What do you expect of Billionaires being the leaders?

Do you think that a Billionaire from a wealthy family can relate-to/empathize with the common person

  • No

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 16 50.0%

  • Total voters
    32
There is no doubt that Musk is a good businessman. Having said that, he is a multi-billionaire already, why should we continue to help him get richer. How does that help US?

Musk creates jobs and opportunity for us.

His ideas work.
 
Trump is always looking to come up with the next big thing that people want...That's what a successful businessman does...That many of his products put forth do not sell is not for lack of trying....

So, tell me, do you look down of people that try different things? Or, do you think they are admirable....

For me, the person that tries over and over is admirable...It is the crux of how America became the inventor of the world.
Please show me ANYTHING that Trump has been successful at other than Real Estate.

You do know that knowledge of Real Estate is not something that helps a leader of nation be successful, don't you.

What is worse with Trump is that he is a narcissist and that means he never blames himself for mistakes made, meaning he does not learn and that means he will never learn how to be a leader.

You cannot be a leader if this is always happening to you:

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When are you Trumpers and Conservatives ever going to wake up to REALITY? we are in the 21st century and the world is there. If we aren't, we will fail.

It is pure and utter stupidity what Trump and the Conservatives are doing and it seems that none of you will ever wake up until Mother Nature steps in and forces you to learn.

I think it was Mother Nature that caused Trump to win this election. Reality needs to be felt before anything changes.

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Then why didn't they win?

Tells me that the people at Politico are delusional.

Then why didn't they win?

Oh the horror!

You speak of science, yet renounce centuries of biology?

Like losing?

No, that's only in your head....
I have one answer to your repeated statement about "why didn't they win". They didn't win because stupidity is on the increase in this nation.

Here is what happened a few years ago to someone that was picked by the people to lead them to something better than they had before. He won resoundedly and intelliegence lost:

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300 84. when Donald Trump’s angel wings melt too close to the sun, will the God of Abraham break catch him in his glorious arms?.


Glad it only took the U.S. 4 years to realize their mistake with Biden.
i. NotfooledbyW ccclxii. to 361.: What to watch: Still, by rewarding so many of his biggest donors and billionaire allies with plum postings, Trump could risk flying too close to the sun.

With every billionaire appointee comes a minefield of conflicts of interest and ethical concerns — exactly the kind of swampy conditions that Trump has vowed to drain.

The optics alone could turbo-charge the strain of populist left politics — championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — that characterizes America today as an "oligarchy."

The bottom line: Musk already has previewed the kind of clumsy messaging that could allow Democrats to paint Trump's billionaires as woefully out of touch.

"We have to reduce spending to live within our means," Musk — whose PAC spent nearly $200 million to help Trump get elected — declared at town halldays before the election.

"And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity," the world's richest man added. nfbw 241207 Vwdyeo00362


ii. ding ccxxxii. ccclxxxiv. to 362 & 364 : "A persistent mantra of blacks is that the Republican Party is the “party of the rich.” In fact, while there are some rich Republicans, most Republicans are average, hard working Americans from the middle of America. The truly rich are Democrats who reside mainly in big cities on the east and west coasts. Most notable are Billionaire Oprah Winfrey, Billionaire George Soros, Billionaire Warren Buffett, Billionaire Bill Gates of Microsoft, Billionaire, Billionaire Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, Billionaire Senator John Kerry, Millionaire Senator Ted Kennedy, Millionaire Senator Harry Reid, Millionaire Representative Nancy Pelosi, Millionaire former President Bill Clinton, and Millionaire President Barack Obama, as well as all of the millionaire Limousine Liberals in New York and Hollywood.". Frances Rice, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel, a lawyer and chairman of the National Black Republican Association. dvng 181004 Saidtz00132

iii. NotfooledbyW ccclxxxiv: Musk is promising immediate hardship for the working class and poor for the prospect of a musk and the billionaires promise of utopia.

I am proud to admit that I did not vote for that bullshit. nfbw 241207 Vwdyeo00384
 
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Please show me ANYTHING that Trump has been successful at other than Real Estate.

