Redfish
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but they can tax us for an imaginary fix to an imaginary problem.
What ever happened to that ridiculous climate change hoax.
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Redfish
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your leftard indoctrination is complete. there is no help for you. you are lost to reality. do not bother to reply to any of my posts. I refuse to waste my time on brain dead idiots.
EMH
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Gravity is certainly part of the answer.
The other part of the answer is that, because of gravity, the forces in the center of a large mass, 500 or so miles in diameter, create enough heat to melt the rock, and that's pretty obvious right now to anyone paying attention. Otherwise Earth would not have any lava/magma...
ReinyDays
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So ... you've politicized your scientific objectivity? ... that's great for stupid people ... please, I don't want you reading my posts, you might learn something ...
EMH is your friend ... kicking chess piece over because you two are LOSERS ...
**** off. I live in Texas. If we ditch them we are all moving in with you. Is that what you want?
DennisPTate
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In my opinion the truth about climate change and how best humanity could at least do something constructive toward at least assisting the climate to be more stable has been hijacked by "Neo-Malthusians" who feel that they are the true Elite, who due to their superior intellect have a RESPONSIBILITY to do what must be done to set in motion DEPOPULATION down to a world population of two to three billion people exactly as was explained by Mr. Bill Gates in his film and lecture "Innovating to zero."
These Neo-Malthusians may be somewhat sincere, but they are certainly willing to lie and deceive and hijack the Climate Change Narrative in favour of their being given pretty much total control over Americans, Canadians and everYbody else on earth through the enforcement of some variation of a CARBON TAX!
I am personally of the belief that if several volcanoes were to erupt under the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet OR below the West Antarctic Ice Sheet then rather a relatively rapid rise in ocean levels could be set in motion.
I am of the belief that a possible Phase 2, 3, 4 or 5 to The Abraham Accords is by far the best way to at least assist the environment to be more stable. Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. said it best:
For the record I have reason to believe that the most well informed of these "Neo -Malthusians" fear that Jews, Christians and Muslims might find some common ground on which they can COOPERATE, and this idea of a step or two or three toward Economic Cooperation and Shalom in the Middle East TERRIFIES THE MOST INFLUENTIAL of these Neo-Malthusians who use DIVISION and something close to Civil War to keep everybody divided so that their Master Plan can be brought to fulfillment.
"Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?
I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.
Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur."
These Neo-Malthusians may be somewhat sincere, but they are certainly willing to lie and deceive and hijack the Climate Change Narrative in favour of their being given pretty much total control over Americans, Canadians and everYbody else on earth through the enforcement of some variation of a CARBON TAX!
I am personally of the belief that if several volcanoes were to erupt under the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet OR below the West Antarctic Ice Sheet then rather a relatively rapid rise in ocean levels could be set in motion.
I am of the belief that a possible Phase 2, 3, 4 or 5 to The Abraham Accords is by far the best way to at least assist the environment to be more stable. Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. said it best:
For the record I have reason to believe that the most well informed of these "Neo -Malthusians" fear that Jews, Christians and Muslims might find some common ground on which they can COOPERATE, and this idea of a step or two or three toward Economic Cooperation and Shalom in the Middle East TERRIFIES THE MOST INFLUENTIAL of these Neo-Malthusians who use DIVISION and something close to Civil War to keep everybody divided so that their Master Plan can be brought to fulfillment.
"Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?
I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.
Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur."
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ReinyDays
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***** flatlander ...
Redfish
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the truth is that the climate of planet earth has always been changing and that humans have never caused it and cannot stop or reverse it. but what we can do, which I never hear from libs, is stop polluting. pollution is bad for humanity, but pollution does not cause climate change.
Redfish
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he religion of climate change, headed up by the prophet algore, is a false fable that was designed to get your money, the prophet appreciates your contributions.
ReinyDays
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[bites knuckle] ...
Some say Antarctica has the largest volcanic field on Earth ... your "several volcanoes" are erupting right this minute ... it's not enough energy to melt that much ice ... too small to measure ...
