What I think about the situation

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It is probably necessary, after all, to formulate what I think about the situation. So as not to mislead people.

1. I am a pacifist. I believe that war is the worst thing that can happen to people, nature and culture.
But I'm not such a naive hippie to think that at least one war can be stopped by putting flowers in the muzzles of guns. The root of all wars without exception is the exploitation of workers and until it is finished, there will be wars. Therefore, the best fight for peace is Red agitation.

2. Pacifism is the understanding that it is impossible to bomb anyone at all. Neither black, nor yellow, nor white, nor even purple speckled. If you think that Kiev is by no means impossible to bomb, but Donetsk is a little bit possible, you are not a pacifist, you are a real fascist.
Therefore, I have never supported and will not support "stopthewar!" crowds. Precisely because they are too selective.

3. I am a communist. I will not dream of challenging the correctness of Lenin and Marx even in a terrible dream.
"Proletarians of all countries, unite!" - the wisest and most saving motto in the world.
But, forgive my cynicism, dead proletarians cannot unite. None of the mentally and morally healthy people wanted war. It was imposed on us. And if we want to see the Motherland free from the shackles of capitalism, free and prosperous, first of all it must be preserved. Save human lives, preserve common sense and humanity.
There is cannot be anything good in war. This is a catastrophe, that has happened to all of us through the fault of the world oligarchies, who have become mad from impunity. They are our common enemy, and we have all become hostages of the situation. This is important to understand.

4. People have indigenous, primordial ideas about bad and good, honest and dishonest, worthy and unworthy. Let the liberals agitate as much as they like, but most normal people have courage and perseverance that arouse respect, and their love for the Motherland is inextricably linked with their willingness to defend it, if necessary, with weapons in their hands.
You can't take that out of people. Yes, and these holy feelings and concepts are used for their nefarious purposes by capitalists (And they themselves have only one "homeland" - their money purse). But to believe that people deliberately go to war "for the oligarch's yacht" is the same as to believe that man take money with him for a walk on purpose in order to be robbed.
Criminals generally do not usually ask the victim if he wants to be attacked by them. And capitalists don't care if people want to be exploited by them.
They FORCE them. Therefore, I do not consider the opinion that ordinary soldiers and front-line officers, as well as civilians, who sincerely support the army of their native country, are responsible for the imperialist essence of the conflict to be correct.

In general, a person can only be responsible for what he can personally control. But if a particular person in his own, if I may say so, war site, sold his conscience, did not remain a human - yes, he is a criminal. And it should be treated accordingly.

Therefore, I will never say a single bad word about russian soldiers, who are just doing their duty. Despite my pacifism. Despite the fact that deep down I really love Ukraine, which for me personally was, is and will be the country of Oleg Koshevoy and Vladimir Pravik, and not Bandera and Shukhevichi. The latter are just scum, and scum has no nationality and it is the same everywhere.
I dream that both republics will be freed as soon as possible from capitalist oppression and market dope. But to do this, they must first survive.
Something like that.
If we are covered by a tsunami, we have to swim. Even if you hated swimming all your previous life.
And, alas, no one really knows what will happen tomorrow.
But I would like to think, that there is still be a new October Revolution.
 
It is probably necessary, after all, to formulate what I think about the situation. So as not to mislead people.

1. I am a pacifist. I believe that war is the worst thing that can happen to people, nature and culture.
But I'm not such a naive hippie to think that at least one war can be stopped by putting flowers in the muzzles of guns. The root of all wars without exception is the exploitation of workers and until it is finished, there will be wars. Therefore, the best fight for peace is Red agitation.

2. Pacifism is the understanding that it is impossible to bomb anyone at all. Neither black, nor yellow, nor white, nor even purple speckled. If you think that Kiev is by no means impossible to bomb, but Donetsk is a little bit possible, you are not a pacifist, you are a real fascist.
Therefore, I have never supported and will not support "stopthewar!" crowds. Precisely because they are too selective.

