What Have You Done?

[xotoxi]

...agreed to children born out of wedlock...

Wait.

What do you propose is done about this?

 

[danielpalos]

The classical liberals, the Founders, or, what are called conservatives today....created the nation based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional government.

The liberal founders collectivized the country under a federal government. And they gave congress the power to legislate commerce.

Gads, you're a moron.

And if you're speaking of the founders, that would be classical liberals....not contemporary Liberals, who are more correctly identified as Bolsheviks.

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

Sure, as long as you bake, afterward.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Democrats, Liberals, Progressives......what have you done?

Pulled you nutbag regressives (you like that one Mac? ) into 21th century...and don't worry, we'll repeat the feat for 22nd.

You're far too dumb to recognize this...but by failing to find a single error in the OP that dragged you out from under the rock, you've essentially verified my premise.


Try again?


You.....Democrats, Liberals, Progressives.....and the throngs of misguided acolytes who never think through what you have agreed to empower.




1. In allowing yourselves to have been tricked into giving power the sinister party in the hope of bettering society, you've done the very opposite: you've poisoned the culture, set one man's hand against the next.
You have reduced the culture to a gutter level, agreed to children born out of wedlock, snuffing out the lives of the unborn, fed a welfare culture that embraces drug and alcohol abuse, crime, violence, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup.

And poverty remains at close to exactly what it was when the Democrat 'war on poverty' began....$22 trillion ago.



2. The central truth is that Leftist doctrine eschews religion and morality, and makes no differentiation between humans and every other form of life.
There is no morality. No care or concern for other, or for life. Nor is any required. This is the gift of the Enlightenment, with its view to replacing religion with science, with reason. Here it is today, explained not by Jack London, but by former Obama czar Steven Rattner:
“Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget.”
Opinion | Health Care Reform Beyond Obamacare

To put it more directly:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky




3. Here, the beating heart of the Democrat Party: "In this particular idea of the Enlightenment, the need to change human nature, and to eliminate customs and traditions, to remake established institutions, to do away with all inequalities in order to bring man closer to the state, which was the expression of the general will." Talmon, “Origins of Totalitarian Democracy,” p. 3-7

4. You elected....twice....a rapist and convicted perjurer and low-life who forced this upon the nation:
"Sexual definitions, the researchers hypothesized, were inevitably shaped by President Clinton’s famous “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” statement and the ensuing national discussion.

“Like President Clinton, adolescents and young adults often interpret these words with a degree of latitude, depending on whether they want to maintain an image of being sexually experienced or inexperienced,” the report explained.

“Unlike respondents in the previous samples, our respondents were adolescents after the Clinton-Lewinsky era, which our comparisons of data over time suggest may have been a turning point in conceptualizations of oral-genital contact. The dramatic and sudden shift in attitudes toward oral-genital contact can therefore be termed the Clinton-Lewinsky effect.”
'Clinton-Lewinsky Effect': Study Shows Students' Changing Views Of Oral Sex | HuffPost



Democrats, Liberals, Progressives......what have you done?

 

[danielpalos]

...agreed to children born out of wedlock...

Wait.

What do you propose is done about this?

Solve simple poverty in a market friendly manner and let market participants, "migrate" to a simpler social safety net that may simply, compensate them for Capitalism's, natural rate of unemployment.

 

[Tehon]

The classical liberals, the Founders, or, what are called conservatives today....created the nation based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional government.

The liberal founders collectivized the country under a federal government. And they gave congress the power to legislate commerce.

Gads, you're a moron.

And if you're speaking of the founders, that would be classical liberals....not contemporary Liberals, who are more correctly identified as Bolsheviks.

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...agreed to children born out of wedlock...

Wait.

What do you propose is done about this?

C'mon....you know what I'm going to do: just as I always have: Use my bully pulpit to educate folks like you.