You do know that knowledge of Real Estate is not something that helps a leader of nation be successful, don't you.
Trump is a successful businessman, Obviously Americans felt that was what we needed at this time.
What is worse with Trump is that he is a narcissist and that means he never blames himself for mistakes made, meaning he does not learn and that means he will never learn how to be a leader.
Can you point to any President in modern times that hasn't been a narcissist to some degree? They would have to be, no?
You cannot be a leader if this is always happening to you:

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Irrelevant to the electorate. That's a democrat problem in messaging...
When are you Trumpers and Conservatives ever going to wake up to REALITY?
We are not the ones denying that Democrats lost this election....Nor are we the ones that believe we can still control DC come Jan 20....
we are in the 21st century and the world is there. If we aren't, we will fail.
Then accept your fate, and do better. It's the only way you'll have a chance.
It is pure and utter stupidity what Trump and the Conservatives are doing and it seems that none of you will ever wake up until Mother Nature steps in and forces you to learn.
What do you think is going to happen? A bolt of lightning? And you think we are not in the 21st century....gheeze! Do you still sacrifice to the Gods too?
I think it was Mother Nature that caused Trump to win this election. Reality needs to be felt before anything changes.
LOL....Reality is not in your favor here....
 
Trump is a successful businessman, Obviously Americans felt that was what we needed at this time.

Can you point to any President in modern times that hasn't been a narcissist to some degree? They would have to be, no?

Irrelevant to the electorate. That's a democrat problem in messaging...

We are not the ones denying that Democrats lost this election....Nor are we the ones that believe we can still control DC come Jan 20....

Then accept your fate, and do better. It's the only way you'll have a chance.

What do you think is going to happen? A bolt of lightning? And you think we are not in the 21st century....gheeze! Do you still sacrifice to the Gods too?

LOL....Reality is not in your favor here....
You live in your own fantasy world and it is not one I will visit. You are as blind by choice as anyone can be and not worth the time responding to. Bye
 
I have one answer to your repeated statement about "why didn't they win". They didn't win because stupidity is on the increase in this nation.

Here is what happened a few years ago to someone that was picked by the people to lead them to something better than they had before. He won resoundedly and intelliegence lost:

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Since I worry about our progressive liberals, here's an article for you....I hope you take it to heart....

 
You live in your own fantasy world and it is not one I will visit. You are as blind by choice as anyone can be and not worth the time responding to. Bye
:itsok: :eusa_doh::fu:Don't let the door smack you as you run away.....coward.
 
i. NotfooledbyW ccclxii. to 361.: What to watch: Still, by rewarding so many of his biggest donors and billionaire allies with plum postings, Trump could risk flying too close to the sun.

With every billionaire appointee comes a minefield of conflicts of interest and ethical concerns — exactly the kind of swampy conditions that Trump has vowed to drain.

The optics alone could turbo-charge the strain of populist left politics — championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — that characterizes America today as an "oligarchy."

The bottom line: Musk already has previewed the kind of clumsy messaging that could allow Democrats to paint Trump's billionaires as woefully out of touch.

"We have to reduce spending to live within our means," Musk — whose PAC spent nearly $200 million to help Trump get elected — declared at town halldays before the election.

"And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity," the world's richest man added. nfbw 241207 Vdytta00362


ii. ding ccxxxii. : "A persistent mantra of blacks is that the Republican Party is the “party of the rich.” In fact, while there are some rich Republicans, most Republicans are average, hard working Americans from the middle of America. The truly rich are Democrats who reside mainly in big cities on the east and west coasts. Most notable are Billionaire Oprah Winfrey, Billionaire George Soros, Billionaire Warren Buffett, Billionaire Bill Gates of Microsoft, Billionaire, Billionaire Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, Billionaire Senator John Kerry, Millionaire Senator Ted Kennedy, Millionaire Senator Harry Reid, Millionaire Representative Nancy Pelosi, Millionaire former President Bill Clinton, and Millionaire President Barack Obama, as well as all of the millionaire Limousine Liberals in New York and Hollywood.". Frances Rice, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel, a lawyer and chairman of the National Black Republican Association. dvng 181004 Saidtz00132

iii. Musk is promising immediate hardship for the working class and poor for the prospect of a musk and the billionaires promise of utopia.

I am proud to admit that I did not vote for that bullshit.

America voted against you and what you support.

Suck it up.
 
Since I worry about our progressive liberals, here's an article for you....I hope you take it to heart....

