Zone1 What does The Chosen People actually mean?

[hobelim]

That's exactly what I would expect a religious nutjob would say when confronted with being a religious nutjob.

Pathetic.

But thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me to reveal the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate by so generously demonstrating for all to witness the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that simple and easy to comply with instruction aside showing that the Law of my God remains in effect and in full force and the prince of this world stands condemned.




You claim to believe that Jesus died for you so you wouldn't have to pay the penalty for your own sins, death, yet here you are, an idolator, paying the price for your many shameful sins DEATH a defiled and contaminated state of consciousness that resembles a very deep sleep

This is how Rome has used the power of death to conquer the world, subjugate the nations and fleece people every since 325CE when the antichrist was first unleashed on the world.

I will tell you something. Try to hear. You die every single time you openly and brazenly defy the Law of my God at mass, always dying but never finding peace in death. Whee! Whee!


YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY!

 

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You die every single time you openly and brazenly defy the Law of my God at mass, always dying but never finding peace in death. Whee! Whee!

That's exactly what a religious nutjob would say when attacking a rival religion as religious nutjobs are wont to do.

 

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You claim to believe that Jesus died for you so you wouldn't have to pay the penalty for your own sins, death, yet here you are, an idolator, paying the price for your many shameful sins DEATH a defiled and contaminated state of consciousness that resembles a very deep sleep

Not exactly. Jesus claimed he suffered death for the forgiveness of our sins but that forgiveness is conditional. We will be forgiven for our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

 

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This is how Rome has used the power of death to conquer the world, subjugate the nations and fleece people every since 325CE when the antichrist was first unleashed on the world.

ahhh... so you are one of those people who believe in an epic conspiracy. Do you have any evidence of a conspiracy?

 

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But thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me to reveal the wisdom of my God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate by so generously demonstrating for all to witness the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that simple and easy to comply with instruction aside showing that the Law of my God remains in effect and in full force and the prince of this world stands condemned.

The world has been redeemed through the body and blood of Christ. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. It's not our bodies God is interested in. The flesh is of no avail.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus claimed he suffered death for the forgiveness of our sins ...

never claimed by jesus, a lie madeup by the crucifiers they wrote in their 4th century christian bible.

not an ounce of truth as claimed by the crucifiers for their religion of servitude and denial ... jesus taught liberation theology, self determination as the means through person accomplishment for admission to the everlasting.

desert dwellers lie for their inability and lack of desire to accomplish the goal set by the heavens for personal triumph as though deceiving the heavens will actually accomplish anything than the certainty of their extinction.

 

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never claimed by jesus, a lie madeup by the crucifiers they wrote in their 4th century christian bible. not an ounce of truth as claimed by the crucifiers for their religion of servitude and denial ... jesus taught liberation theology, self determination as the means through person accomplishment for admission to the everlasting. desert dwellers lie for their inability and lack of desire to accomplish the goal set by the heavens for personal triumph as though deceiving the heavens will actually accomplish anything than the certainty of their extinction.

The first Christians, the Apostles and 24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

 

[BreezeWood]

The first Christians, the Apostles and 24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

again, not an ounce of truth ...

not an ounce of truth as claimed by the crucifiers for their religion of servitude and denial ...

have you checked the archives they made to store the sources for their 4th century christian bible they spent 100 years writing ... oh, there is no archive.

- a work of fiction they deliberately misconstrue for their own purposes void of any true heavenly religious meaning.

 

[kjw47]

again, not an ounce of truth ...



have you checked the archives they made to store the sources for their 4th century christian bible they spent 100 years writing ... oh, there is no archive.

- a work of fiction they deliberately misconstrue for their own purposes void of any true heavenly religious meaning.

You live in an illusion. Like this-2Cor 4:4

 

[onefour1]

I have been watching the TV series Chosen and have questions about 1st Century Jewish life and beliefs:
1. What does "the chosen people" actually mean? Was it a special covenant with God that excluded all other people?

Those who are chosen are those who also choose to enter the covenant path to eternal life. Eternal life is having the same life that God himself has. Those who receive the teachings of Jesus Christ and live the covenant path are chosen as candidates to enter the kingdom of heaven. Those who are not willing to follow the teachings of Jesus and refuse to keep his commandments and to seek his forgiveness for the mistakes they make in life are not candidates for the kingdom of heaven if they continue in this pattern of life. However, they too can repent and come to follow the Christ and also become members that are chosen. Baptism into the true church of Jesus Christ is the first step to entering the covenant path. Baptism is a covenant to follow the teachings of Christ and to remember him and his teachings in our walk of life. We do make mistakes and need to take advantage of repentance and the grace of forgiveness of Jesus Christ to get back on the covenant path. The sacrament of the Lord is a renewing of the baptismal covenant to keep his commandments and to always remember the Christ in all that we do. It is the true path to gaining entrance into the kingdom of heaven and becoming like the Christ and our Father in Heaven. A most important principal to understand is that Jesus is Jehovah, the Great I Am, the God of the Old Testament.

