CDZ What do you think is the biggest problem in society today?

[LoneLaugher]

The root word of progressivism is progress. Just saying.

Yep, but 'progress' is not necessarily a good thing. Hitler made great progress in exterminating all the Jews. Islamo extremist terrorist have made great progress in changing the culture of people they don't like.

And, Progressives have made great progress in creating huge blocks of entitlement dependent people. Such 'progress', in its broadest sense, is the greatest problem facing America today.

Hitler!!!!!!

 

[airplanemechanic]

Ok, I'll try one more time. Dumb this down a few more grade levels and see if some particular moro.....I mean posters..... on here can understand what I'm saying.

The key word in what I said was ACCEPT. That is......ACCEPT. Society ACCEPTING a homosexual family as normal and healthy is bringing our society down. There were always homosexuals, but society would shame them into hiding where they certainly weren't trying to rear children or influence societal life. The same way society shames sex offenders today. If you were gay, you were laughed at, beat up, etc. It wasn't ok. You certainly didn't raise kids in an environment like that. Now, society thinks its "cool to be gay" and you have shows like Modern Family (WTF??? just the name alone implies this is normal when it is NOT) that queer show Steven and Chris and the list goes on and on.

I think television is partially to blame for this gay thing. It pushes gayness as far more common than it actually is in society. There is a huge push by liberals to accept gays. I mean who is pushing for gay marriage? Everything is gay gay gay. Yet....gays make up 1-3% of society. There are roughly only 3 million gays in a country of 300 million people. Yet you'd think the whole damn country are fudgepackers if you turn on the TV. It's disgusting.

So no, moro.....I mean forum member, I never said gays are tearing apart families. I said society is accepting gay families as normal and THIS is destroying what has been historically known as the nuclear family. This destruction (caused by society accepting gays, not by the gays themselves) of the nuclear family is resulting in children growing up with weird social mores. It's not normal or healthy to be in a homosexual relationship. Personally, I think its disgusting. But that's not what I'm here to talk about. Just to explain, for the 4th time, what I said. To say gays are tearing apart families implies they're breaking down the door and replacing a heterosexual mom and dad with two fudgepackers, and that's not at all what I said.

Another point.....a truly gay couple would never HAVE children. If you're gay, you can't reproduce because you're only with the same sex. So a gay family with kids means that at least one of the parents had a heterosexual relationship and have TURNED gay by choice, meaning they are forcing this child into this disgusting family situation which is unnecessary as they are forcing this innocent child to see two same sex people in a romantic relationship that is, by definition, fake. A truly gay man doesn't have kids, a truly gay woman doesn't have kids. Well, I guess a gay woman can be artificially inseminated, but two men who are truly gay CANNOT have children. And they certainly should not be able to adopt. Bringing a non-relative child into a house with two fudgepackers should be a crime.

 

[Foxfyre]

Ok, I'll try one more time. Dumb this down a few more grade levels and see if some particular moro.....I mean posters..... on here can understand what I'm saying.

The key word in what I said was ACCEPT. That is......ACCEPT. Society ACCEPTING a homosexual family as normal and healthy is bringing our society down. There were always homosexuals, but society would shame them into hiding where they certainly weren't trying to rear children or influence societal life. The same way society shames sex offenders today. If you were gay, you were laughed at, beat up, etc. It wasn't ok. You certainly didn't raise kids in an environment like that. Now, society thinks its "cool to be gay" and you have shows like Modern Family (WTF??? just the name alone implies this is normal when it is NOT) that queer show Steven and Chris and the list goes on and on.

I think television is partially to blame for this gay thing. It pushes gayness as far more common than it actually is in society. There is a huge push by liberals to accept gays. I mean who is pushing for gay marriage? Everything is gay gay gay. Yet....gays make up 1-3% of society. There are roughly only 3 million gays in a country of 300 million people. Yet you'd think the whole damn country are fudgepackers if you turn on the TV. It's disgusting.