Latent heat of fusion is also called Enthalpy of fusion - Wikipedia ... it takes an immense amount of energy to melt ice ... one of water's many exotic properties ... volcanoes are powerful, not necessarily energetic ... though related, these two things are different ...
I don't have a high school diploma ... but I do understand high school science ... that shouldn't make me a "superior intellect" ... should it? ...
ReinyDays
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The false narrative was created to steer money into alternate energy start-up companies ... smart people would have invested some of their portfolio money into such ventures ... government subsidies soften the blow when some of these ventures fail ...
I am a Climate Change Denialist of the Third Order ... 1] I agree the globe is warming, 2] I agree mankind contributes to this effect ... however, 3] I believe this is a good thing for both humans and nature ... because the extra carbon dioxide is good for plants, our primary food producers ... with more food, everything is better ... any and all down-sides to this warming is easily and cheaply mitigated ... one guy with one shovel can protect the entire City of Houston, Texas from sea level rise ... a simple three foot berm is all we need ...
Of course higher temperatures are better for life ... why we're warm-blooded ... burn tires ...
DennisPTate
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Thank you for your helpful and accurate comment. You are absolutely correct that apparently Antarctica has more than a hundred volcanoes that could go active any day now.
Here is another one of my worries.....
apparently the top layer of the ice and snow on the Greenland ice Sheet is getting darker and is absorbing more solar energy.......
Back around 2012 or so melted lakes of H2O would form on top of the Greenland Ice Sheet and soon these lakes would disappear and apparently they would go down to the groundrock of Greenland but they would apparently not refreze.... but would largely remain as liquid H2O......
These lakes at the bottom of Greenland were acting as a LUBRICANT in the sense that they were assisting in a quite large increase of icebergs calving and flowing into the North Atlantic!
When ice bergs crack and slide of the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet they would exert pressure on the world's oceans to begin to rise.
Etymology gaslight
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Then people wonder why myself and others say you are the epitome of "anti-science".
Oh, there is clear evidence of there having been multiple ice ages. The oldest some 3 gya, called the Pongola Glaciation. Now how extensive that event is we do not know at all, we can barely even guesstimate at where the cratons were at that time to make up continental placement. But the existence and dating of diamicite in Southern Africa has proven it happened.
Then there is the Huronian Glaciation some 2 gya. Evidence of that was found around Lake Huron in relationship to the "Great Oxygenation Event" that was occurring at the same time.
Then you have one I have brought up many times before, which I for brevity call the entire Cryogenian Age. A period from around 635 to 720 mya where almost the entire planet was covered in ice. The name itself comes from the Greek for "Frozen". This one we actually have a hell of a lot of evidence for, most especially the "Great Unconformity", where roughly a billion years of the geological record globally was simply wiped from existence. This can clearly be seen in the Grand Canyon, where 550 mya rocks are sitting right on top of 1.7 gya rocks. An entire billion years scrubbed away by glacial activity.
And there multiple other "Ice Ages" between then and the Late Cenozoic Ice Age, which we are actually still in today. That started some 34 mya with the Late Paleogene Glaciation, and we are some 3.5 my into the current Quaternary Glaciation.
And of that one we can clearly see there have been multiple "Ice Ages". One simply has to look at the deposits of the deposits left behind by three of them in North America. The Wisconsin, which technically we are still in the end stages of. And the Kansanan and Nebraskan, which also left behind clear geological proof.
"No evidence" indeed. There is a ton of evidence of multiple ice ages. You are over 100 years out of date, because the fact there have been multiple ice ages has been accepted by geologists for over a century now. The only issue is that most of the evidence for them has been erased, but we can clearly see from the evidence left behind that extended beyond the LGM that there have been multiple events.
Hell, in the chart above you can even see indirect evidence of another glaciation. It is no longer present on the surface, and it likely closely matched the Kansanan Glaciation. But notice the outflow that is pointed out at the mouth of the Mississippi of existence of MDT (Mean Dynamic Topography), showing extensive evidence of massive sediment deposits left behnd between 640-700 kya. And notice, that is a time that predates the Kansanan Glaciation, by the right amount of time to have been a full glacial cycle prior.
