What do you know about the Vietnam War?

[Deadstick]

Stalin's Little Helpers

They chose Communism, an evil religion that threatens the world. And the South Vietnamese chose not to fight it as much as they could have, like the Indonesians did.

You are too far gone for help, has it not crossed your mind the Vietnamese fought because they didn't want to be under the Colonialist or Imperialist jackboot, it really isn't rocket science.

 

[Mac-7]

China has not invaded anyone for centuries, unless you count their part in North Korea to stop that nutter McAurthur trying to cross the Yalu river on China's border, how many Countries has the US invaded and bombed, your argument is totally bankrupt on all counts.

Other than Tibet in 1950 and the Philippines as recently as last week

And I know your excuse so I’ll cut to the chase

Just because china claims foreign territory as part of china does not make it so

 

[Deadstick]

Other than Tibet in 1950 and the Philippines as recently as last week

And I know your excuse so I’ll cut to the chase

Just because china claims foreign territory as part of china does not make it so

Historically Tibet like Taiwan has been part of China Tibet never was a separate Country, China invading Philippines last week is news to me.

 

[Mac-7]

Historically Tibet like Taiwan has been part of China Tibet never was a separate Country, China invading Philippines last week is news to me.

Wrong in both cases

Tibet was an isolated land with more in common with India than china

Ditto for Taiwan which was never closely tied to Peking

And even less so now

 

[AZrailwhale]

China has not invaded anyone for centuries, unless you count their part in North Korea to stop that nutter McAurthur trying to cross the Yalu river on China's border, how many Countries has the US invaded and bombed, your argument is totally bankrupt on all counts.

You are an idiot. How about Vietnam in the seventies, Russia in 1969, India in 1962, and Tibet in 1951 and the resistance fighting between the Tibetans and Chinese occupying troops between 1956 and 1974 right off the top of my head. The PRC has total control of the media, so you never hear any of China's dark little wars unless they are against a free country.

 

[whitehall]

After the war VC general Giap admitted he was out of troops and out of operations after the last gasp in the Tet offensive. Walter Cronkite donned a helmet and went to Vietnam and pretended to be under fire declared the hard won American Tet victory to be a "stalemate". LBJ too the hint and surrendered.

 

[Deadstick]

You are an idiot. How about Vietnam in the seventies, Russia in 1969, India in 1962, and Tibet in 1951 and the resistance fighting between the Tibetans and Chinese occupying troops between 1956 and 1974 right off the top of my head. The PRC has total control of the media, so you never hear any of China's dark little wars unless they are against a free country.

No you are an idiot, those were not full blown invasions on the other side of the world they were border disputes you idiot, and Tibet never was a Country it is a autonomous region of China not recognized as a separate Country by anyone other than that idiot who calls himself a living God and his handlers the Dahl Lama.

 

[Deadstick]

Wrong in both cases

Tibet was an isolated land with more in common with India than china

Ditto for Taiwan which was never closely tied to Peking

And even less so now

So which Countries recognize Tibet or Taiwan as separate Countries? do they have a seat at the UN? NO. these cases are just abused by the Empire to divide and rule as we now see in Ukraine.

 

[Mac-7]

So which Countries recognize Tibet or Taiwan as separate Countries? do they have a seat at the UN? NO. these cases are just abused by the Empire to divide and rule as we now see in Ukraine.

Its not up to strangers in foreign countries to decide if Taiwan can be free or not

Thats up to the Taiwanese people

 

[Deadstick]

Its not up to strangers in foreign countries to decide if Taiwan can be free or not

Thats up to the Taiwanese people

So you can't, bottom line is at the moment Taiwan is part of China and recognized as such by the UN, it's just a fact whether you like it or not. you just love breaking up other Countries unless its your Country, you had a bloody civil war over the Confederates wanting to breakaway.

 

[Mac-7]

So you can't, bottom line is at the moment Taiwan is part of China and recognized as such by the UN, it's just a fact whether you like it or not. you just love breaking up other Countries unless its your Country, you had a bloody civil war over the Confederates wanting to breakaway.

Again, the UN dies not rule Taiwan and neither does communist china

The Taiwanese rule themselves

 

[JGalt]

Here are some questions to find out.
I got 7 of 11 right, missed 5, 8, 10, and 11.

1) How many American service members served in the Vietnam War?​

A) 1 million
B) 560,000
C) 2.7 million
D) 5.3 million

2) How many Americans died serving in Vietnam?​

A) 220,538
B) 58,220
C) 25,100
D) 110,400

3) Approximately how many Vietnamese died during the Vietnam War, according to best official estimates?​

1) Around 700,000
2) At least 1 million
3) At least 3 million
4) At least 6 million

4) Allied Forces in World War II dropped approximately 1.4 million tons of bombs on Nazi Germany. How many tons of bombs did America drop on Vietnam during the Vietnam War?​

A) 700,000 tons
B) 1.7 million tons
C) 3 million tons
D) 5 million tons

5) Who famously and wrongly predicted seeing a “light at the end of the tunnel” in the Vietnam War in 1967?​

A) Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger
B) President Lyndon B. Johnson
C) General William C. Westmoreland
D) Defense Secretary Robert McNamara

6) What was the Tet Offensive and why was it significant?​

A) An American Easter bombing campaign over Cambodia to choke off the Ho Chi Minh Trail. It caused outrage around the world and on U.S. campuses.