3. I am a communist. I will not dream of challenging the correctness of Lenin and Marx even in a terrible dream.
"Proletarians of all countries, unite!" - the wisest and most saving motto in the world.
But, forgive my cynicism, dead proletarians cannot unite. None of the mentally and morally healthy people wanted war. It was imposed on us. And if we want to see the Motherland free from the shackles of capitalism, free and prosperous, first of all it must be preserved. Save human lives, preserve common sense and humanity.
There is cannot be anything good in war. This is a catastrophe, that has happened to all of us through the fault of the world oligarchies, who have become mad from impunity. They are our common enemy, and we have all become hostages of the situation. This is important to understand.

4. People have indigenous, primordial ideas about bad and good, honest and dishonest, worthy and unworthy. Let the liberals agitate as much as they like, but most normal people have courage and perseverance that arouse respect, and their love for the Motherland is inextricably linked with their willingness to defend it, if necessary, with weapons in their hands.
You can't take that out of people. Yes, and these holy feelings and concepts are used for their nefarious purposes by capitalists (And they themselves have only one "homeland" - their money purse). But to believe that people deliberately go to war "for the oligarch's yacht" is the same as to believe that man take money with him for a walk on purpose in order to be robbed.
Criminals generally do not usually ask the victim if he wants to be attacked by them. And capitalists don't care if people want to be exploited by them.
They FORCE them. Therefore, I do not consider the opinion that ordinary soldiers and front-line officers, as well as civilians, who sincerely support the army of their native country, are responsible for the imperialist essence of the conflict to be correct.

In general, a person can only be responsible for what he can personally control. But if a particular person in his own, if I may say so, war site, sold his conscience, did not remain a human - yes, he is a criminal. And it should be treated accordingly.

Therefore, I will never say a single bad word about russian soldiers, who are just doing their duty. Despite my pacifism. Despite the fact that deep down I really love Ukraine, which for me personally was, is and will be the country of Oleg Koshevoy and Vladimir Pravik, and not Bandera and Shukhevichi. The latter are just scum, and scum has no nationality and it is the same everywhere.
I dream that both republics will be freed as soon as possible from capitalist oppression and market dope. But to do this, they must first survive.
Something like that.
If we are covered by a tsunami, we have to swim. Even if you hated swimming all your previous life.
And, alas, no one really knows what will happen tomorrow.
But I would like to think, that there is still be a new October Revolution.

Based on what you wrote above, you are neither a pacifist nor a communist. You are a Russian nationalist, qualitatively no different than the German nationalists that followed Hitler.

You only claim to be a semi-pacifist and a communist so that you can fool yourself into believing that you are not a bad person.

You claim to honor Marx and Lenin, but while Marx was a great philosopher and economist, Lenin was a fascist that used the ideas of communism to camouflage his tyranny. Stalin was the same. They both perverted the idea of communism and all but destroyed it. They turned communism into mass slavery and imprisoned or executed anyone that dared challenge them in any way.

Marx believed that capitalist investment and market competition were vital to the economic health of the world. The United States in more Marxist than the Soviet Union or Russia has ever been (though in my opinion, not Marxist enough). The realities of economics dictate that an economy - and therefore the people living in that economy - can only thrive with capitalist investment and market competition. But as Marx so clearly pointed out, Capitalism alone will degenerate into mass slavery for the majority of the people.

Only a compromise between Capitalism and communism works to create a fair economy, and give the people the freedom to thrive. This is only realized in a highly regulated, and partially socialized economy. Liberals and Democratic-Socialists are the people that have the only real solution for humanity.

Your affinity for your 'Motherland' is based on primitivism. You are loyal to your tribe, and to whatever land you happen to live on. It is a holdover from the days when royalty owned all the land, and the land owned the peasants that lived on it. That loyalty to the motherland makes you just another mindless nationalist, like all the other mindless nationalists all over the world.

