What do you expect of Billionaires being the leaders?

[hadit]

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One of the very rare pieces of good news for working class Americans from the middle on down is that the polygamous marriage of Trump Mask Putin with the blessing of white evangelical biblical worldview Christianity that has sold out to the billionaire class, will now flip the narrative that billionaires are not evil.

Musk is evil.

Like I said, Orange Man Bad overrules all.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

300 62 too close to the sun

Like I said, Orange Man Bad overrules all.

NotfooledbyW ccclxii. to 361.: i’m sorry. I forgot Saint Donald Trump of the Republican Party. Sainthood can do no bad.

What could possibly go bad?

34 human beings with a net worth of $340 billion having a granted the opportunity to control the lives of 340 million Americans and essentially every human being on the planet

Is Trump flying too close to the sun with this crew?

Who will suffer when is fucking angel wings melt… if he is?

Business InsiderMeet the billionaires working with Trump on his second term4 hours ago

Dec 6, 2024. Politics & Policy
Trump's billionaires set to take government by storm. Zachary Basu

President-elect Trump has assembled an administration of unprecedented, mind-boggling wealth — smashing his own first-term record by billions of dollars.

That's even without counting the ballooning fortunes of his prized outside adviser and the world's richest man: Elon Musk.

Why it matters: It's not hyperbole to call this a government of billionaires. Whether it acts as a government for billionaires — as Democrats argue is inevitable — could test and potentially tarnish. Trump's populist legacy.

The big picture: Besides Trump, Musk and his fellow Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) head Vivek Ramaswamy, at least 11 billionaires will be serving key roles in the administration.

They've been picked to lead the departments of Treasury (Scott Bessent), Commerce (Howard Lutnick), Education (Linda McMahon), Interior (Doug Burgum), the Small Business Administration (Kelly Loeffler) and NASA (Jared Isaacman).

On Thursday night, Trump announcedthat tech investor David Sacks, an early executive at PayPal and top Musk ally, would serve as White House AI and crypto czar.

Financier Stephen Feinberg has been nominated for the No. 2 position at the Pentagon; Trump family in-laws Charles Kushner (ambassador to France) and Massad Boulos (Middle East adviser) were tapped for diplomatic roles alongside billionaire donor Warren Stephens (ambassador to the U.K.).

An additional four top appointees are hundred-millionaires: Celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz (Medicare and Medicaid administrator), Fiserv CEO Frank Bisignano (Social Security commissioner), real estate executive Steven Witkoff(Middle East envoy) and fracking CEO Chris Wright (Energy Department).

By the numbers: Trump's projected Cabinet alone is worth at least $10 billion, according to research by Axios and the nonprofit Americans for Tax Fairness — an estimate that likely undervalues the true total.

With Musk, Ramaswamy and other wealthy appointees included, the top of the Trump administration's net worth is likely higher than the GDP of hundreds of countries, including Finland, Chile and New Zealand.

President Biden's Cabinet, by comparison, was worth an estimated $118 million when he took office, according to Forbes.

Between the lines: Trump's gilded Cabinet is the product of an election in which billionaires spent like never before. in U.S. history — mostly on behalf of Republicans.

And yet it was Democrats who shed major support among working-class voters, suggesting Trump's populist message — and the aspirational riches he represents — once again were underestimated.

What to watch: Still, by rewarding so many of his biggest donors and billionaire allies with plum postings, Trump could risk flying too close to the sun.

With every billionaire appointee comes a minefield of conflicts of interest and ethical concerns — exactly the kind of swampy conditions that Trump has vowed to drain.

The optics alone could turbo-charge the strain of populist left politics — championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — that characterizes America today as an "oligarchy."

The bottom line: Musk already has previewed the kind of clumsy messaging that could allow Democrats to paint Trump's billionaires as woefully out of touch.

"We have to reduce spending to live within our means," Musk — whose PAC spent nearly $200 million to help Trump get elected — declared at town halldays before the election.

"And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity," the world's richest man added. nfbw 241207 Vdytta00362

 

[DukeU]

Those were examples gotten from Google. Nonetheless, the OP was not about Churchill nor any other person, but about the wealthy that were born from the wealthy not being empathic or knowing how to really address the issues of the poor and middle class, and no one has been able to "punk" me on that.

Elon Musk’s companies currently provide jobs to …​

Elon Musk recently shared a rather interesting update on Twitter — his companies now employ about 110,000 people worldwide. This is quite impressive considering that in the grand scheme of things, Tesla, SpaceX, and Musk’s other ventures are still just getting started.

