What have the Zionists done?

[Roudy]

Yes, I hate Jews and am a Nazi. God, you're brilliant Roudy.

So tell the class why I site Jews for Justice as a source of my opinions? Dipshit.

Because they repeat IslamoNazi propaganda. Hitler had some Jews fooled as well.

 

[Lipush]

Take off the Zion blinders and focus. The only one in this conversation claiming the conflict is one-sided, is you.

I started the thread because all I ever hear is about the awful Arabs. It's what I was taught and what I heard daily from American media. There is blame all around, so why don't you offer up your thoughts on Israel's part.

The insanity that the turmoil is all about "Jew haters" has to stop at some point. It's laughable, were it not so disgustingly dishonest.

Lets see now 99% of the inhabitants are the arab muslims who have it as a direct command from their god to KILL THE JEWS. This they have practised for over 1400 and still have not managed with odds of 100 to 1 to eliminate the Jews. The Jews have been brutalised and violated by the muslims right up until they declared independence in 1948, then they fought back against the violence and atrocities. To you this is the Jews attacking the muslims and brutalising them, when in fact they have treated them fairly and with decency.

The insanity that the Jews are the cause of the problem will stop eventually when the muslims start accepting responsibility for their actions

Until recently, since Zionism, the Jews were treated better by the Muslims than by adherents of any other religion. Certainly better than they were treated by Christians.

That's a wishful thinking.

Muslims and Christians both has the same blaim when it comes to treat Jews as subhumans.

Thousands were expelled from the Arab lands in the past century without their money, property or respect.

When Jews live today in the Mid-East, they're treated as Dhimis, which is worse than the position of any Palestinian in Israel.

So, you're deeply mistaken.

 

[Roudy]

Because they haven't made any contributions to " peace" which is why there will never be a Palestinian State. Let's hear from one Pro Palestinian Kool Aid Drinker what proposals Abbas put forth that Israel rejected. It's a fair question.

You children cannot grasp the difference between a person siding with Arabs and a person not siding with Israel. I'm sure you cannot even decipher the meaning of that so allow me to put it bluntly-

Other than the fact that there are people throughout the ME (Jew and Arab) who are stuck in the middle of conflicts to which they are uninvolved in any real sense, I could not care less if the entire region blew up and obliterated every single person there, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion.

I do see now why there will never be peace though.

Most are fanatics that have been conditioned to hate Arabs and blindly support Israel regardless of what murderous enterprises it is up to. The cannot fathom that some of us are neutrals and, like you, have no more empathy for Jews than we have for the Muslims involved in this confrontation. Personally, I do have more empathy for the Christians, but that's because I am a Christian.

Neutral. Ha ha ha. If you're a neutral then i'm Michael Jordan. Ho oh ho.

 

[Roudy]

I'm wondering which world these morons live in that the "fanatics" are the Jews, and not the crazy Muslims running around blowing everybody and everything they can find. Is that planet even in our galaxy? Ha ha ha.

 

[Phoenall]

Why not start by participating here?

Everyone hates the Palestinians and lays all the blame on them already.

With very good reasons, they have been the inspiration for the deaths of thousands world wide at the hands of ISLAMONAZI TERRORISTS. Now can you produce one instance of am Israeli terrorist that has murdered anyone in support of Israel

Awesome. Thanks for continuing the tradition of Jewish deflection.

Still waiting for someone to come forward and accept some of the blame.

For one thing I am not Jewish but Anglican, for another I have seen first hand how the muslims work and have no respect for life. Finally I am still waiting for you to explain exactly what it is that the Jews have done to escalate the problem when the blame lies with the arab muslims.


Now stand up and be counted and detail exactly what you believe the Israelis are doing that is making the problem worse so that I can rip your argument to shreds and feed it to you in little pieces.

 

[Pennywise]

I'm wondering which world these morons live in that the "fanatics" are the Jews, and not the crazy Muslims running around blowing everybody and everything they can find. Is that planet even in our galaxy? Ha ha ha.

People who are insane don't know they are insane. You sound exactly like Arafat used to. Two sides of the same coin.

 

[proudveteran06]

I don't understand this. Finally the Palestinian supporters are given a golden opportunity to educate us to Palestinian contributions to peace, mankind & civilization & not a single one has been listed. Why have the Palestinian supporters just disappeared on this important issue?

Because they haven't made any contributions to " peace" which is why there will never be a Palestinian State. Let's hear from one Pro Palestinian Kool Aid Drinker what proposals Abbas put forth that Israel rejected. It's a fair question.