After the days of the flood, the world eventually began to become wicked again and mankind sought to gain heaven on their own and built a great tower in Babel to reach heaven. It was then that God confounded mankind's language and scattered them all over the face of the earth. God through certain righteous families began to build up his kingdom of God on the earth. Originally you had to be a member of the lineage of these families but eventually God would take his gospel to all the children of mankind. Today the opportunity to be numbered among the house of Israel and be a covenant member of The Church of Jesus Christ is unto all mankind on the face of the whole earth. If a man or woman accepts the gospel of Jesus Christ, no matter where in the world he/she lives, they can be baptized and become a covenant member of Jesus' Church. God has even allowed that we do genealogy and go back and baptize people who are dead who never accepted the gospel. Those who are dead have the gospel preached unto them and if they receive it the world of spirits who are dead, then the baptisms we perform for the dead are valid and they too become part of the covenant people to God. Eventually all mankind who have come to this earth will have had the opportunity to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and be baptized as covenant person and have the opportunity to be saved in the kingdom of heaven.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1 Corinthians 15:29
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

Jesus organized his faithful dead saints to preach the gospel among the dead and has also organized his faithful living saints to preach the gospel to the living as well as perform baptisms for the dead. His true church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If you have not yet become a covenant follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I invite you to learn of him and his church and challenge you to enter the covenant of baptism with him and become a chosen disciple.

 

[hobelim]

ahhh... so you are one of those people who believe in an epic conspiracy. Do you have any evidence of a conspiracy?

Sure. The bloody history of your Roman Church, which is irrefutable, a scarlet beast that has mated with many foul and loathsome creatures worldwide and spawned over 30,000 hideous blasphemous and idolatrous denominations, the secret Babylonian "MYSTERY RELIGION" of the Roman government and military that established the worship of the Antichrist created in the image and likeness of Mithras first unleashed on the world in 325CE to conquer "the nations" under the sign of the Mithran cross, not to mention the deliberate murder of the minds of countless innocent children by indoctrinating them into imitating idolatrous practices, mortal sins forbidden by God, with threats of real and imaginary violence that continues to this day screwing up the minds and lives of many of them for life.

As you so perfectly demonstrate.

Your inability to "see" the absurdity of your professed beliefs and practices is evidence of "the power of death" that Rome has used to neuter the people of every nation on earth.

Until now.

 

[BreezeWood]

You live in an illusion. Like this-2Cor 4:4

have you checked the archives they made to store the sources for their 4th century christian bible they spent 100 years writing ... oh, there is no archive.

no illusions, jesus taught liberation theology, self determination the religion of antiquity, the triumph of good vs evil as the means for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

they spent 100 years writing their (christian) bible just to include circular reasoning verifying their madeup religion w/ preconceived rebuttals to convince what is false to be true - as your 4:4 and that trinity as to tie everything together in a beehive of deceptions.

 

[kjw47]

Those who are chosen are those who also choose to enter the covenant path to eternal life. Eternal life is having the same life that God himself has. Those who receive the teachings of Jesus Christ and live the covenant path are chosen as candidates to enter the kingdom of heaven. Those who are not willing to follow the teachings of Jesus and refuse to keep his commandments and to seek his forgiveness for the mistakes they make in life are not candidates for the kingdom of heaven if they continue in this pattern of life. However, they too can repent and come to follow the Christ and also become members that are chosen. Baptism into the true church of Jesus Christ is the first step to entering the covenant path. Baptism is a covenant to follow the teachings of Christ and to remember him and his teachings in our walk of life. We do make mistakes and need to take advantage of repentance and the grace of forgiveness of Jesus Christ to get back on the covenant path. The sacrament of the Lord is a renewing of the baptismal covenant to keep his commandments and to always remember the Christ in all that we do. It is the true path to gaining entrance into the kingdom of heaven and becoming like the Christ and our Father in Heaven. A most important principal to understand is that Jesus is Jehovah, the Great I Am, the God of the Old Testament.

After the days of the flood, the world eventually began to become wicked again and mankind sought to gain heaven on their own and built a great tower in Babel to reach heaven. It was then that God confounded mankind's language and scattered them all over the face of the earth. God through certain righteous families began to build up his kingdom of God on the earth. Originally you had to be a member of the lineage of these families but eventually God would take his gospel to all the children of mankind. Today the opportunity to be numbered among the house of Israel and be a covenant member of The Church of Jesus Christ is unto all mankind on the face of the whole earth. If a man or woman accepts the gospel of Jesus Christ, no matter where in the world he/she lives, they can be baptized and become a covenant member of Jesus' Church. God has even allowed that we do genealogy and go back and baptize people who are dead who never accepted the gospel. Those who are dead have the gospel preached unto them and if they receive it the world of spirits who are dead, then the baptisms we perform for the dead are valid and they too become part of the covenant people to God. Eventually all mankind who have come to this earth will have had the opportunity to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and be baptized as covenant person and have the opportunity to be saved in the kingdom of heaven.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1 Corinthians 15:29
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

Jesus organized his faithful dead saints to preach the gospel among the dead and has also organized his faithful living saints to preach the gospel to the living as well as perform baptisms for the dead. His true church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If you have not yet become a covenant follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I invite you to learn of him and his church and challenge you to enter the covenant of baptism with him and become a chosen disciple.

