them permanently. Even though they had to bear the consequences of their actions, they were forgiven and covered immediately.



When we cover ourselves in the blood of Christ, God doesn't see our sins, He sees the aura of His Son. That was what was exchanged at the cross. Christ looked like us on the cross, and now look like a sin free Christ in God's eyes. That is the gift of the pure, sin free blood of Jesus Christ.
 
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If Eve never ate the apple, they would have had no children, as I understand it.
The knowledge of good and evil had nothing to do with having children, Will.
We aren't given the timeline in this case. They could have been in the Garden for years , and had a dozen children before Eve caved to temptation. We just don't have that info.

Just like the effect God's physical presence had on Moses, Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the evening, and were covered in the same "glow" <aura that Moses had after being in such close proximity to God. It was the aura that left Eve, and exposed her actual body. Adam knew as soon as he saw her what she had done. Adam ate in a gesture to remain with his wife. And God forgave them and covered them in animal's blood, to temporarily cover their sin until Christ's blood covered them permanently, even though they had to bear the consequences of their actions. When a human covers himself in the blood of Christ, God doesn't see our sins, He sees the aura of His Son. That was what was exchanged at the cross. We now look like a sin free Christ in God's eyes.


Exodus 34:29 As Moses descended from Mount Sinai--with the two tablets of the testimony in his hands as he descended the mountain--he did not realize that the skin of his face shone as a result of his speaking with the LORD.
Perhaps.... but what happened to those children. They did not necessarily break their relationship with God by sinning like Adam and Eve did. Would those children be cast from the Garden of Eden had they not sinned like Adam and Eve?
 

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Adam willingly gave up the deed to Eden to stay with his wife. And the sins of the father are visited on the son. That is not a rule God made so He could punish children. That rule is the result of sin. As in all cases, the actions of parents effect the whole family.
What we know of the incident, is that God went with them and sacrificing was introduced.
That childbirth would, from then on, be painful, indicates that in the Garden it was not. What children were born in Eden is speculation on our part. We are not given that information.
 
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