So in the above map, you can clearly see the evidence of 3 different Ice Ages. Both directly on the surface, and from marine sediments. For many ice ages, the only evidence left is either marine sediment or Antarctic Ice Cores because those events were the same size as the Wisconsin Glaciation or smaller, so the evidence was erased. But there is still clear evidence of multiple ice ages, dating back over a million years on the surface.
Then people wonder why myself and others say you are the epitome of "anti-science".
Oh, there is clear evidence of there having been multiple ice ages. The oldest some 3 gya, called the Pongola Glaciation. Now how extensive that event is we do not know at all, we can barely even guesstimate at where the cratons were at that time to make up continental placement. But the existence and dating of diamicite in Southern Africa has proven it happened.
Then there is the Huronian Glaciation some 2 gya. Evidence of that was found around Lake Huron in relationship to the "Great Oxygenation Event" that was occurring at the same time.
Then you have one I have brought up many times before, which I for brevity call the entire Cryogenian Age. A period from around 635 to 720 mya where almost the entire planet was covered in ice. The name itself comes from the Greek for "Frozen". This one we actually have a hell of a lot of evidence for, most especially the "Great Unconformity", where roughly a billion years of the geological record globally was simply wiped from existence. This can clearly be seen in the Grand Canyon, where 550 mya rocks are sitting right on top of 1.7 gya rocks. An entire billion years scrubbed away by glacial activity.
And there multiple other "Ice Ages" between then and the Late Cenozoic Ice Age, which we are actually still in today. That started some 34 mya with the Late Paleogene Glaciation, and we are some 3.5 my into the current Quaternary Glaciation.
And of that one we can clearly see there have been multiple "Ice Ages". One simply has to look at the deposits of the deposits left behind by three of them in North America. The Wisconsin, which technically we are still in the end stages of. And the Kansanan and Nebraskan, which also left behind clear geological proof.
"No evidence" indeed. There is a ton of evidence of multiple ice ages. You are over 100 years out of date, because the fact there have been multiple ice ages has been accepted by geologists for over a century now. The only issue is that most of the evidence for them has been erased, but we can clearly see from the evidence left behind that extended beyond the LGM that there have been multiple events.
Hell, in the chart above you can even see indirect evidence of another glaciation. It is no longer present on the surface, and it likely closely matched the Kansanan Glaciation. But notice the outflow that is pointed out at the mouth of the Mississippi of existence of MDT (Mean Dynamic Topography), showing extensive evidence of massive sediment deposits left behnd between 640-700 kya. And notice, that is a time that predates the Kansanan Glaciation, by the right amount of time to have been a full glacial cycle prior.
So in the above map, you can clearly see the evidence of 3 different Ice Ages. Both directly on the surface, and from marine sediments. For many ice ages, the only evidence left is either marine sediment or Antarctic Ice Cores because those events were the same size as the Wisconsin Glaciation or smaller, so the evidence was erased. But there is still clear evidence of multiple ice ages, dating back over a million years on the surface.
In the grand scheme of things
We've had thermometers for just 250 years.
Etymology gaslight
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Not idiocy, opinion opposite yours.
Etymology gaslight
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It's only about the money.
Etymology gaslight
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I think it could still work in North Korea.
Etymology gaslight
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What's the magnetic
entropy vis a vie
earth average temperature
Is it measured in time or BTU's
(Do magnets affect weather ?)
Etymology gaslight
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I love seafood.Just answer the following question:
Are the Ocean Temperatures Warming or NOT?
Are sea Creatures? Crab?
You this is NOT about weather, ONLY an idiot would mention "Weather."
Oops ....... as lemmings to the promise of controlling weather.
which oceans creature are changing location because of Ocean Temperature rises?