So no, moro.....I mean forum member, I never said gays are tearing apart families. I said society is accepting gay families as normal and THIS is destroying what has been historically known as the nuclear family. This destruction (caused by society accepting gays, not by the gays themselves) of the nuclear family is resulting in children growing up with weird social mores. It's not normal or healthy to be in a homosexual relationship. Personally, I think its disgusting. But that's not what I'm here to talk about. Just to explain, for the 4th time, what I said. To say gays are tearing apart families implies they're breaking down the door and replacing a heterosexual mom and dad with two fudgepackers, and that's not at all what I said.

Another point.....a truly gay couple would never HAVE children. If you're gay, you can't reproduce because you're only with the same sex. So a gay family with kids means that at least one of the parents had a heterosexual relationship and have TURNED gay by choice, meaning they are forcing this child into this disgusting family situation which is unnecessary as they are forcing this innocent child to see two same sex people in a romantic relationship that is, by definition, fake. A truly gay man doesn't have kids, a truly gay woman doesn't have kids. Well, I guess a gay woman can be artificially inseminated, but two men who are truly gay CANNOT have children. And they certainly should not be able to adopt. Bringing a non-relative child into a house with two fudgepackers should be a crime.

You put a lot of work into that post, and a lot of people would agree with you. But I think you missed the point.

Hunting rifles and hand guns are not the cause of gun crimes. Gun crimes are caused by people who use guns to commit crimes.

Potato chips and soft drinks do not make people fat. It is consuming too many of them that make people fat.

Muslims or Christians or Jews or any other religious faith or group just living their lives cause problems for nobody. It is such people imposing their views on others that creates the problems.

Just being gay or black or being born into any other minority group is not a sin nor is it a problem for anybody. It is those who would deny such people the right to be themselves and live their lives as they choose that creates the problems. It is those minority groups demanding concessions or special treatment or privilege or demanding that others change their lifestyles to accommodate them that creates the problems.

 

[asaratis]

Hatred is the biggest problem the world has. When people learn to love and respect EVERYTHING around them, most of our problems will disappear.

 

[Asclepias]

Moral character. Too many are lacking in empathy, courage, fortitude, honesty, loyalty. Too many exhibit bad behaviors of all types. Too many are addicted by bad habits. Too many are unwilling to work to improve themselves. Too many are dependent on too few.

Exactly. They won't acknowledge that people can control their bad behavior. We can exert control over whether or not we act on sexual impulses...we can learn to turn our focus away from ourselves and what we, personally, WANT and learn to moderate our thought and behavior in order to improve our character.

Who determines whats bad and whats not? Is being gay bad? Is being a cross dresser bad? How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? Is that bad or only bad for certain people?

Who? Everyone does.

Is being gay bad? no.
Is being a cross dresser bad? no

You are confused by the term "being" and the term "exhibiting."

How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? no

Owning a thing so to can perform an action is not bad. You are confused by the term "owning" to perform an action that may in fact be necessary, just, and legal and murdering people in cold blood. IOW you are pushing a false straw-man argument typically made by folks on the left.

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that "owning" child porn is not bad?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

 

[Asclepias]

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that owning child porn is not bad?

Seriously. All you're doing is raving, and that doesn't belong in here.

This is the CDZ. Dont make me report you. If you have trouble with my questions then let someone else handle them.

You can report me till the cows come home. My point is your posts are nonsensical. You don't appear to understand what people say, yet you post piles of garbage all over the place.

All while claiming that people say things they don't say. You shouldn't be in here.

It doesnt "appear" to you that I understand because you dont understand my questions. Thats why I said let someone else handle them.

And they give you the same answer, and again you pretend they haven't answered.

Give up. You aren't cut out for this. Just because you don't get an answer you LIKE doesn't mean the question wasn't answered.

If you give me the same answer after I pointed out the error in that answer it means you need to stretch yourself and realize you need to think harder to come up with an answer that has some truth to it.

 

[Asclepias]

The root word of progressivism is progress. Just saying.

Yep, but 'progress' is not necessarily a good thing. Hitler made great progress in exterminating all the Jews. Islamo extremist terrorist have made great progress in changing the culture of people they don't like.