 

[DukeU]

It may be but that does not mean that it is right. Ask the people in Venezuela if their opinion on choosing Chavez as president in 1998 was the right thing to do. He was released from prison and 2 years later he was voted in NATIONALLY as president and since then (26 years), every Venezuelan that voted for him (the majority) has been regretting their decision big time. Venezuela is a total disaster as a nation right now.

Glad it only took the U.S. 4 years to realize their mistake with Biden.

 

[Luckyone]

Glad it only took the U.S. 4 years to realize their mistake with Biden.

There was NO mistake with Biden. Across the board, things have improved over the past 3 years, meaning that progress (not regress) was occurring. This if FACT and if you cannot see it, you are blind.

This is not to say that things were great under Biden but reality is that the road was leading up and not down when he steps out of the picture.

You will then (in a short period of time) be able to see if that road continues up or turns down. My view is the latter.

 

[Luckyone]

Elon Musk’s companies currently provide jobs to …​

Elon Musk recently shared a rather interesting update on Twitter — his companies now employ about 110,000 people worldwide. This is quite impressive considering that in the grand scheme of things, Tesla, SpaceX, and Musk’s other ventures are still just getting started.

There is no doubt that Musk is a good businessman. Having said that, he is a multi-billionaire already, why should we continue to help him get richer. How does that help US?

 

[Moonglow]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

I expect them to act like poor white trash with a bigger expense account.

 

[Mr Natural]

Great idea!

People whose sole obsession in life is money leading the country.

 

[Luckyone]

300 62 too close to the sun


NotfooledbyW ccclxii. to 361.: i’m sorry. I forgot Saint Donald Trump of the Republican Party. Sainthood can do no bad.

What could possibly go bad?

34 human beings with a net worth of $340 billion having a granted the opportunity to control the lives of 340 million Americans and essentially every human being on the planet

Is Trump flying too close to the sun with this crew?

Who will suffer when is fucking angel wings melt… if he is?

Business InsiderMeet the billionaires working with Trump on his second term4 hours ago

Dec 6, 2024. Politics & Policy
Trump's billionaires set to take government by storm. Zachary Basu

President-elect Trump has assembled an administration of unprecedented, mind-boggling wealth — smashing his own first-term record by billions of dollars.

That's even without counting the ballooning fortunes of his prized outside adviser and the world's richest man: Elon Musk.

Why it matters: It's not hyperbole to call this a government of billionaires. Whether it acts as a government for billionaires — as Democrats argue is inevitable — could test and potentially tarnish. Trump's populist legacy.

The big picture: Besides Trump, Musk and his fellow Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) head Vivek Ramaswamy, at least 11 billionaires will be serving key roles in the administration.

They've been picked to lead the departments of Treasury (Scott Bessent), Commerce (Howard Lutnick), Education (Linda McMahon), Interior (Doug Burgum), the Small Business Administration (Kelly Loeffler) and NASA (Jared Isaacman).

On Thursday night, Trump announcedthat tech investor David Sacks, an early executive at PayPal and top Musk ally, would serve as White House AI and crypto czar.

Financier Stephen Feinberg has been nominated for the No. 2 position at the Pentagon; Trump family in-laws Charles Kushner (ambassador to France) and Massad Boulos (Middle East adviser) were tapped for diplomatic roles alongside billionaire donor Warren Stephens (ambassador to the U.K.).

An additional four top appointees are hundred-millionaires: Celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz (Medicare and Medicaid administrator), Fiserv CEO Frank Bisignano (Social Security commissioner), real estate executive Steven Witkoff(Middle East envoy) and fracking CEO Chris Wright (Energy Department).

By the numbers: Trump's projected Cabinet alone is worth at least $10 billion, according to research by Axios and the nonprofit Americans for Tax Fairness — an estimate that likely undervalues the true total.

With Musk, Ramaswamy and other wealthy appointees included, the top of the Trump administration's net worth is likely higher than the GDP of hundreds of countries, including Finland, Chile and New Zealand.

President Biden's Cabinet, by comparison, was worth an estimated $118 million when he took office, according to Forbes.

Between the lines: Trump's gilded Cabinet is the product of an election in which billionaires spent like never before. in U.S. history — mostly on behalf of Republicans.

And yet it was Democrats who shed major support among working-class voters, suggesting Trump's populist message — and the aspirational riches he represents — once again were underestimated.

What to watch: Still, by rewarding so many of his biggest donors and billionaire allies with plum postings, Trump could risk flying too close to the sun.

With every billionaire appointee comes a minefield of conflicts of interest and ethical concerns — exactly the kind of swampy conditions that Trump has vowed to drain.

The optics alone could turbo-charge the strain of populist left politics — championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — that characterizes America today as an "oligarchy."

