Lucy Hamilton
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I think possibly the right approach is just to step out of threads where the opposition seeks only to attack with no real interest in supporting a position. The good thing about USMB is we have lots of threads to choose from so there is no need to waste time on such people. If enough people did that, maybe they would go elsewhere.You have a good point. Never thought of it in that light. I have to admit some of our more colorful members do keep it interesting.I have no idea what caused the 502 Bad Gateway. I'm just going by the comments by flacaltenn.I fail to see how either of what you suggest would solve the 502 Bad Gateway situation that this forum frequently has.
Also on point II what constitutes a personal attack? Some are THAT thin skinned that if for eg. they are called an IDIOT they would go Full On Drama Queen and go screaming they have been PERSONALLY ATTACKED. If someone wants a forum where IDIOT constitutes a personal attack then there are some other forums out there who have that Nannying approach to cater to the thin skinned.
So on point II no thanks, that is not the type of Nannying this forum needs and that would not in ANY form solve the 502 Bad Gateway situation.
I have found by years of experience leading and participating in discussion groups, civility toward other posters or speakers leads to more informative discussion. Some people have little interest in the ideas of the opposition but simple want tell the opposition to STFU, you lying SOB. That's ok with me except that it typically ends intelligence discussion. If you've noticed, there are a number of users who simply issue nothing but personal attacks without every adding anything of interest to the thread. It's not a matter of being thin skinned but simply wanting to participate in an intelligent discussion rather read post after post of personal attacks against other members. I really don't give damn what member A thinks about member B. It's almost always off topic and adds nothing to the thread. Possibly more civility might reduce membership but it might also improve the quality of the discussions.
"I have found by years of experience leading and participating in discussion groups, civility toward other posters or speakers leads to more informative discussion. Some people have little interest in the ideas of the opposition but simple want tell the opposition to STFU, you lying SOB. That's ok with me except that it typically ends intelligence discussion. If you've noticed, there are a number of users who simply issue nothing but personal attacks without every adding anything of interest to the thread. It's not a matter of being thin skinned but simply wanting to participate in an intelligent discussion rather read post after post of personal attacks against other members. I really don't give damn what member A thinks about member B. It's almost always off topic and adds nothing to the thread. Possibly more civility might reduce membership but it might also improve the quality of the discussions."
In general I agree, the problem though is it would reduce the forum to being less entertaining and pretty boring, I have no problem with if someone posts:
"WTF you idiot (and then posts On Topic with regard to whatever the OP topic is about)"
or "STFU moron (and then posts On Topic with regard to whatever the OP topic is about)"
I certainly do not want to read endless Novella type posts after posts where there is not some friction between members, also I add a few members of staff are prone to name calling in their responses.
"Possibly more civility might reduce membership"
Which is the last thing that Forum Foundry want, if membership was reduced then why would Forum Foundry even think USMB was worth continuing? So IF you want to destroy the forum then make it boring, reducing the membership equals end of the forum.
Well yes and also I am 100% in support of Freedom of Speech, I do not go along with this hysterical thing of those who Offend Someones Feelings need to be silenced.
I do not advocate deliberately hurting someone by commenting deliberately nasty things that you KNOW are going to hurt them.
What I do advocate STRONGLY is the Right to Freedom of Expression both in a political and social sense, that EVERYONE should be at least mature enough to TOLERATE opposing opinions on politics and social issues.
I am 100% Anti-Censorship because Censorship INFRINGES on a persons right to Freedom of Expression.
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Yes on this I 100% agree and I myself have been doing this more often than I used to, just abandoning threads that I feel have been hijacked or where everyone is just going around in a circle repeating the same points again and again.