And, Progressives have made great progress in creating huge blocks of entitlement dependent people. Such 'progress', in its broadest sense, is the greatest problem facing America today.

Progress is always a good thing to those moving forward. It means you are achieving your goals. Others will invariable view your progress as something undesired. Stagnation kills. You have to keep moving and adapting, There is no room for growth in your comfort zone. Conservatives rarely venture from their comfort zones. They are afraid to make mistakes, learn from them, and then repeat the process to achieve a higher level of existence..

 

[RKMBrown]

Exactly. They won't acknowledge that people can control their bad behavior. We can exert control over whether or not we act on sexual impulses...we can learn to turn our focus away from ourselves and what we, personally, WANT and learn to moderate our thought and behavior in order to improve our character.

Who determines whats bad and whats not? Is being gay bad? Is being a cross dresser bad? How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? Is that bad or only bad for certain people?

Who? Everyone does.

Is being gay bad? no.
Is being a cross dresser bad? no

You are confused by the term "being" and the term "exhibiting."

How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? no

Owning a thing so to can perform an action is not bad. You are confused by the term "owning" to perform an action that may in fact be necessary, just, and legal and murdering people in cold blood. IOW you are pushing a false straw-man argument typically made by folks on the left.

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that "owning" child porn is not bad?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

You're lying about what I said. Stop changing what I said. If you don't understand what I said ask. But you don't have the right to completely change what I said, then claim your version of what I said is patently false. That said, I don't expect better from you, since this is not the first time you've done this sort of egregious misquoting of my statements.

 

[JohnAdams]

Drug and alcohol abuse. 21% of high school seniors say they get high and 41% of the same group report drinking alcohol. Our kids are literally moving around in an intoxicated daze.

 

[Foxfyre]

The root word of progressivism is progress. Just saying.

Yep, but 'progress' is not necessarily a good thing. Hitler made great progress in exterminating all the Jews. Islamo extremist terrorist have made great progress in changing the culture of people they don't like.

And, Progressives have made great progress in creating huge blocks of entitlement dependent people. Such 'progress', in its broadest sense, is the greatest problem facing America today.

Progress is always a good thing to those moving forward. It means you are achieving your goals. Others will invariable view your progress as something undesired. Stagnation kills. You have to keep moving and adapting, There is no room for growth in your comfort zone. Conservatives rarely venture from their comfort zones. They are afraid to make mistakes, learn from them, and then repeat the process to achieve a higher level of existence..

I would say that the problem isn't mostly with conservatives but mostly with liberals who refuse to learn from their mistakes. And I'm sure each of us is firmly committed to our own point of view.

In the new structured debate forum, concepts of progressivism/modern day liberalism are being discussed with the thesis asking if modern day progressivism/liberalism has worn out its welcome. Some say yes. Some say no. For myself, while there are many serious problems confronting all of us in this modern world, I do believe modern day American progressivism is our most serious one.

 

[Asclepias]

Who determines whats bad and whats not? Is being gay bad? Is being a cross dresser bad? How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? Is that bad or only bad for certain people?

Who? Everyone does.

Is being gay bad? no.
Is being a cross dresser bad? no

You are confused by the term "being" and the term "exhibiting."

How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? no

Owning a thing so to can perform an action is not bad. You are confused by the term "owning" to perform an action that may in fact be necessary, just, and legal and murdering people in cold blood. IOW you are pushing a false straw-man argument typically made by folks on the left.

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that "owning" child porn is not bad?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

You're lying about what I said. Stop changing what I said. If you don't understand what I said ask. But you don't have the right to completely change what I said, then claim your version of what I said is patently false. That said, I don't expect better from you, since this is not the first time you've done this sort of egregious misquoting of my statements.

I'm not lying about what you said. Are you claiming you didnt say this...?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

If that is not what you meant then you need to be clear.

 

[Asclepias]

The root word of progressivism is progress. Just saying.

Yep, but 'progress' is not necessarily a good thing. Hitler made great progress in exterminating all the Jews. Islamo extremist terrorist have made great progress in changing the culture of people they don't like.

And, Progressives have made great progress in creating huge blocks of entitlement dependent people. Such 'progress', in its broadest sense, is the greatest problem facing America today.