You children cannot grasp the difference between a person siding with Arabs and a person not siding with Israel. I'm sure you cannot even decipher the meaning of that so allow me to put it bluntly-

Other than the fact that there are people throughout the ME (Jew and Arab) who are stuck in the middle of conflicts to which they are uninvolved in any real sense, I could not care less if the entire region blew up and obliterated every single person there, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion.

I do see now why there will never be peace though.

You children cannot grasp the difference between blindly stating Israel does not intend to " negotiate " , implying that the Palestinians are and failing to give examples when challenged. . Nobody cares how you feel about the region. Your last sentence about how you can see how there will never be peace? Still won't tell us what " contributions" the Palestinians have made because there are none.

BTW, you care, you liar . Otherwise you wouldn't have started the post.

 

[Pennywise]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

 

[Phoenall]

Until recently, since Zionism, the Jews were treated better by the Muslims than by adherents of any other religion. Certainly better than they were treated by Christians.

Not according to the Pact of Omar, Jewish historians, Islamic boasts and all the other evidence around. Try reading the Koran and hadiths that command the muslims to KILLTHE JEWS, then look up the history of BLOOD LIBEL

Blood Libel was a Christian accusation:

"Toaff's most recent book, Pasque di sangue. Ebrei d'Europa e omicidi rituali ("Passovers of Blood: The Jews of Europe and Ritual Murders"), was published in February 2007. The book analyzes the cultural and historical background to a notorious 1475 murder trial in Italy. A group of Jews were accused of murdering a young boy, later known as Simon of Trent, and using his blood for Passover rites."

Ariel Toaff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

STOP LYING as the evidence shows that it goes back to the time of the Greeks who made the first BLOOD LIBEL. Many BLOOD LIBELS were spread in the 7th & 8th C by the muslims , starting with the one thought up by Mohamed in regards to the Jewish tribe in Medina that refused to fall down and worship him as god.

 

[Phoenall]

Yes, I hate Jews and am a Nazi. God, you're brilliant Roudy.

So tell the class why I site Jews for Justice as a source of my opinions? Dipshit.

Because they write what you want to hear, they are a left wing group based in the UK. So hardly a credible group to use as evidence of any wrong doing by the Israeli's

 

[Phoenall]

Because they haven't made any contributions to " peace" which is why there will never be a Palestinian State. Let's hear from one Pro Palestinian Kool Aid Drinker what proposals Abbas put forth that Israel rejected. It's a fair question.

You children cannot grasp the difference between a person siding with Arabs and a person not siding with Israel. I'm sure you cannot even decipher the meaning of that so allow me to put it bluntly-

Other than the fact that there are people throughout the ME (Jew and Arab) who are stuck in the middle of conflicts to which they are uninvolved in any real sense, I could not care less if the entire region blew up and obliterated every single person there, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion.

I do see now why there will never be peace though.

Most are fanatics that have been conditioned to hate Arabs and blindly support Israel regardless of what murderous enterprises it is up to. The cannot fathom that some of us are neutrals and, like you, have no more empathy for Jews than we have for the Muslims involved in this confrontation. Personally, I do have more empathy for the Christians, but that's because I am a Christian.

You are no more neutral than ahmedinajan was in regards to Israel and the Jews. When was the last time you condemned the Palestinians for their illegal attacks on Jews ? When did you show exactly what the Palestinians had offered as a starting point for negotiations towards a Just peace

 

[Phoenall]

You children cannot grasp the difference between a person siding with Arabs and a person not siding with Israel. I'm sure you cannot even decipher the meaning of that so allow me to put it bluntly-

Other than the fact that there are people throughout the ME (Jew and Arab) who are stuck in the middle of conflicts to which they are uninvolved in any real sense, I could not care less if the entire region blew up and obliterated every single person there, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion.

I do see now why there will never be peace though.

i hope you don't think that "clarification" makes you look any less of an idiot

Actually your response shows that you are a moron. You accuse someone of taking a side, and when they explain that they don't, you still respond with stupidity.

Then prove you are not taking sides by detailing what the Israeli's have done to escalate the current problem. Then detail what the Palestinians have done to escalate the problem. No more deflections or hedging come out with the details so we can show you were you are wrong on all points.

 

[Phoenall]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

Then stand up and be counted and tell the board just what the Israeli's are doing to escalate the problems. Or are you that much of a coward you wont spell out what you really think

 

[Pennywise]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

Then stand up and be counted and tell the board just what the Israeli's are doing to escalate the problems. Or are you that much of a coward you wont spell out what you really think

That is not the purpose of my thread. I don't have a side in this, still I cannot help but find it rather unsettling that supporters of Israel (be they Jews or Anglicans or Martians) believe the fault for continued conflict resides only on the other side.