Many ocean creatures are changing their geographic range as ocean temperatures rise. In general, species are moving toward the poles or into deeper, cooler water. Here are well-documented examples across different groups:
Fish
- Atlantic cod – shifting northward in the North Atlantic
- Mackerel – expanding into Arctic waters
- Tuna (bluefin, yellowfin) – moving farther north and south than historical ranges
- Salmon – altered migration timing and range, especially in the Pacific
- Lionfish – expanding into new areas as waters warm
Invertebrates
- American lobster – moving north from southern New England toward Canada
- Snow crab – shifting into deeper, colder waters
- Squid – rapidly expanding poleward due to fast life cycles
- Jellyfish – increasing in abundance and range in warmer waters
Marine Mammals
- Whales (humpback, gray, right whales) – changing migration routes and feeding grounds
- Dolphins – appearing in regions previously too cold
- Seals – losing ice-based habitats and shifting distribution
Corals & Reef Species
- Tropical corals – experiencing die-offs in warmer areas, while new reefs form at higher latitudes
- Reef fish – moving with coral habitats or into subtropical zones
Reptiles
- Sea turtles – nesting beaches shifting poleward; sex ratios changing due to warmer sand
Plankton (Foundation of the Food Web)
- Phytoplankton & zooplankton – shifting poleward, affecting entire marine food chains
Why this matters
If you want, I can:
- Disrupts fisheries and coastal economies
- Causes predator–prey mismatches
- Introduces invasive species into new ecosystems
- Alters entire food webs
- Give specific regional examples (e.g., Atlantic vs Pacific)
- Focus on one species in detail
- Explain how fast these shifts are happening
- Connect this to human impacts like fishing or food supply
ReinyDays
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Sounds like you need something to do ... something to address these concerns and help work to correct and/or prevent tragedy ...
Use less energy in your everyday life ... and use money as the measure ... it costs less to walk to the store than it is to warm up the Ford F-150 ... ditch your air conditioner ... don't let children open the refrigerator ... use the money you save to buy PIZZA PIES !!! ...
Seriously, why would anyone worry about the solar energy striking the Greenland ice sheet? ... sunrise there isn't until February ... too little sunlight reaches so far away from the equator ... it won't make any difference to ocean currents ... none at all ...
We multiple our average irradiation values by the cosine of latitude ... and the cosine of 75º is very small ... so on average, the polar regions experience a net loss of heat energy due to convection ...
Etymology gaslight
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Only an idiot mention "weather"Just answer the following question:
Are the Ocean Temperatures Warming or NOT?
Are sea Creatures? Crab?
You this is NOT about weather, ONLY an idiot would mention "Weather."
Oops ....... as lemmings to the promise of controlling weather.
which oceans creature are changing location because of Ocean Temperature rises?
Many ocean creatures are changing their geographic range as ocean temperatures rise. In general, species are moving toward the poles or into deeper, cooler water. Here are well-documented examples across different groups:
- Atlantic cod – shifting northward in the North Atlantic
- Mackerel – expanding into Arctic waters
- Tuna (bluefin, yellowfin) – moving farther north and south than historical ranges
- Salmon – altered migration timing and range, especially in the Pacific
- Lionfish – expanding into new areas as waters warm
- American lobster – moving north from southern New England toward Canada
- Snow crab – shifting into deeper, colder waters
- Squid – rapidly expanding poleward due to fast life cycles
- Jellyfish – increasing in abundance and range in warmer waters
- Whales (humpback, gray, right whales) – changing migration routes and feeding grounds
- Dolphins – appearing in regions previously too cold
- Seals – losing ice-based habitats and shifting distribution
- Tropical corals – experiencing die-offs in warmer areas, while new reefs form at higher latitudes
- Reef fish – moving with coral habitats or into subtropical zones
- Sea turtles – nesting beaches shifting poleward; sex ratios changing due to warmer sand
- Phytoplankton & zooplankton – shifting poleward, affecting entire marine food chains
Why this matters
If you want, I can:
- Disrupts fisheries and coastal economies
- Causes predator–prey mismatches
- Introduces invasive species into new ecosystems
- Alters entire food webs
- Give specific regional examples (e.g., Atlantic vs Pacific)
- Focus on one species in detail
- Explain how fast these shifts are happening
- Connect this to human impacts like fishing or food supply
I'm pretty sure i heard ben franklin say that at the first climate change summit in 1700's france & england...
"Some day poor richard's will become the internet"
Before that is the war on fake news.
You just said climate change doesn't somehow include day to day weather.
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