Progress is always a good thing to those moving forward. It means you are achieving your goals. Others will invariable view your progress as something undesired. Stagnation kills. You have to keep moving and adapting, There is no room for growth in your comfort zone. Conservatives rarely venture from their comfort zones. They are afraid to make mistakes, learn from them, and then repeat the process to achieve a higher level of existence..

I would say that the problem isn't mostly with conservatives but mostly with liberals who refuse to learn from their mistakes. And I'm sure each of us is firmly committed to our own point of view.

In the new structured debate forum, concepts of progressivism/modern day liberalism are being discussed with the thesis asking if modern day progressivism/liberalism has worn out its welcome. Some say yes. Some say no. For myself, while there are many serious problems confronting all of us in this modern world, I do believe modern day American progressivism is our most serious one.

Yes I would disagree with you on where the problem lies. I cant be happy working with people that rigidly adhere to negative loop politics. Trickle down doesnt work. Human nature will not let it. People need to be empowered starting with believing they can achieve. They need hope. Progressives offer that and more. Civilization should remain a work in progress not a stagnant entity devoid of change and adaptation.

 

[RKMBrown]

Who? Everyone does.

Is being gay bad? no.
Is being a cross dresser bad? no

You are confused by the term "being" and the term "exhibiting."

How about owning a gun so you can kill someone? no

Owning a thing so to can perform an action is not bad. You are confused by the term "owning" to perform an action that may in fact be necessary, just, and legal and murdering people in cold blood. IOW you are pushing a false straw-man argument typically made by folks on the left.

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that "owning" child porn is not bad?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

You're lying about what I said. Stop changing what I said. If you don't understand what I said ask. But you don't have the right to completely change what I said, then claim your version of what I said is patently false. That said, I don't expect better from you, since this is not the first time you've done this sort of egregious misquoting of my statements.

I'm not lying about what you said. Are you claiming you didnt say this...?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

If that is not what you meant then you need to be clear.

Apparently you are incapable of discerning the difference between EVERYONE BUT YOU and yourself. Maybe you can ask someone to explain the difference between plural possessive and singular possessive.

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

You apparently think you asked the question who makes the determination of what is good or bad for everyone? To that question I would answer: NO ONE DOES!

 

[Asclepias]

"Everyone" has as many different opinions as people on the planet. Who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad?

No I am encompassing the action with the state of being. Is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?

So are you claiming that "owning" child porn is not bad?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

You're lying about what I said. Stop changing what I said. If you don't understand what I said ask. But you don't have the right to completely change what I said, then claim your version of what I said is patently false. That said, I don't expect better from you, since this is not the first time you've done this sort of egregious misquoting of my statements.

I'm not lying about what you said. Are you claiming you didnt say this...?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

If that is not what you meant then you need to be clear.

Apparently you are incapable of discerning the difference between EVERYONE BUT YOU and yourself. Maybe you can ask someone to explain the difference between plural possessive and singular possessive.

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

You apparently think you asked the question who makes the determination of what is good or bad for everyone? To that question I would answer: NO ONE DOES!

Apparently you are incapable of making that distinction and incorporating it into your answer. If you had a misconception about my question you should have asked me for clarification.

Now that we have that straightened out and you now understand can you answer the question? "No one does" is not an answer to the question because its obvious someone does.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I think that's part of the problem in todays society. Everyone says "just accept everyone". Um, no. That's the problem, not the solution. There have to be lines drawn in the sand.

You put a lot of work into that post, and a lot of people would agree with you. But I think you missed the point.

Hunting rifles and hand guns are not the cause of gun crimes. Gun crimes are caused by people who use guns to commit crimes.

Potato chips and soft drinks do not make people fat. It is consuming too many of them that make people fat.

Muslims or Christians or Jews or any other religious faith or group just living their lives cause problems for nobody. It is such people imposing their views on others that creates the problems.

Just being gay or black or being born into any other minority group is not a sin nor is it a problem for anybody. It is those who would deny such people the right to be themselves and live their lives as they choose that creates the problems. It is those minority groups demanding concessions or special treatment or privilege or demanding that others change their lifestyles to accommodate them that creates the problems.