“The strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison, is that they were raised by a single parent”.
C.C. Harper and S.S. McLanahan, “Father Absence and Youth Incarceration”, Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Assoc., San Francisco, CA, 1998

In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997

72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes.
Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323

70% of teen births occur to girls in single mother homes.
David T. Lykken, “Reconstructing Fathers”, American Psychologist 55, 681,681, 2000

70% of drop-outs, and 70% of teen suicides come from single mother homes.
Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents,” IMPRIMIS 26, N0. 6, June 1997

70% of runaways, 70% of juvenile delinquents, and 70% of Child murderers, come from single mother homes.
Richard E. Redding, “It’s Really About Sex”, Duke Univ. Journal of Gender Law and Policy, Jan.1, 2008

“Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous, and more likely to end up divorced.”
Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, No.6, June, 1997

“After controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.”
Progressive Policy Institute, 1990, quoted by David Blankenhorn, “Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem,” New York, Harper Perennial, 1996, p.31

63% of all youth suicides,
70% of all teen pregnancies,
71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers,
80% of all prison inmates, and
90% of all homeless and runaway children came from single mother homes.
Bob Ray Sanders, “Hey Y’all, Let’s Fill The Hall (Of Fame), Ft. Worth Star Telegram, Oct.28,2007
Mona Charen, “More Good News Than Bad?”, Washington Times, Mar.16, 2001 (citing Bill Bennett, “The Index of Leading Cultural Indicators: American society at the end of the 20th Century., New York, Broadway Books, 1994)

Children brought up in single mother homes are:
5 times more likely to commit suicide,
9 times more likely to drop out of high school,
10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances,
14 times more likely to commit rape,
20 times more likely to end up in prison,
32 times more likely to run away from home.
Chuck Eddy, “The Daddy Shady Show”, Village Voice, Dec. 31, 2002

“America has more than twice as many teenage births as other developed nations.”
Isabel V.Sawhill, to House Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Human Resources, June 29, 1999

86% of American teen births are out of wedlock.
Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future of Marriage In America”, Rutgers Univ., The National Marriage Project, 2007

600,000 out of wedlock births in 1979.
Patrick Fagan and William H.G.Fitzgerald, “Why Serious Welfare Reform Must Include Serious Adoption Reform. Heritage Foundation Reports, July 27, 1995

Less than 1% of children born to never married women were placed for adoption from 1989 to 1995.
U.S. DHHS, Child Welfare Information Gateway, “Voluntary Relinquishment For Adoption, Numbers and trends, 2005



My mission is education, and my record is 100% accuracy.

Any questions?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The classical liberals, the Founders, or, what are called conservatives today....created the nation based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional government.

The liberal founders collectivized the country under a federal government. And they gave congress the power to legislate commerce.

Gads, you're a moron.

And if you're speaking of the founders, that would be classical liberals....not contemporary Liberals, who are more correctly identified as Bolsheviks.

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

No, silly.....I felt like revealing your ignorance.

And....I did.

 

[Tehon]

My mission is education, and my record is 100% accuracy.

Any questions?

Why are you wrong so often?

 

[danielpalos]

...agreed to children born out of wedlock...

Wait.

What do you propose is done about this?

C'mon....you know what I'm going to do: just as I always have: Use my bully pulpit to educate folks like you.


“The strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison, is that they were raised by a single parent”.
C.C. Harper and S.S. McLanahan, “Father Absence and Youth Incarceration”, Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Assoc., San Francisco, CA, 1998

In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997

72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes.
Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323

70% of teen births occur to girls in single mother homes.
David T. Lykken, “Reconstructing Fathers”, American Psychologist 55, 681,681, 2000

70% of drop-outs, and 70% of teen suicides come from single mother homes.
Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents,” IMPRIMIS 26, N0. 6, June 1997

70% of runaways, 70% of juvenile delinquents, and 70% of Child murderers, come from single mother homes.
Richard E. Redding, “It’s Really About Sex”, Duke Univ. Journal of Gender Law and Policy, Jan.1, 2008

“Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous, and more likely to end up divorced.”
Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, No.6, June, 1997

“After controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.”
Progressive Policy Institute, 1990, quoted by David Blankenhorn, “Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem,” New York, Harper Perennial, 1996, p.31

63% of all youth suicides,
70% of all teen pregnancies,
71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers,
80% of all prison inmates, and
90% of all homeless and runaway children came from single mother homes.
Bob Ray Sanders, “Hey Y’all, Let’s Fill The Hall (Of Fame), Ft. Worth Star Telegram, Oct.28,2007
Mona Charen, “More Good News Than Bad?”, Washington Times, Mar.16, 2001 (citing Bill Bennett, “The Index of Leading Cultural Indicators: American society at the end of the 20th Century., New York, Broadway Books, 1994)