I'm a patriotic American, but I'm not an American nationalist. My patriotism is based on the philosophies that America was founded upon, not on any land, or government or people. Anyone who believes in America's founding principles is an American regardless of where they were born, or live, or what citizenship they have. Likewise, anyone that does not believe in America's founding principles is not an American regardless of where they were born, or live, or what citizenship they have.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine is the worst form of imperialism, and the greatest crime committed since WWII. It is based only on Russian nationalism, and on the false idea that Russia is a great super-power that deserves to be an empire. Russia and the Soviet Union have NEVER been great super-powers. Great super-powers are based on economic and commerce, not military conquest. Great super-powers contribute to the advancement of humanity, not its enslavement.

Russia has a tiny economy. Russia has made no significant contributions to humanity. Its only claim to being a super-power is that it has nuclear weapons and lots and lots of tanks. The latter of which has been proven obsolete, and the former is effectively useless.

I in some ways do feel sorry for the Russian soldiers in Ukraine. I'm sure that very few of them wanted to go to war. They are being sent to the slaughter. Without the massive Russian tank force, unable to control they skies, and facing superior NATO military technology, they're nothing but cattle being sent to the slaughter. They are being sacrificed for some insane dictator's vision of the revival of the obsolete Russian Empire.

Putin doesn't care about Russia or Russians, much less the rest of humanity. He is a sick individual that thinks that he has some right to enslave the people of the world to boost his ego. He doesn't care how many people suffer and die for his ego. He couldn't live knowing that he was the leader of a nation that was not a super-power. He hated Russia for what Russia truly is and couldn't live with Russia just being Russia.
 
You claim to honor Marx and Lenin, but while Marx was a great philosopher and economist, Lenin was a fascist that used the ideas of communism to camouflage his tyranny. Stalin was the same.

Marx believed that capitalist investment and market competition were vital to the economic health of the world. The United States in more Marxist than the Soviet Union or Russia has ever been (though in my opinion, not Marxist enough).

Only a compromise between Capitalism and communism works to create a fair economy, and give the people the freedom to thrive.

I'm a patriotic American, but I'm not an American nationalist. My patriotism is based on the philosophies that America was founded upon, not on any land, or government or people.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine is the worst form of imperialism, and the greatest crime committed since WWII.

Russia has a tiny economy. Russia has made no significant contributions to humanity.
It's good that you're , as you say, an american. This means that you will not understand all the nonsense written by you and will live in happy ignorance. Maybe.
 
It's good that you're , as you say, an american. This means that you will not understand all the nonsense written by you and will live in happy ignorance. Maybe.
So you have nothing intelligent that contradicts anything that I wrote. How pitiful!

In the thousands of years that Russia has exited, it has made no contributions to humanity (except for Tchaikovsky).

America has been, in it's short 250 years, the greatest nation in the history of mankind.
 
Based on what you wrote above, you are neither a pacifist nor a communist. You are a Russian nationalist, qualitatively no different than the German nationalists that followed Hitler.

What's wrong with being a Russian Nationalist.
Anyone allowed to be nationalist, Ukrainian, Jews, Americans, Frenchmen, but not Russians?
Why?
 
You are a Russian nationalist, qualitatively no different than the German nationalists that followed Hitler.
+1, you are 100% right , he is a typical mongol pig - dog


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Why don't you call the russians the jew-mongols, a term that the german nazis liked to use? Don't be shy, you're already there.

You're such a dumbass!

I have nothing against Russians or Jews. Why do you think that calling Russians Jews is an insult?

I have something strongly against nationalists of any country, even Americans. Especially those who use their nationalism to justify invading other countries.

I think that the vast majority of the people in this world think that it's the Russian government that is behaving like Nazis.

It's kind of weird that you keep calling everyone else Nazis, while its YOU that is supporting the unjustifiable invasion of Ukraine.
 
