What Do They See In America?

[zeke]

They also come here to get jobs and send the money back home...and they can, since they don't pay taxes and are not in the books. Once enough funds are sent home, they urge family to come join them and it starts all over again.

That's another thing that is not talked about enough. These people are not coming here to be immersed in America, they're coming here to take jobs that FOREVER will be at slave wages as long as there is this endless supply of slave labor. And the money they do earn, much of the time ends up where they come from.
These are not like immigrants of the past that came here to be Americans, learn the common language, and be part of the system that made this country great.

Yea they are coming here to hump shingles on a roof for 100 dollars a day. And that is excellent money for them. Or throw hod for 100 bucks. ( I guarantee you that YOU personally would not do either job for 100 bucks for a 10 to 12 hour day.)

Then they do what other immigrants have always done. They share housing, share food costs, share transportation costs etc. All so they can do what Americans used to do; take care of their families the best way they can.

I have worked with poor white people, poor black people and poor brown people. The brown people will work their ass off for 100 dollars a day. Every day. They always show up ready to work. Can't say that about all the other poor I have worked with.

Damn the immigrants for making poor Americans look bad.

 

[LoneLaugher]

They also come here to get jobs and send the money back home...and they can, since they don't pay taxes and are not in the books. Once enough funds are sent home, they urge family to come join them and it starts all over again.

That's another thing that is not talked about enough. These people are not coming here to be immersed in America, they're coming here to take jobs that FOREVER will be at slave wages as long as there is this endless supply of slave labor. And the money they do earn, much of the time ends up where they come from.
These are not like immigrants of the past that came here to be Americans, learn the common language, and be part of the system that made this country great.

Yea they are coming here to hump shingles on a roof for 100 dollars a day. And that is excellent money for them. Or throw hod for 100 bucks. ( I guarantee you that YOU personally would not do either job for 100 bucks for a 10 to 12 hour day.)

Then they do what other immigrants have always done. They share housing, share food costs, share transportation costs etc. All so they can do what Americans used to do; take care of their families the best way they can.

I have worked with poor white people, poor black people and poor brown people. The brown people will work their ass off for 100 dollars a day. Every day. They always show up ready to work. Can't say that about all the other poor I have worked with.

Damn the immigrants for making poor Americans look bad.

You left out the part about picking up the free big screen TV's and lobster dinners. How convenient of you.

 

[Seawytch]

Freebies? That's the best you morons can come up with?

What freebies do current illegal aliens get in America?

Well, if you're a Honduran 9 year old, you get treated by crap by the same people that would claim we are a Christian Nation.

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,

 

[Tank]

Gee, I wonder what it is that America has that all the latin countries don't have?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What Do They See In America?

What they see in America is what you and most others on the right fear and despise: diversity, dissent, and the right to individual liberty.

 

[Moonglow]

I just thought of something. Is it because America is exceptional that those immigrants are coming here in the first place? So, what do they see in America that Obama doesn't? It's sad that foreigners and illegal aliens have more pride in America that the President does right now. Frankly, they see more promise in this nation than Obama does.

Think about that one, long and hard.

They came for jobs, the ones you refuse to take...Making you an idle wench with a bad 'tude..

 

[Moonglow]

Gee, I wonder what it is that America has that all the latin countries don't have?

Stability, wealth, a gov. that is better than their own. A chance to live above poverty...

 

[Tank]

Gee, I wonder what it is that America has that all the latin countries don't have?

Stability, wealth, a gov. that is better than their own. A chance to live above poverty...

How come the latin people can't do these things too?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Exactly, DD. They come here to take jobs, get a free education, free medical, free whatever they can...and every cent of the cash that crosses their palms goes STRAIGHT to mexico or Honduras or El Salvador and that is a lot of cash since there are no taxes, and if they are working 3 jobs under the table because they are illegal and the boss knows it. That cash does not go back into our system. It goes to another country.

This fails as a hasty generalization fallacy.

Since the Foundation Era immigrants have come to America for all manner of reasons: economic, political, religious, and personal – most often as a combination of these reasons, and more.

 

[Moonglow]

They also come here to get jobs and send the money back home...and they can, since they don't pay taxes and are not in the books. Once enough funds are sent home, they urge family to come join them and it starts all over again.

That's another thing that is not talked about enough. These people are not coming here to be immersed in America, they're coming here to take jobs that FOREVER will be at slave wages as long as there is this endless supply of slave labor. And the money they do earn, much of the time ends up where they come from.
These are not like immigrants of the past that came here to be Americans, learn the common language, and be part of the system that made this country great.

Yea they are coming here to hump shingles on a roof for 100 dollars a day. And that is excellent money for them. Or throw hod for 100 bucks. ( I guarantee you that YOU personally would not do either job for 100 bucks for a 10 to 12 hour day.)