And you are wrong. According to the bible, homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, meaning being gay VERY MUCH IS A SIN. But throwing "gay" and "black" into the same sentence is interesting, though. Glad you did that. Says alot about you.

And I'm not missing the point, I'M MAKING THE POINT. Accepting everyone is the problem. If we accept homos, why not pedos? Why doesn't society accept them? Why don't liberals? Where do you draw the line? It used to be in front gays, now its behind them. Where does it stop? We are taught by liberals to accept illegals, now we have tens of millions of illegal immigrants in this country, sucking our supplies without contributing. They are receiving benefits without paying taxes.

No, we need to STOP accepting this stuff and demand that something be done. Stop making excuses for everything and make people responsible for their actions. Illegals are criminals, not aliens. They belong in jail, not receiving free benefits.

The name of this thread is "what do you think the biggest problem in society is today?" So I explained what I thought was a big one. I just had to do it 4 times before a moron on here stopped misquoting what I was saying.

 

[Foxfyre]

The root word of progressivism is progress. Just saying.

Yep, but 'progress' is not necessarily a good thing. Hitler made great progress in exterminating all the Jews. Islamo extremist terrorist have made great progress in changing the culture of people they don't like.

And, Progressives have made great progress in creating huge blocks of entitlement dependent people. Such 'progress', in its broadest sense, is the greatest problem facing America today.

Progress is always a good thing to those moving forward. It means you are achieving your goals. Others will invariable view your progress as something undesired. Stagnation kills. You have to keep moving and adapting, There is no room for growth in your comfort zone. Conservatives rarely venture from their comfort zones. They are afraid to make mistakes, learn from them, and then repeat the process to achieve a higher level of existence..

I would say that the problem isn't mostly with conservatives but mostly with liberals who refuse to learn from their mistakes. And I'm sure each of us is firmly committed to our own point of view.

In the new structured debate forum, concepts of progressivism/modern day liberalism are being discussed with the thesis asking if modern day progressivism/liberalism has worn out its welcome. Some say yes. Some say no. For myself, while there are many serious problems confronting all of us in this modern world, I do believe modern day American progressivism is our most serious one.

Yes I would disagree with you on where the problem lies. I cant be happy working with people that rigidly adhere to negative loop politics. Trickle down doesnt work. Human nature will not let it. People need to be empowered starting with believing they can achieve. They need hope. Progressives offer that and more. Civilization should remain a work in progress not a stagnant entity devoid of change and adaptation.

But when civilization refuses to look at the negative consequences it creates and repair them, achievement of negative consequences is not something that anybody should aspire to. And to me, that is the basic flaw in progressivism that operates by what sounds and feels good, righteous, and noble rather than by the results of what they do. And because I firmly believe what they do has contributed to or exacerbated so many of our serious problems, I have to find progressivism as the single most serous problem of our time.

 

[Mac1958]

What are your thoughts?
What do you think are the biggest problems affecting our society today, whether they be social, political, economic or otherwise? Why?
Personally I vote for
Impatience. People expect instant gratification.

P.S. I could elaborate but I'm too lazy to type it all out.

Narcissism.

Too many people know more about how to take a selfie than they do about our political system.

Too many people know more about Kim Kardashian's child than how the economy works.

Too many people are willing to lie for short term political "victory" rather than humbly cooperate to improve things.

.

 

[ScienceRocks]

People don't value the truth or seek out facts. We have become a society of puppets and loons that accept everything and yet have no standards.

I believe the 50s were the peak of our civilization. We could accept that the family was important, accountability and most importantly we seeked greatness as a nation.

We'd invest in infrastructure, science and r&d, and had children that could meet the demands to make it a reality.

 

[RKMBrown]

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.
In response, you asked who exactly makes the determination of what is good or bad? In response I'm telling you that everyone does. I'm not sure what part of everyone having independent thought is confusing.

Action is not the same as state. So, conflating, or as you say "encompassing" action in general with state in general has no meaningful context.