I think that the vast majority of the people in this world think that it's the Russian government that is behaving like Nazis.
No, they not. China, India, arab world and you can add here Africa and most, if not all Latin America, don't think so.
 
No, they not. China, India, arab world and you can add here Africa and most, if not all Latin America, don't think so.

You've only named a list of countries that don't care what happens between Russia & Ukraine, nor did they care what German Nazis did back in the 1930s & 1940s.

So, I'll rephrase:

The vast majority of the people in this world, who are concerned with the war in Ukraine, think that it's the Russian government that is behaving like Nazis.

Is that better?
 
It is probably necessary, after all, to formulate what I think about the situation. So as not to mislead people.

1. I am a pacifist. I believe that war is the worst thing that can happen to people, nature and culture.
But I'm not such a naive hippie to think that at least one war can be stopped by putting flowers in the muzzles of guns. The root of all wars without exception is the exploitation of workers and until it is finished, there will be wars. Therefore, the best fight for peace is Red agitation.

2. Pacifism is the understanding that it is impossible to bomb anyone at all. Neither black, nor yellow, nor white, nor even purple speckled. If you think that Kiev is by no means impossible to bomb, but Donetsk is a little bit possible, you are not a pacifist, you are a real fascist.
Therefore, I have never supported and will not support "stopthewar!" crowds. Precisely because they are too selective.

3. I am a communist. I will not dream of challenging the correctness of Lenin and Marx even in a terrible dream.
"Proletarians of all countries, unite!" - the wisest and most saving motto in the world.
But, forgive my cynicism, dead proletarians cannot unite. None of the mentally and morally healthy people wanted war. It was imposed on us. And if we want to see the Motherland free from the shackles of capitalism, free and prosperous, first of all it must be preserved. Save human lives, preserve common sense and humanity.
There is cannot be anything good in war. This is a catastrophe, that has happened to all of us through the fault of the world oligarchies, who have become mad from impunity. They are our common enemy, and we have all become hostages of the situation. This is important to understand.

4. People have indigenous, primordial ideas about bad and good, honest and dishonest, worthy and unworthy. Let the liberals agitate as much as they like, but most normal people have courage and perseverance that arouse respect, and their love for the Motherland is inextricably linked with their willingness to defend it, if necessary, with weapons in their hands.
You can't take that out of people. Yes, and these holy feelings and concepts are used for their nefarious purposes by capitalists (And they themselves have only one "homeland" - their money purse). But to believe that people deliberately go to war "for the oligarch's yacht" is the same as to believe that man take money with him for a walk on purpose in order to be robbed.
Criminals generally do not usually ask the victim if he wants to be attacked by them. And capitalists don't care if people want to be exploited by them.
They FORCE them. Therefore, I do not consider the opinion that ordinary soldiers and front-line officers, as well as civilians, who sincerely support the army of their native country, are responsible for the imperialist essence of the conflict to be correct.

In general, a person can only be responsible for what he can personally control. But if a particular person in his own, if I may say so, war site, sold his conscience, did not remain a human - yes, he is a criminal. And it should be treated accordingly.

Therefore, I will never say a single bad word about russian soldiers, who are just doing their duty. Despite my pacifism. Despite the fact that deep down I really love Ukraine, which for me personally was, is and will be the country of Oleg Koshevoy and Vladimir Pravik, and not Bandera and Shukhevichi. The latter are just scum, and scum has no nationality and it is the same everywhere.
I dream that both republics will be freed as soon as possible from capitalist oppression and market dope. But to do this, they must first survive.
Something like that.
If we are covered by a tsunami, we have to swim. Even if you hated swimming all your previous life.
And, alas, no one really knows what will happen tomorrow.
But I would like to think, that there is still be a new October Revolution.

tl;dr
 
US 4 Star General Jack Keane: “For just $66bn we bought ourselves a war with Russia where Americans are not dying, but Ukrainians. That's an excellent deal."

Excellent deal... Till the last ukrainian.
 

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