Children brought up in single mother homes are:
5 times more likely to commit suicide,
9 times more likely to drop out of high school,
10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances,
14 times more likely to commit rape,
20 times more likely to end up in prison,
32 times more likely to run away from home.
Chuck Eddy, “The Daddy Shady Show”, Village Voice, Dec. 31, 2002

“America has more than twice as many teenage births as other developed nations.”
Isabel V.Sawhill, to House Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Human Resources, June 29, 1999

86% of American teen births are out of wedlock.
Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future of Marriage In America”, Rutgers Univ., The National Marriage Project, 2007

600,000 out of wedlock births in 1979.
Patrick Fagan and William H.G.Fitzgerald, “Why Serious Welfare Reform Must Include Serious Adoption Reform. Heritage Foundation Reports, July 27, 1995

Less than 1% of children born to never married women were placed for adoption from 1989 to 1995.
U.S. DHHS, Child Welfare Information Gateway, “Voluntary Relinquishment For Adoption, Numbers and trends, 2005



My mission is education, and my record is 100% accuracy.

Any questions?

How about, "assigning Correctional wives for guys who need correcting and Probational wives for guys who need help with their probity?"

Those two departments already exist.

 

[Tehon]

The liberal founders collectivized the country under a federal government. And they gave congress the power to legislate commerce.

Gads, you're a moron.

And if you're speaking of the founders, that would be classical liberals....not contemporary Liberals, who are more correctly identified as Bolsheviks.

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

No, silly.....I felt like revealing your ignorance.

And....I did.

You proved your own ignorance.

 

[The Irish Ram]

“Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget

^ And there you have it. Single payer, government run, healthcare for a few.
The government wants to save money all of a sudden, by limiting your access to health care. The stupids want someone in a government office some where making your medical decisions for you instead of your doctor.

 

[PoliticalChic]

My mission is education, and my record is 100% accuracy.

Any questions?

Why are you wrong so often?

I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gads, you're a moron.

And if you're speaking of the founders, that would be classical liberals....not contemporary Liberals, who are more correctly identified as Bolsheviks.

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

No, silly.....I felt like revealing your ignorance.

And....I did.

You proved your own ignorance.

Let's leave that up to the readers of our individual posts....'kay?

 

[PoliticalChic]

“Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget

^ And there you have it. Single payer, government run, healthcare for a few.
The government wants to save money all of a sudden, by limiting your access to health care. The stupids want someone in a government office some where making your medical decisions for you instead of your doctor.

Democrats....balance the budget via the death of the elderly....

a)Democrat Tom Daschle, original nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department, and says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs


b) Democrat Governor Dick Lamm once created a firestorm in Colorado (a few years after leaving the Governor’s office) when he said: “the elderly have a duty to die.”


c) A key administration figure committed to cost cutting is Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a health policy advisor in the Office of Management and Budget and brother of Rahm Emanuel, the president's chief of staff wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their own patient and consider social justice. They should think about whether the money being spent on their patient could be better spent elsewhere.
Defend Your Health
Downgrading American Medical Care


An astounding reversal of the view of the religious Founders of the nation.
...and the result of FDR's invitation to Marxists.

 

[Tehon]

Your problem is that you fail to correctly identify what is meant by the term "liberty".

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

No, silly.....I felt like revealing your ignorance.

And....I did.

You proved your own ignorance.

Let's leave that up to the readers of our individual posts....'kay?

I fully understand your uneasiness with entertaining a discussion on this subject.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's check:

You just felt like further justifying my assertion I guess.

No, silly.....I felt like revealing your ignorance.

And....I did.

You proved your own ignorance.

Let's leave that up to the readers of our individual posts....'kay?

I fully understand your uneasiness with entertaining a discussion on this subject.

I've put you in your place...what...two...three time.

Why are you back, you masochist?

 

[Tehon]

Why are you back, you masochist?

Obviously you haven't put me in my place.
Now answer this direct question.
What is liberty, in the context of the US constitution?

 

[rightwinger]

Thank God for liberals

If not for liberals....we'd still be living in caves

 

[rightwinger]

What did we do?

We created this country and our constitution.

No, you did not. Those men were liberal by classic definition. You and your kind are not.

You started a Civil War, and are attempting to start another. You have been anathema to this country for most of its history.

No such thing as "classical liberals". They were just liberals from a long time ago but still the most liberal minds of their era

 

[rightwinger]

All the great initiatives of a liberal society come from a liberal mind