I am going to prove you wrong with your own words and articles

You article says:
1. Avoiding discussions
2. Not taking accountability
3. Refusing to apologize
4. Manipulating others
5. Not respecting boundaries
6. Being inconsistent


1. I never avoild a discussion unless the other party uses only words and cannot come up with data, statistics and facts to support those words
2) I take responsibility for my actions, given that I always supply data, statistics and facts with my statements. If PROVEN wrong using those, I take responsibility and apologize. Here on this message board that has not happened yet as no one has yet been able to prove me wrong using data, facts and statistics
3) I always apologize when PROVEN wrong, using data, statistics, and facts
4) I never try to manipulate anyone. I always give data, statistics, and facts and always say "you are entitled to your opinion". That is not manipulation of any kind.
5) I respect boundaries but on this message board there are none. Havng said that, I have put 33 people on ignore because they did not respect general boundaries of communication when all they did was insult and debase. It is the people here that do not respect any boundaries. I do respect the boundaries of morals, ethics, principles and humanity.
6) I am the most consistent person here. I go by and always offer data, statistics and facts and never vary from it. I rarely offer opinion. I am as consistent at they come.

Now let me turn this around.

Do you adhere or not follow your own article's guidelines?
 
:itsok: :eusa_doh::fu:Don't let the door smack you as you run away.....coward.
You lose J, I am totaly tired of trying to communicate with you and you offering no communication of data, statistics and facts back. All you offer is opinion and words and those are meaningless unless supported by data, statistics and facts. In other words, you are a TOTAL waste of time and that is not something I do. As such, you are the 3rd person I put on ignore for that reason.
 
300 84 are the billionaire angels flying over our heads, providential angels or vultures ascended from hell through the gate at Mar-a-Lago?

America voted against you

NotfooledbyW ccclxxxiv. : I’m an American and I didn’t vote against myself.

40% of the electorate did not vote. probably 90% of them are working middle class down through working poor and those in poverty and homeless.

I doubt they will blame themselves for not paying attention and when Mr shit, meets Mrs. fan at the kitchen table, when the Trump billionaire angels have fallen, I will put my money on those voteless idiots not blaming Joe Biden and Democrats.

That is, if we can survive that long under a government rule by the bozos and foreign agents that Trump wants to put in charge of our national security. #384
 
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I am going to prove you wrong with your own words and articles

You article says:
1. Avoiding discussions
2. Not taking accountability
3. Refusing to apologize
4. Manipulating others
5. Not respecting boundaries
6. Being inconsistent


1. I never avoild a discussion unless the other party uses only words and cannot come up with data, statistics and facts to support those words
2) I take responsibility for my actions, given that I always supply data, statistics and facts with my statements. If PROVEN wrong using those, I take responsibility and apologize. Here on this message board that has not happened yet as no one has yet been able to prove me wrong using data, facts and statistics
3) I always apologize when PROVEN wrong, using data, statistics, and facts
4) I never try to manipulate anyone. I always give data, statistics, and facts and always say "you are entitled to your opinion". That is not manipulation of any kind.
5) I respect boundaries but on this message board there are none. Havng said that, I have put 33 people on ignore because they did not respect general boundaries of communication when all they did was insult and debase. It is the people here that do not respect any boundaries. I do respect the boundaries of morals, ethics, principles and humanity.
6) I am the most consistent person here. I go by and always offer data, statistics and facts and never vary from it. I rarely offer opinion. I am as consistent at they come.

Now let me turn this around.

Do you adhere or not follow your own article's guidelines?
The cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.
 
You lose J, I am totaly tired of trying to communicate with you and you offering no communication of data, statistics and facts back. All you offer is opinion and words and those are meaningless unless supported by data, statistics and facts. In other words, you are a TOTAL waste of time and that is not something I do. As such, you are the 3rd person I put on ignore for that reason.
I thought you said you “put 33 people on ignore” so, was that a lie? Or is this?
 
You lose J, I am totaly tired of trying to communicate with you and you offering no communication of data, statistics and facts back. All you offer is opinion and words and those are meaningless unless supported by data, statistics and facts. In other words, you are a TOTAL waste of time and that is not something I do. As such, you are the 3rd person I put on ignore for that reason.
Then show us some data…that’ll be a first from you…
 
300 84 are the billionaire angels flying over our heads, providential angels or vultures ascended from hell through the gate at Mar-a-Lago?



NotfooledbyW ccclxxxiv. : I’m an American and I didn’t vote against myself.

40% of the electorate did not vote. probably 90% of them are working middle class down through working poor and those in poverty and homeless.

I doubt they will blame themselves for not paying attention and when Mr shit, meets Mrs. fan at the kitchen table, when the Trump billionaire angels have fallen, I will put my money on those voteless idiots not blaming Joe Biden and Democrats.

That is, if we can survive that long under a government rule by the bozos and foreign agents that Trump wants to put in charge of our national security. #384

Cool story.
 
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