So I am giving the Zionists the chance to do a little soul searching. As far as I'm concerned the entire Middle East can go up in flames. I'm tired of the bullshit over there determining American foreign policy.

 

[proudveteran06]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

So, In the " Palestinians are willing to negotiate but Israel has turned down every offer with no counter offer " Camp 100 Percent.

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned ( I am really not)

 

[proudveteran06]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

Then stand up and be counted and tell the board just what the Israeli's are doing to escalate the problems. Or are you that much of a coward you wont spell out what you really think

That is not the purpose of my thread. I don't have a side in this, still I cannot help but find it rather unsettling that supporters of Israel (be they Jews or Anglicans or Martians) believe the fault for continued conflict resides only on the other side.

So I am giving the Zionists the chance to do a little soul searching. As far as I'm concerned the entire Middle East can go up in flames. I'm tired of the bullshit over there determining American foreign policy.

He doesn't answer because he can't. Yet he posted he wanted to have a serious discussion about it?

 

[Coyote]

Thread's been cleaned of off-topic flaming kiddos - let's get back to discussing the topic (the relative contributions of each side to the conflict)...room is available in the Flame Zone for special discussions.

"Zone 2": Political Forum / Israel and Palestine Forum / Race Relations/Racism Forum / Religion & Ethics Forum: Baiting and polarizing OP's (Opening Posts), and thread titles risk the thread either being moved or trashed. Keep it relevant, choose wisely. Each post must contain content relevant to the thread subject, in addition to any flame. No trolling. No hit and run flames. No hijacking or derailing threads.

 

[Phoenall]

So, in the "Israel has no fault" camp- 100%

The introspection is really deep. I'm stunned, stunned I say.

Then stand up and be counted and tell the board just what the Israeli's are doing to escalate the problems. Or are you that much of a coward you wont spell out what you really think

That is not the purpose of my thread. I don't have a side in this, still I cannot help but find it rather unsettling that supporters of Israel (be they Jews or Anglicans or Martians) believe the fault for continued conflict resides only on the other side.

So I am giving the Zionists the chance to do a little soul searching. As far as I'm concerned the entire Middle East can go up in flames. I'm tired of the bullshit over there determining American foreign policy.

We are giving you the chance to get of your high horse and give you version of what is happening. All I have seen up to now is you putting all the blame on the Israelis for the problems, and not once looking at what the Palestinians are doing. Remember that it was the arab muslims that started the problem in the first place, and the Jews have been defending themselves ever since

 

[Pennywise]

Then stand up and be counted and tell the board just what the Israeli's are doing to escalate the problems. Or are you that much of a coward you wont spell out what you really think

That is not the purpose of my thread. I don't have a side in this, still I cannot help but find it rather unsettling that supporters of Israel (be they Jews or Anglicans or Martians) believe the fault for continued conflict resides only on the other side.

So I am giving the Zionists the chance to do a little soul searching. As far as I'm concerned the entire Middle East can go up in flames. I'm tired of the bullshit over there determining American foreign policy.

We are giving you the chance to get of your high horse and give you version of what is happening. All I have seen up to now is you putting all the blame on the Israelis for the problems, and not once looking at what the Palestinians are doing. Remember that it was the arab muslims that started the problem in the first place, and the Jews have been defending themselves ever since

**** you and the other Zion puppets, dipshit. Not once did I proclaim Israel was solely (or even primarily) to blame.

It's pretty telling to me that not a single supporter of Israel can find a single fault with how the Zionist actions have contributed (do you even understand English, moron?) to the problems of the ME.

You people are sociopaths: delusional, self-important mutants, wholly incapable of looking in the mirror.

So once again the count is "Israel holds ZERO blame" - 100%.

You people are worse than American blacks in your group-think. At least they only vote 95% Democrat.

 

[jillian]

The lowest scum on earth are people who blame others for their bullshit in life. Your response is what I hoped wouldn't happen, but of course I expected it.

You are a weak child, only capable of calling names.

Now go get yourself a juice box and ask mommy to put on Sesame Street.

Wrong again. I never blame anyone for anything I am responsible.

But if you didn't focus on bashing Israel so much, you would see that Palestinians are exactly like that: they blame EVERYTHING on other people for their bullshit.

And what part does Israel have in all this mess? Are the Zionist Jews just victims of aggression? Totally innocent of any part in the conflict?

Is that your story?

it doesn't really matter, does it, since you have no interest in assessing the situation legitimately.

*shrug*