You ask, "is acting outing out your natural desire to be gay bad?" Not to me it isn't. Not in general. However, if a male teacher reaches down and grabs his students member, well I would argue that is pretty dang bad. So it really depends on the action your are talking about, no?

Your premise is patently false. No....everyone doesn't decide for me what I consider good or bad. There is and never has been a agreement on what constitutes good or bad behavior. So you need to rework your response and answer my question with something more specific than "everyone". I expect better from you.

You're lying about what I said. Stop changing what I said. If you don't understand what I said ask. But you don't have the right to completely change what I said, then claim your version of what I said is patently false. That said, I don't expect better from you, since this is not the first time you've done this sort of egregious misquoting of my statements.

I'm not lying about what you said. Are you claiming you didnt say this...?

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

If that is not what you meant then you need to be clear.

Apparently you are incapable of discerning the difference between EVERYONE BUT YOU and yourself. Maybe you can ask someone to explain the difference between plural possessive and singular possessive.

You asked, who makes the determination of what is good or bad? I told you that everyone does.

You apparently think you asked the question who makes the determination of what is good or bad for everyone? To that question I would answer: NO ONE DOES!

Apparently you are incapable of making that distinction and incorporating it into your answer. If you had a misconception about my question you should have asked me for clarification.

Now that we have that straightened out and you now understand can you answer the question? "No one does" is not an answer to the question because its obvious someone does.

Apparently, you still do not know what everyone means. Maybe you can ask ANYONE what EVERYONE MEANs. Then maybe you'll start to understand my answers.

As for this NEW question you are asking which NOW is apparently... who makes the determination of what is good or bad for groups of one or more people. Well that would be completely up to the group of people as to whether they are too ignorant to make up their own minds for what is good or bad for them. Different groups of people let some other people make decisions for what is bad or good for them. Not me. I am self-reliant for such things. Who do you let make your decision as to whether or not things are good or bad? Have you done that your whole life, or just since you became a democrat?

 

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I think that's part of the problem in todays society. Everyone says "just accept everyone". Um, no. That's the problem, not the solution. There have to be lines drawn in the sand.

You put a lot of work into that post, and a lot of people would agree with you. But I think you missed the point.

Hunting rifles and hand guns are not the cause of gun crimes. Gun crimes are caused by people who use guns to commit crimes.

Potato chips and soft drinks do not make people fat. It is consuming too many of them that make people fat.

Muslims or Christians or Jews or any other religious faith or group just living their lives cause problems for nobody. It is such people imposing their views on others that creates the problems.

Just being gay or black or being born into any other minority group is not a sin nor is it a problem for anybody. It is those who would deny such people the right to be themselves and live their lives as they choose that creates the problems. It is those minority groups demanding concessions or special treatment or privilege or demanding that others change their lifestyles to accommodate them that creates the problems.

And you are wrong. According to the bible, homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, meaning being gay VERY MUCH IS A SIN. But throwing "gay" and "black" into the same sentence is interesting, though. Glad you did that. Says alot about you.

And I'm not missing the point, I'M MAKING THE POINT. Accepting everyone is the problem. If we accept homos, why not pedos? Why doesn't society accept them? Why don't liberals? Where do you draw the line? It used to be in front gays, now its behind them. Where does it stop? We are taught by liberals to accept illegals, now we have tens of millions of illegal immigrants in this country, sucking our supplies without contributing. They are receiving benefits without paying taxes.

No, we need to STOP accepting this stuff and demand that something be done. Stop making excuses for everything and make people responsible for their actions. Illegals are criminals, not aliens. They belong in jail, not receiving free benefits.

The name of this thread is "what do you think the biggest problem in society is today?" So I explained what I thought was a big one. I just had to do it 4 times before a moron on here stopped misquoting what I was saying.

The Bible also admonishes us to judge not. I will not say a condition a person is born with and who has no choice in the matter is a sin. Most especially when such condition harms nobody and requires nothing from us other than us minding our own business. Perhaps people are born pedophiles too--I don't know--but pedophilia is extremely harmful to its victims. And therefore it is right that society deals with it.