What do you think about sex ed?

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I am curious for your honest feedback.

Pregnancy, STDs on the Rise Again Among U.S. Teens

Birth rates among U.S. teens increased in 2006 and 2007, following large declines from 1991 to 2005, according to a new U.S. government study



U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers analyzed national data from 2002-2007. Among their findings:

About one-third of adolescents hadn't received instruction on methods of birth control before age 18.

In 2004, there were about 745,000 pregnancies among females younger than age 20. This included an estimated 16,000 pregnancies among girls aged 10 to 14.

Syphilis cases among young people aged 15 to 24 have increased in both males and females in recent years.

In 2006, about one million young people aged 10 to 24 were reported to have chlamydia, gonorrhea or syphilis. Nearly one-quarter of females aged 15 to 19, and 45 percent of females aged 20 to 24 had a human papillomavirus (HPV) infection during 2003-2004.

From 1997 to 2006, rates of AIDS cases among males aged 15 to 24 increased.

In 2006, the majority of new diagnoses of HIV infection among young people occurred among males and those aged 20 to 24.

From 2004 to 2006, about 100,000 females aged 10 to 24 visited a hospital emergency department for nonfatal sexual assault, including 30,000 females aged 10 to 14.

Pregnancy, STDs on the Rise Again Among U.S. Teens - ABC News

Is this partly attributable to abstinence only education? What might be leading to worse trends (STDs and etc) among teens?
 
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I thought this was going to be a really fun thread... Then I saw that last word, "ed". Darn it. Well, seeing as how you asked. I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to sex ed. Both of my kids are grown and left the nest long ago and are parents on their own. I would not have wanted some school teacher giving them the low down on sex. Sex ed, if the parents are responsible like they should be, is something that should be taught in the home. I think it should be a private matter so the morals and ethics that go along with sex could be taught by the parents along their own religious guidelines (if that would apply) or according to the values the parents want the kids to learn. This is just my opinion, but the school system has no business teaching kids this stuff.
 
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I thought this was going to be a really fun thread... Then I saw that last word, "ed". Darn it. Well, seeing as how you asked. I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to sex ed. Both of my kids are grown and left the nest long ago and are parents on their own. I would not have wanted some school teacher giving them the low down on sex. Sex ed, if the parents are responsible like they should be, is something that should be taught in the home. I think it should be a private matter so the morals and ethics that go along with sex could be taught by the parents along their own religious guidelines (if that would apply) or according to the values the parents want the kids to learn. This is just my opinion, but the school system has no business teaching kids this stuff.
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If STDs and pregnancies continue to rise, then does that mean that the schools should step in more? Is there a point at which a person changes their mind and says "this isn't working, our kids are getting sick because too many parents aren't teaching them how to protect against STDs."?

Sorry the thread isn't more fun. :)
 
Back when I was in school, the very basics were taught, and that's it. There was no "If you're going to do this, then you should do that." It was more "This is what happens when two people do this."

The very basics should be taught in school. All the "extras" should be taught at home by parents, and they should start teaching around the same time, IMO.
 
I think its important informatuon but I don't think too many kids are ignorant about what causes pregnancy. I think the statistics have less to do with the actual curriculum but more to do with more liberal attitudes toward sex in general. Are teenagers going to listen to their parents and their teachers during the heat of the moment? Of course not.And there is no shame anymore when it comes to teen pregnancy. Unwed motherhood in my district is celebrated like someone getting into Harvard. What an accomplishment!

I do like the fake screaming babies though. I'd like to see some stats on the effectiveness of those programs.
 
It is nothing more and nothing less than indoctrination

How is teaching kids how the reproductive system works an indoctrination? And into what, exactly?

LOL, do you really think that is all they teach them? Sorry Dis, but they teach them how to put a condom on a banana

Teaching biology is one thing

Sexual matters is up to the parents to teach their children, I did not need a teacher outside my family and a system of beurocrats and government officials overseeing what I already knew naturally. And could ask a parent if I had a question and I know, I know, what about the kids who don't have good parents, yada yada, strawman

I would NOT send my child to public school, if I had one of school age. I would home school my kid.
 
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It is nothing more and nothing less than indoctrination

How is teaching kids how the reproductive system works an indoctrination? And into what, exactly?

LOL, do you really think that is all they teach them? Sorry Dis, but they teach them how to put a condom on a banana

Teaching biology is one thing

Sexual matters is up to the parents to teach their children, I did not need a teacher outside my family and a system of beurocrats and government officials overseeing what I already knew naturally. And could ask a parent if I had a question and I know, I know, what about the kids who don't have good parents, yada yada, strawman

I would NOT send my child to public school, if I had one of school age. I would home school my kid.

But nobody's asking what it is.. They're asking if it should be taught. And yes.. The reproduction system should be studied in school. The rest, on the other hand...
 
Teacher leave them kids alone...another brick in the wall of socialism

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To be perfectly honest I think sex ed is a huge waste of everyone's time.

It should be taught the old fashioned way all morality issues are taught to Americans

Incipiently, via situation comedies aimed at children and people with very low IQs.