On the day of ones death= all thought stops--so no dead saints are preaching the gospel.
preached to the spirits in prison is symbolic not literal.

 

[kjw47]

no illusions, jesus taught liberation theology, self determination the religion of antiquity, the triumph of good vs evil as the means for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

they spent 100 years writing their (christian) bible just to include circular reasoning verifying their madeup religion w/ preconceived rebuttals to convince what is false to be true - as your 4:4 and that trinity as to tie everything together in a beehive of deceptions.

The trinity is a deception. Gods translation( New world translation) doesn't teach a trinity. Error filled translations mislead. 99% of all religion claiming to be christian= false religions.

 

[hobelim]

On the day of ones death= all thought stops

Not according to Jesus who said to the "good thief" right before they died,

“Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” Luke 23:43

and as Jesus said to the woman in John 11:25

“I am the resurrection and the life; he who listens to Me will live even if he dies."

Error filled translations mislead. 99% of all religion claiming to be christian= false religions.

I guess that you are a part of that 99% which Jesus implied would be 100% = bullshit.

"However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on earth?" Luke 18:8

If he showed up today the answer would be no. Obviously YOU have been misled as well. As of today you are just another discordant sound in the cacophony of hell. Thats the truth.

You really need to learn to sing a new song if you want to live before you die so that you will continue to live the very next millisecond after your body dies and stays dead FOREVER.

 

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again, not an ounce of truth ...



have you checked the archives they made to store the sources for their 4th century christian bible they spent 100 years writing ... oh, there is no archive.

- a work of fiction they deliberately misconstrue for their own purposes void of any true heavenly religious meaning.

Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God because he performed supernatural feats. 24,000 written manuscripts documented the supernatural feats Jesus performed and the first Christians witnessed. The Babylonian Talmud confirms Jewish religious leaders put Jesus to death for sorcery and for leading Israel into apostasy. There are no opposing accounts that document that Jesus did not perform any supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that argue Jesus wasn't put to death for performing sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy. There are no opposing accounts which document Jesus wasn't resurrected. There are no opposing accounts that the first Christians didn't witness Jesus performing supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that document the first Christians didn't worship Jesus as God.

 

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Sure. The bloody history of your Roman Church, which is irrefutable, a scarlet beast that has mated with many foul and loathsome creatures worldwide and spawned over 30,000 hideous blasphemous and idolatrous denominations, the secret Babylonian "MYSTERY RELIGION" of the Roman government and military that established the worship of the Antichrist created in the image and likeness of Mithras first unleashed on the world in 325CE to conquer "the nations" under the sign of the Mithran cross, not to mention the deliberate murder of the minds of countless innocent children by indoctrinating them into imitating idolatrous practices, mortal sins forbidden by God, with threats of real and imaginary violence that continues to this day screwing up the minds and lives of many of them for life.

As you so perfectly demonstrate.

Your inability to "see" the absurdity of your professed beliefs and practices is evidence of "the power of death" that Rome has used to neuter the people of every nation on earth.

Until now.

That’s exactly the kind of things that religious nutjobs say.

 

[onefour1]

On the day of ones death= all thought stops--so no dead saints are preaching the gospel.
preached to the spirits in prison is symbolic not literal.

Tell that to Moses and Elijah who appeared to the Christ and some of his disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration. Luke 9:30 tells us that Jesus spoke with both Moses and Elijah.

 

[BreezeWood]

Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshiped Jesus as God because he performed supernatural feats. 24,000 written manuscripts documented the supernatural feats Jesus performed and the first Christians witnessed. The Babylonian Talmud confirms Jewish religious leaders put Jesus to death for sorcery and for leading Israel into apostasy. There are no opposing accounts that document that Jesus did not perform any supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that argue Jesus wasn't put to death for performing sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy. There are no opposing accounts which document Jesus wasn't resurrected. There are no opposing accounts that the first Christians didn't witness Jesus performing supernatural acts. There are no opposing accounts that document the first Christians didn't worship Jesus as God.

have you checked the archives they made to store the sources for their 4th century christian bible they spent 100 years writing ... oh, there is no archive.

- a work of fiction they deliberately misconstrue for their own purposes void of any true heavenly religious meaning.

there are no recordings you claim regarding the content of the christian bible construed by the crucifiers for their purposes without a single letter written by jesus included in their book.

they knew their destiny and provided nothing for them to use against him than verbal accounts passed down through the ages of the true events of the 1st century.

 

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there are no recordings you claim regarding the content of the christian bible construed by the crucifiers for their purposes without a single letter written by jesus included in their book.

they knew their destiny and provided nothing for them to use against him than verbal accounts passed down through the ages of the true events of the 1st century.

What evidence do you have for that belief?