Then they do what other immigrants have always done. They share housing, share food costs, share transportation costs etc. All so they can do what Americans used to do; take care of their families the best way they can.

I have worked with poor white people, poor black people and poor brown people. The brown people will work their ass off for 100 dollars a day. Every day. They always show up ready to work. Can't say that about all the other poor I have worked with.

Damn the immigrants for making poor Americans look bad.

I was a mason contractor and had no problem/problems with brown and white laborers..Your spite is most depressing

 

[Moonglow]

Gee, I wonder what it is that America has that all the latin countries don't have?

Stability, wealth, a gov. that is better than their own. A chance to live above poverty...

How come the latin people can't do these things too?

They have corrupt politicians.

 

[ShackledNation]

Exactly, DD. They come here to take jobs, get a free education, free medical, free whatever they can...and every cent of the cash that crosses their palms goes STRAIGHT to mexico or Honduras or El Salvador and that is a lot of cash since there are no taxes, and if they are working 3 jobs under the table because they are illegal and the boss knows it. That cash does not go back into our system. It goes to another country.

1. Take jobs? No. They create jobs. If they were not here to do them, they simply would not exist. The lower prices they allow for further gives U.S. citizens more disposable income, allowing for us to spend money on other things and thus stimulate those areas of the economy as well.

2. Free education? For immigrants with children, this is not entirely false. Public education is given to all children, regardless of status. But the larger reason is always for the parents to find work so they can better support their family. Educating the children is better than not, for it gives them more opportunities to work and less reason to join a gang.

3. Free medical? Not really. They can use emergency room services, but that is about it. Regardless, there is no evidence they would stop coming here if they got no medical assistance. The driving factor is reunion with families and working for a better life or escaping violence.

4. Every cent goes back to the home country? Really? Nope. The vast majority pay taxes, and most of their money is spent right here in the United States. Immigrants have to pay rent, pay for food, gas, and all the other basic necessities just like everyone else. Saying every cent goes back home is blatantly false. Furthermore, unless USD are easily circulated in their home countries, they will have to be converted. Ultimately, the dollars will likely come back to the US in the form of investment, or by buying US exports.

 

[Tank]

Stability, wealth, a gov. that is better than their own. A chance to live above poverty...

How come the latin people can't do these things too?

They have corrupt politicians.

So latin people shouldn't be politicians?

 

[Moonglow]

How come the latin people can't do these things too?

They have corrupt politicians.

So latin people shouldn't be politicians?

Seems like their entire history after throwing of Spain has been like that..Know you know why the US has periodically up to the 1930's with the "Good Neighbor" policy, interefered and even ran places like Nicaragua..

 

[ShackledNation]

How come the latin people can't do these things too?

They have corrupt politicians.

So latin people shouldn't be politicians?

No, that's just what happens when the US overthrows democratically elected leaders and instills puppet governments throughout the region or orchestrates militarized coups. And that's without even touching the effects of U.S. drug consumption and the U.S. war on drugs.

 

[Againsheila]

It's likely she'll get cancer and die a terrible death.

Don't be ridiculous.

Read up on Fukishima. We are even in danger, imagine how much worse that danger is there.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So, they have the wrong view of America then. Perhaps if they wanted a better life they would come here legally. Who, then, is responsible for instilling such a view?

They can't. It could take up to 20 years for them to get here legally. In that time they U.S. war on drugs may have already killed them.

So, people shouldn't have to expend some sort of effort in becoming a citizen?

I couldn't help but notice by your avatar that you are a Voluntaryist. I am a libertarian, and if libertarianism had a lunatic fringe, voluntaryism would be it.

 

[Againsheila]

I don't understand why Obama does not cut the shit and anex Central America to the USA.


He is doing that now in a sense anyway...isn't he


Change and hope right?

!@#$%^&**()()

We once held all of Mexico, we flew our flag over Mexico city. The president gave it back. He didn't think we could handle 1/3 of our citizens being Hispanic. What changed?

 

[Katzndogz]

The Drug Wars have killed nearly 100,000 in Mexico, Central and South America in a little over a decade.

That's called doing the job Americans won't do.

 

[Againsheila]

Obama is responsible for giving them all the impression that this is the land of the freebies. They bypass so many countries to come here. In the past, many legal immigrants and refugees knew this was the best place to be because they had opportunities and freedom here. Illegals will take whatever they can get and they see us as an easy target.

Of course, the liberals would prefer that we are more like the European countries when they are done transforming us. Funny that the latest illegals took the trip to Mexico before coming in illegally. Must have been expensive to travel that far when they could have gone to country that were much closer to seek refuge.

What really irks me is all those illegals coming here say we have no right to go the their countries. In fact, they claim this land is theirs and that we should leave.