B) North Vietnamese torpedo boats attacked an American Navy destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin during the August vacation month, leading the Johnson administration to surge U.S. troops into Vietnam.

C) Viet Cong guerrillas attempted an uprising in South Vietnam on the Lunar New Year. It was ultimately defeated, but the media reporting about the offensive helped turned American public opinion against the war.

D) President Richard M. Nixon ordered the bombing of Hanoi on Christmas Day, sparking protests across the United States. The bombing was successful but the anti-war movement reached a tipping point.

7) What was the most pivotal television moment that helped change American attitudes toward the Vietnam War in 1968?​

A) CBS correspondent Dan Rather angered Nixon by asking if he was a crook at a White House news conference

B) Singer Joan Baez staged a live concert from Hanoi during an American bombing raid that was broadcast on PBS.

C) NBC News broadcast an interview with Jane Fonda while she was visiting Hanoi.

D) CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite returned from a reporting trip to Vietnam and called the war a stalemate that could not be won.

8) Who was the first sitting American president to visit Vietnam?​

1) John F. Kennedy
2) Richard M. Nixon
3) Lyndon B. Johnson
4) Barack Obama

9) When did the United States and Vietnam establish diplomatic relations?​

1) 1976
2) 1980
3) 1995
4) 2000

10) How many Vietnam veterans have been nominated for president of the United States on a major party ticket?​

1) Three
2) None
3) One
4) Five

11) How many American tourists visited Vietnam in 2024?​

A) 1.23 million
B) 510,000
C) 780,000
D) 211,800

Spoiler: Answers

1/C - 2/B - 3/C - 4/D - 5/C - 6/C - 7/D - 8/C - 9/C - 10/A - 11/C

Since I didn't serve until after the war was winding down, I know very little about it. But I have two brothers in law who served there, and they've told me about their experiences there. One was a Marine and only served a month before he took some shrapnel from a grenade and was sent back to the states. The other was a mortar man and served a pretty long stint there. He told me about how the VC would come through the barbed wire and night, and about how the troops got cases and cases of steaks and beer. He seemed to like having served there, and says he had a lot of fun. Neither one of my BIL's seems to have any PTSD or anything, and think of their service as just something they did.

 

[Zincwarrior]

After the war VC general Giap admitted he was out of troops and out of operations after the last gasp in the Tet offensive. Walter Cronkite donned a helmet and went to Vietnam and pretended to be under fire declared the hard won American Tet victory to be a "stalemate". LBJ too the hint and surrendered.

Thats VC not NVA. They still had plenty of NVA. Vietnam was another European war we got snookered into, this time by France.

 

[Deadstick]

Again, the UN dies not rule Taiwan and neither does communist china

The Taiwanese rule themselves

The UN and the UN charter, the rule of law old boy, now i know your Country and Israel don't give a rats arse about the rule of law ,but i doesn't change the facts, these days you work by the rule of the jungle and the Gun so don't complain when others do.

 

[Deadstick]

Again, the UN dies not rule Taiwan and neither does communist china

The Taiwanese rule themselves

You sound like a stuck record.

 

[Deadstick]

Since I didn't serve until after the war was winding down, I know very little about it. But I have two brothers in law who served there, and they've told me about their experiences there. One was a Marine and only served a month before he took some shrapnel from a grenade and was sent back to the states. The other was a mortar man and served a pretty long stint there. He told me about how the VC would come through the barbed wire and night, and about how the troops got cases and cases of steaks and beer. He seemed to like having served there, and says he had a lot of fun. Neither one of my BIL's seems to have any PTSD or anything, and think of their service as just something they did.

Yes it was all a jolly jape a little bit like Summer camp but with shredded kids and Napalm.

 

[Mac-7]

The UN and the UN charter, the rule of law old boy, now i know your Country and Israel don't give a rats arse about the rule of law ,but i doesn't change the facts, these days you work by the rule of the jungle and the Gun so don't complain when others do.

The rule of law?

There is no One World Government and wont be till Jesus returns to claim His Kingdom

 

[Deadstick]

The rule of law?

There is no One World Government and wont be till Jesus returns to claim His Kingdom

Some people can't wait that long so have taken matters into their own hands.

 

[odanny]

There is no One World Government and wont be till Jesus returns to claim His Kingdom

Wrong sub-forum, has nothing to do with the Vietnam War.

I would suggest Religion and Ethics, Conspiracy Theories, or the Rubber Room for further discussion on that.

 

[Mac-7]

Wrong sub-forum, has nothing to do with the Vietnam War.

I would suggest Religion and Ethics, Conspiracy Theories, or the Rubber Room for further discussion on that.

Taiwan is not part of Vietnam either

Does the mention of God make your knee jerk?