What do you think of Powell's endorsement?

[N4mddissent]

Oh give me a break. It doesn't take a full year to understand where a candidate is coming from -but especially true of those who are very politically involved.

Not everyone. Just people who don't already have their minds made up ahead of time. Or perhaps some people who are weighing the pros and cons of the choices very carefully because they know their opinion is respected and could have an effect on the election.

 

[N4mddissent]

And perhaps Powell didn't view his record as appalling. I mean bipartisanship isn't unheard of. As a matter of fact, the only time I ever see a situation where there is nothing people can agree on politically is when one is on the fringe left and the other is on the fringe right. And both are in my opinion lunatics. So which decisons of Obama's did you agree with?

 

[elvis]

Just for you, Elvis. Hail to the king.

Yes, now that you say that, I do remember that photo/video.

 

[Gem]

I am disgusted... no no no... DISGUSTED... still not enough.... DISGUSTED with how the right has treated Colin Powell for his endorsment of John McCain.

Sorry...but this just doesn't pass the smell test. I have rarely if ever seen a liberal on this board jump to the defense of Colin Powell for anything, for his record, for his service, anything...instead, your side mounted some of the most egregious and disgusting attacks against him and others like him while the left and the mainstream media barely batted an eye. Racism that would have caused Senate inquiries had it been directed towards Democrats was dismissed as satire and humor because its funny and oh so hip to mock and demean African-American Republicans.

So now Republicans have taken issue with Powell's endorsement of a far-left candidate while continuing to claim strong Republican sensibilities...and you decided NOW you will get disgusted and feign outrage?

Give me a break. Powell's honorable record didn't mean shit to the left until he decided to vote your way - in fact, it was belittled and ridiculed for a good portion of his career. But now that he supports the Great Obama...now he is welcome back to the club with open arms...and is once again entitled to all the perks and entitlements of being "one of you" again.

Forgive me if I find your "outrage and disgust" just a bit too conveniently timed to be genuine.

 

[Red Dawn]

So I did my research on this guy. And discovered his record as Illinois state senator was SO appalling, so radical, so leftwing extremist -that he was someone I could never vote for. And I did this and already knew this -way before he ever ran for the Democrat nomination.

Pardon me if this sounds like a made up story. A lot of republicans like Joe the Plummer are prone to lying and misleading about who they are, and what they did in order to concern troll against Obama.

Did you really independently "research" Obama's State legislative record, as far back as 2006/06?

Or, did you really just read some slanted and biased NewsMax articles about Obama's record within the last 12 months?

 

[mdjgirl7]

I am disgusted... no no no... DISGUSTED... still not enough.... DISGUSTED with how the right has treated Colin Powell for his endorsment of John McCain. For a wing of a party that prides itself over being pro-military, pro-war and pro-veterans, to treat a former Joint Chiefs of Staff under George HW Bush, a retired 4-Star General, a former National Security Advisor to Ronald Reagan, a former Secretary of State under George W Bush like shit is absolutely repulsive. Absolutely fucking repulsive.

The Republican Party is worth nothing in my mind. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. For them to try and tarnish the record of this man is beyond repuslive. While Sean Hannity is busy talking about some stupid plumber schmuck and blasting Joe Biden for mocking Joe the Plumber, where is Hannity's equal indignation for those who blast Colin Powell?

The Republican Party has turned into a bunch of hate mongerers and disgusting sociopaths. General Colin Powell is a man that my children and your children should look up to and strive to be like one day. He has served this country with so much honor... has been a loyal servant to the Republican establishment and this is the thanks he gets for being there for the Republicans...

Ugh.

I know that is why it is such a shame Powell is exhibiting such cowardice. I could have let it go and not said a word if he had jumped ship months ago but he waited until 15 DAYS before the election. He has a alterative motive don't be fooled. Are you that blind?

You guys think Obama is for the little people? You think he wants to spread the wealth around think again. He does not give a rats butt about anybody. If he does happens to leave you out his excuse will be Oh I did not know. Chieck his record if you think I am lying [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-YoB5mnZs[/ame]

 

[glockmail]

A great statesman, pity he was saddled with Bush during his first term. Powell would be a great addition to Obama's cabinet.