If they want to start teaching it earlier than early teens, then I suggest we add characters like Oscar the Herpes Simplex Monster, and Bert and Ernie Tertiary Siphilis Patients to Sesame Street cast personae
 
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It would be useful to know what the proportion of the kids who got the sex ed got the STDs and the teen pregnancies vs the group who did not. All we have is a statistic on the rise of a problem sex ed was meant to combat.

I kind of think the way sex ed was done in my time was the cause of the rise of homosexuality. All sex ed did for my generation was squick out the kids, as it was horribly clinical.

And since my generation was among the first to get it, it was a horrible failure. What was rare before became common after.

I do talk to my kids about it. But they find the discussion squicky. It is too uncool to hear about it from your very old man.


My main issue is they seem to be getting the same level of instruction in sex ed as they are getting in math, statistics and and english. The schools can't teach english, they can't teach math, and now we are going to have them teach sexual continence? No wonder the bellies of little girls are getting so big.
 
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sorry, but i think home schooling is the absolute worst thing u can do for ur kid-- most kids need the discipline of a school based environment and unless u'r home all the time u just can't make sure the kid keeps up with what he/she has to learn-- quote me stats. all u want but later in life when that child has to interact with others they won't have the foundation of socialization with their peers-- i think it stunts their development honestly-- to think that abstinence works is tough to believe as well-- young budding kids are "hard pressed to keep it in their pants" so to speak-- parents should start very early making sure that kids are not ashamed of their bodies and make sure they know how to respect one another-- i also don't see a lot wrong with making a child wait until say 17 or so to "date"-- it's when they have no guidence and discipline that they stray-- keep them away from all the biblical crap if u can as that will just make them want to rebel against those fairy tales when they are able-- nothing wrong with instilling a healthy fear of STD's either-- it still boggles my mind to hear of ANY unwanted pregnancies anymore in this nation-- there is simply no excuse for it other than a poor upbringing-- just my two cents-- Regards, probus
 
sorry, but i think home schooling is the absolute worst thing u can do for ur kid-- most kids need the discipline of a school based environment and unless u'r home all the time u just can't make sure the kid keeps up with what he/she has to learn-- quote me stats. all u want but later in life when that child has to interact with others they won't have the foundation of socialization with their peers-- i think it stunts their development honestly-- to think that abstinence works is tough to believe as well-- young budding kids are "hard pressed to keep it in their pants" so to speak-- parents should start very early making sure that kids are not ashamed of their bodies and make sure they know how to respect one another-- i also don't see a lot wrong with making a child wait until say 17 or so to "date"-- it's when they have no guidence and discipline that they stray-- keep them away from all the biblical crap if u can as that will just make them want to rebel against those fairy tales when they are able-- nothing wrong with instilling a healthy fear of STD's either-- it still boggles my mind to hear of ANY unwanted pregnancies anymore in this nation-- there is simply no excuse for it other than a poor upbringing-- just my two cents-- Regards, probus

I agree homeschooling isn't the best thing to do to your child. Now granted, I only have one actual example to go off of..

But, one of my employees homeschools her daughter.. Her daughter is almost 18 years old, has very few social skills, is always depressed, and doesn't seem to know much about the "in" things that are going on around her. She has very few friends, and doesn't know what to do with herself if they happen to not be available. I don't actually know much about the level of education she's at, but overall it doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
 
I am curious for your honest feedback.

Pregnancy, STDs on the Rise Again Among U.S. Teens

Birth rates among U.S. teens increased in 2006 and 2007, following large declines from 1991 to 2005, according to a new U.S. government study



U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers analyzed national data from 2002-2007. Among their findings:

About one-third of adolescents hadn't received instruction on methods of birth control before age 18.

In 2004, there were about 745,000 pregnancies among females younger than age 20. This included an estimated 16,000 pregnancies among girls aged 10 to 14.

Syphilis cases among young people aged 15 to 24 have increased in both males and females in recent years.

In 2006, about one million young people aged 10 to 24 were reported to have chlamydia, gonorrhea or syphilis. Nearly one-quarter of females aged 15 to 19, and 45 percent of females aged 20 to 24 had a human papillomavirus (HPV) infection during 2003-2004.

From 1997 to 2006, rates of AIDS cases among males aged 15 to 24 increased.

In 2006, the majority of new diagnoses of HIV infection among young people occurred among males and those aged 20 to 24.

From 2004 to 2006, about 100,000 females aged 10 to 24 visited a hospital emergency department for nonfatal sexual assault, including 30,000 females aged 10 to 14.

Pregnancy, STDs on the Rise Again Among U.S. Teens - ABC News

Is this partly attributable to abstinence only education? What might be leading to worse trends (STDs and etc) among teens?

I'm curious..how can it be attributed to "absintence only" education when "abstinence only" education doesn't exist except in tiny, isolated groups.

These increase is not in populations of home-schooled Christian kids. It's in the cities. And it's more evidence that making abortion available, teaching kids that it's okay to have sex because there's a "cure" for whatever results, and refusing to teach them any sense of responsibility has negative consequences. Not positive.
 
yeah dis, i used to work in my community library and they'd come in all the time-- a lot were very bright kids, some very knowledgeable too but they seemed very socially insecure-- ya gotta wonder how that's going to affect them in later life and not just the here and now-- Regards, probus
 

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