The bottom line: Musk already has previewed the kind of clumsy messaging that could allow Democrats to paint Trump's billionaires as woefully out of touch.

"We have to reduce spending to live within our means," Musk — whose PAC spent nearly $200 million to help Trump get elected — declared at town halldays before the election.

"And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity," the world's richest man added. nfbw 241207 Vdytta00362

Hey, the Republicans are all about "feeding the rich" and "fuck the poor and middle class". They will now be able to have more success in doing that.

In this meme, the former will be the idea for the next 4 years and the latter part will be ignored

 

[Luckyone]

I expect them to act like poor white trash with a bigger expense account.

You mean like this?

 

[j-mac]

Actually that points out Trumps poor business skills. He was practically bankrupt before the Apprentice, which was a lucrative deal that made more than Trumps real estate deals.

Many successful people throughout history have failed more than once before ultimate success....

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It's always cute when the mindless sheeple who are owned by Soros, Zuckerberg and Gates whine about money in politics.

 

[j-mac]

Hey, the Republicans are all about "feeding the rich" and "fuck the poor and middle class". They will now be able to have more success in doing that.

In this meme, the former will be the idea for the next 4 years and the latter part will be ignored

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While that may have been true decades ago, today, the Democrats have turned their backs on the working man in favor of the rich.....

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/10/democrats-debate-reverse-slide-working-class-voters-00188641

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, IRS data shows - Washington Examiner

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, a flip from decades ago when it was the party of the poor and middle class. Democrats represented 65% of taxpayers with a household income of $500,000 or more in 2020, according to IRS data, while 74% of taxpayers in Republican districts have household...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Luckyone]

Many successful people throughout history have failed more than once before ultimate success....

but not this much

 

[j-mac]

but not this much

View attachment 1051158

Trump is always looking to come up with the next big thing that people want...That's what a successful businessman does...That many of his products put forth do not sell is not for lack of trying....

So, tell me, do you look down of people that try different things? Or, do you think they are admirable....

For me, the person that tries over and over is admirable...It is the crux of how America became the inventor of the world.

 

[Contumacious]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

Yet another garbage irrelevant thread by Unlucky one.

He did not , and could not, explain the reason in a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC Billionaires can not be President but socialist community organizers can

 

[Luckyone]

While that may have been true decades ago, today, the Democrats have turned their backs on the working man in favor of the rich.....

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/10/democrats-debate-reverse-slide-working-class-voters-00188641

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, IRS data shows - Washington Examiner

Democrats are the party of the wealthy, a flip from decades ago when it was the party of the poor and middle class. Democrats represented 65% of taxpayers with a household income of $500,000 or more in 2020, according to IRS data, while 74% of taxpayers in Republican districts have household...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Your article says it all, if you read and interpret it correctly.

The Democrats have done a better job in improving themselves than the Republicans have. What does that tell you? What it tells me is that Democrats in general are more intelligent and have more common sense than Republicans. The Republicans are Conservatives that want to live (and have success) like their ancestors did (before AI, before the industrial revolution, before science improved everything). Unfortunately, to even survive in this day and age, one has to learn and embrace what science and learning is about and stop living in the past. In simple words, Liberals are doing better than Conservatives and simply because their brains are open to new things.

This is where the Republican party wants us to be

 

[j-mac]

Yet another garbage irrelevant thread by Unlucky one.

He did not , and could not, explain the reason in a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC Billionaires can not be President but socialist community organizers can

Makes me wonder how his reaction would be if say a Zukerberg or a Reid Hastings were to run for President....

 

[DukeU]

There was NO mistake with Biden. Across the board, things have improved over the past 3 years, meaning that progress (not regress) was occurring. This if FACT and if you cannot see it, you are blind.

This is not to say that things were great under Biden but reality is that the road was leading up and not down when he steps out of the picture.

You will then (in a short period of time) be able to see if that road continues up or turns down. My view is the latter.

America voted otherwise.

 

[j-mac]

Your article says it all, if you read and interpret it correctly.

The Democrats have done a better job in improving themselves than the Republicans have.

Then why didn't they win?

What does that tell you?

Tells me that the people at Politico are delusional.

What it tells me is that Democrats in general are more intelligent and have more common sense than Republicans.

Then why didn't they win?

The Republicans are Conservatives that want to live (and have success) like their ancestors did (before AI, before the industrial revolution, before science improved everything).

Oh the horror!

Unfortunately, to even survive in this day and age, one has to learn and embrace what science and learning is about and stop living in the past.

You speak of science, yet renounce centuries of biology?

In simple words, Liberals are doing better than Conservatives and simply because their brains are open to new things.

Like losing?

This is where the Republican party wants us to be

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No, that's only in your head....