Long and short of it, he will be an asset to Obama's campaign over the next several days. It is a pity Limbaugh, The Lord of Lard let's everyone in the Universe know Powell is black!

He's black. What else could he do?

 

[sealybobo]

Obama is going to win the military vote.

 

[Silence]

Let me see.

1. Powell supported removing Saddam from power. Obama says it was the worst foreign policy disaster of the century. So naturally Powell supports Obama?

hmmm I believe Obama has said the WAR in iraq was a foreign policy disaster, not the removal of Saddam. but if you can find me a link showing him saying that alrighty.

2. Powell supported the surge in Iraq. To this day Obama says even knowing the success it had, he would STILL have voted against it -meaning he WANTS to see a US defeat in Iraq. So naturally Powell supports Obama?

Obama has said the surge was necessary because of failures leading up to it. AND every expert I've seen speak has said that it wasn't the surge itself which brough stabilization to the area.

3. Powell says he remains a Republican who holds with Republican ideals to this day. Obama, although he tried to hide it for most of this campaign, inadvertently revealed what his Illinois state senator record shows to be true and what his past associations show to be true -he is a near radical socialist. So naturally Powell supports Obama?

radical socialist? yeah, and who just nationalized our banks?

4. Powell says that this nation will face some of the most dangerous years in our history in the next few years. So naturally Powell supports the only guy running with zero experience dealing with ANY crisis whatsoever, with zero foreign policy experience and has never held a job in his life requiring any executive or leadership skills and whose political positions are polar opposites of his own?

steady hand and clear thought will go a long way in steering us through any upcoming crisis. Obama shows he has the ability to remain calm and steady in the face of enormous odds. Meanwhile McCain is erratic and irrational.

Sorry, after considering what traits Obama could possibly possess that would lead Powell to endorse Obama over McCain, considering Powell's own political beliefs, military experience and political positions -as well as which candidate is actually best suited for the job on day one instead of Year Three -I personally think Powell is voting his race. It is the only thing Powell has in common with Obama.

yep.... guess you didn't listen to all the reasons Powell gve for his endorsement of Obama. OR you did listen and are choosing to ignore him.

If Powell wanted to vote based on his race why didn't he just endorse Obama the minute he announced he was running for POTUS?

Why wait until after the debates? why wait and watch to see how each man handled himself throughout the campaign? if it were only based on race I ask you this, did Powell SUDDENLY turn black?

 

[editec]

I know that is why it is such a shame Powell is exhibiting such cowardice. I could have let it go and not said a word if he had jumped ship months ago but he waited until 15 DAYS before the election. He has a alterative motive don't be fooled. Are you that blind?

I confess I must be blind

What is Powell's "alternative motive" pray tell?

You guys think Obama is for the little people?

I wasn't aware there was a significant leprechaun voter block for him to pander too.

Perhaps that explains Obama's lucky charms.

You think he wants to spread the wealth around think again.

Okay.....

tick tock; tick tick​

Hmmmm.. Sorry. Having thought again about Obama's proposals on taxes, his proposals for increases in VISTA and AMERICORPS and similar things, I still think he wants to help the middle class.

He does not give a rats butt about anybody.

That's okay.

Eights years of Bush II and most Americans are full up -- rats' butt-wise -- anyway.

A job in a fucntional economy might be nice, though. How many Bush II rat's butts can I trade in for that?

If he does happens to leave you out his excuse will be Oh I did not know. Chieck his record if you think I am lying YouTube - Obama's forgotten people

Oh yeah...whenever I want indpeth analysis of a politicians records, YOUTUBE is the source I turn to first.

 

[Navy1960]

I've said this in another post, but will say it again, I have great respect for Gen. Powell and his many accomplishments. His life story shows what a person can do in this country when they work hard in life. He comes from very humble beginnings and rose to the top of the US Military Command structure. The one quaility that I admire in Gen. Powell most was is unflinhing loyality and care for his troops under his command. With that said it came as no surprise to me that Gen. Powell endorsed Barack Obama for president as he has always been more moderate in his views. The one thing that is not being considered here is that perhaps due to a deep sense of loyality that Gen. Powell possesed he felt that due to Andy Cards treatment of him in reference to his resignation as Sec. of State as well as his differences between Don Rumsfeld left him no choice but to seek loyalities elsewhere? Thats just a thought. I don't think for one moment that not even for one second that Gen. Powell made this decision based on racial issues. If anyone knew Gen. Powell and his history that would laugh at such an accusation.

Colin Powell announced his resignation as Secretary of State on Monday, November 15, 2004. According to the Washington Post, he had been asked to resign by the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card.[20] Powell announced that he would stay on until the end of Bush's first term or until his replacement's confirmation by Congress. The following day, George W. Bush nominated National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice as Powell's successor. News of Powell's leaving the Administration spurred mixed reactions from politicians around the world—some upset at the loss of a statesman seen as a moderating factor within the Bush administration, but others hoping for Powell's successor to wield more influence within the cabinet, and thus be a more credible negotiator.

Powell was seen as more moderate than most figures in the administration, he was spared many of the attacks that have been leveled at more controversial advocates of the invasion, such as Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. At times, infighting between the Powell-led State Department, the Rumsfeld-led Defense Department, and Vice President Dick Cheney's office had the effect of paralyzing the administration on crucial issues, such as what actions to take regarding Iran and North Korea.
Colin Powell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You want to see why Gen. Powell did not endorse John McCain look no further than the relationship between DoD, Andy Card, the Bush Administration and how Gen. Powell was used in that situation. I have ZERO respect for Don Rumsfeld and it does not surpise me whatsoever that Gen. Powell took his loyality elsewhere.

 

[CornbreadOracle]

Thank you, Navy1960. I completely agree with your assessment of Powell's endorsement of Obama.

When Powell says that he doesn't like the direction of the Republican party I think he means something very personal. This must have been a hard choice for Powell. I'm sure he has immense respect for McCain as a fellow veteran. But he has, unfortunately, been treated like the ugly step child of the Republican party -- well, actually of the Bush administration. Most likely he feels like Joe Liberman must -- he didn't leave the party but the party left him.

 

[glockmail]

....

You want to see why Gen. Powell did not endorse John McCain look no further than the relationship between DoD, Andy Card, the Bush Administration and how Gen. Powell was used in that situation. I have ZERO respect for Don Rumsfeld and it does not surpise me whatsoever that Gen. Powell took his loyality elsewhere.

So he's spiteful?

 

[Navy1960]

Thank you, Navy1960. I completely agree with your assessment of Powell's endorsement of Obama.

When Powell says that he doesn't like the direction of the Republican party I think he means something very personal. This must have been a hard choice for Powell. I'm sure he has immense respect for McCain as a fellow veteran. But he has, unfortunately, been treated like the ugly step child of the Republican party -- well, actually of the Bush administration. Most likely he feels like Joe Liberman must -- he didn't leave the party but the party left him.

One furhter thing to consider here too is that Colin Powell actully campaigned for John McCain in 2000. I honestly don't feel this has much to do with John McCain so much as the relationship Gen. Powell has between the parties I mentioned above. Thats just my assesment though. To me it's obvious that Gen. Powell is not going on the campaign trail with Barack Obama and by the lateness of the endorsement that he still has great respect for John McCain. I don't know but maybe it is just me, but this endorsement was not a big surprise.

 

[editec]

So he's spiteful?

Perhaps he now understands the following adage?

Lie down with dogs get up with fleas​

 

[dilloduck]

Perhaps he now understands the following adage?

Lie down with dogs get up with fleas​

So why did he lie down with dogs in the first place ? Is he a poor judge of character ?

 

[Silence]

So he's spiteful?

that's over simplifying isn't it?

Funny thing, I haven't seen any Liberals attacking Joe Liberman for his "betrayal" of the Democratic party? Perhaps because Joe doesn't carry as much respect and his endorsement means shit to McCain.

 

[Navy1960]

So he's spiteful?

Perhaps glock if you want to say that, but IMHO Gen. Powell's relationship with the Bush Administration , not so much Bush, but more so with Andy Card, and the DoD and the dynamics of that left Gen. Powell in a situation where he had little choice. I don't see this so much as Gen. Powell's spite on the Republican party so much as not having much choice given his recent history with his former position.

 

[xsited1]

An African-American supporting an African-American. Nothing more.

 

[sealybobo]

An African-American supporting an African-American. Nothing more.

You are nothing more than a white voting against a black.