What do the neo-Zionists believe will happen?

How does your state law apply in illegally occupied territory? It ain't your state to apply ANY law!

But hey, that's just Israeli arrogance... 'Poor persecuted Jews' allowed to do whatever the fuck they want then screaming 'anti-semite' should anyone point out the obvious!

Hopefully THAT is simple enough for you!

The state well applies to them, because the population holds citizenship and blue ID. Those who hold blue ID and citizenship are Israelis and the state views them as inside it's borders.

International law doesn't apply here, since the settlers are individuals.

And Anti-semitism is part of the problem, but not all of it. The real problem is the thinking that the Palestinians are allowed to massacre anyone they want any time they want, since they live under 'occupation'. And the irony of this situation is that, those who believe Palestinians have the right to kill babies, mothers, elders, are the same ones waving the flag of "Human Rights".

Remember how 'individuals' were highlighted by 'ID' tags in Germany? I'm sure you don't want to go down that road...

Illegally occupied territory does NOT fall into Israel's borders, Ii's not Israeli territory!... Unless you are the Israeli government of course... And let's not forget it is ONLY Israel that considers this...

Like it or not "International Law" DOES apply here...

Trucking down the road of whether Palestinians have the right to commit murder waving the flag of "human rights" is not relevant... Though I must say that you are now mixing your own argument between "individuals" and "state"...

Long live Israel... I strongly believe in Israel... A 'homeland' for Jews... We ALL deserve a 'homeland'...

What I don't believe in expansionist Israel, I don't believe in the 'Greater Israel'...

Live in Israel, live in peace... Accept that "International Law" exists and that Israel is in breach of these laws..

Stop the oppression of Palestinian "individuals"...

I support the demise, as soon as possible please, of Hamas and a search for a road for peace...

My concern is that Israel is not willing to search for that road... I care not about historical attempts, I care about the future attempts!

Israel is now less willing to go down that road, taking to mind that Israelis are being murdered now each day, twice a day.

So now the terrotories as viewed as Israel's with for a greater Israel? Please tell me you see the irony of this. Judea and Samaria are the original lands of the Jews, they;re called JUDEA named after those who inhabited them. It's not 'greater' Israel, it's THE Israel. Many Jews would have prefered the original "West Bank" over Tel Aviv and Hertzliyya, every day,

Get over the "history" and get into the 21st century!

The same old zionist mantra 'It used to be ours' doesn't work!

Should EVERY country adopt the same mentality and take back what USED to be theirs?

I don't need to tell you where that would lead!
Stop having a hissyfit will ya? The title of this thread is "what do neo-Zionists believe will happen" and it looks like the Pali Nazi club is very upset when they hear the answer, because it's already happening on the ground.

You are always good for a laugh Roodboy...

No hissyfit here, just good old fashioned honesty.... You should try it some day!

I always find the use of the word "Nazi" as some kind of insult to Palestinians evidence of your lack of basic intelligence... You are aware of what a "Nazi" is and what it stands for? :cuckoo:
 
The state well applies to them, because the population holds citizenship and blue ID. Those who hold blue ID and citizenship are Israelis and the state views them as inside it's borders.

International law doesn't apply here, since the settlers are individuals.

And Anti-semitism is part of the problem, but not all of it. The real problem is the thinking that the Palestinians are allowed to massacre anyone they want any time they want, since they live under 'occupation'. And the irony of this situation is that, those who believe Palestinians have the right to kill babies, mothers, elders, are the same ones waving the flag of "Human Rights".

Remember how 'individuals' were highlighted by 'ID' tags in Germany? I'm sure you don't want to go down that road...

Illegally occupied territory does NOT fall into Israel's borders, Ii's not Israeli territory!... Unless you are the Israeli government of course... And let's not forget it is ONLY Israel that considers this...

Like it or not "International Law" DOES apply here...

Trucking down the road of whether Palestinians have the right to commit murder waving the flag of "human rights" is not relevant... Though I must say that you are now mixing your own argument between "individuals" and "state"...

Long live Israel... I strongly believe in Israel... A 'homeland' for Jews... We ALL deserve a 'homeland'...

What I don't believe in expansionist Israel, I don't believe in the 'Greater Israel'...

Live in Israel, live in peace... Accept that "International Law" exists and that Israel is in breach of these laws..

Stop the oppression of Palestinian "individuals"...

I support the demise, as soon as possible please, of Hamas and a search for a road for peace...

My concern is that Israel is not willing to search for that road... I care not about historical attempts, I care about the future attempts!

Israel is now less willing to go down that road, taking to mind that Israelis are being murdered now each day, twice a day.

So now the terrotories as viewed as Israel's with for a greater Israel? Please tell me you see the irony of this. Judea and Samaria are the original lands of the Jews, they;re called JUDEA named after those who inhabited them. It's not 'greater' Israel, it's THE Israel. Many Jews would have prefered the original "West Bank" over Tel Aviv and Hertzliyya, every day,

Get over the "history" and get into the 21st century!

The same old zionist mantra 'It used to be ours' doesn't work!

Should EVERY country adopt the same mentality and take back what USED to be theirs?

I don't need to tell you where that would lead!
Stop having a hissyfit will ya? The title of this thread is "what do neo-Zionists believe will happen" and it looks like the Pali Nazi club is very upset when they hear the answer, because it's already happening on the ground.

You are always good for a laugh Roodboy...

No hissyfit here, just good old fashioned honesty.... You should try it some day!

I always find the use of the word "Nazi" as some kind of insult to Palestinians evidence of your lack of basic intelligence... You are aware of what a "Nazi" is and what it stands for? :cuckoo:
You're aware of the who the Mufti was and the role he played? So let's quit while we're ahead. You guys are having a hissyfit. Israel is slowly but surely conquering the West Bank demographically, and the Palestinian leadership is still in this La La Land mentality of the destruction of the Jewish state. The window will close soon and in two to three generations annexation of the West Bank will be all but a formality. By then the Egyptian army will invade Gaza and annex it for security purposes. That's what I think will happen and it's already unfolding before us. Hissyfit all that you want!
 
The state well applies to them, because the population holds citizenship and blue ID. Those who hold blue ID and citizenship are Israelis and the state views them as inside it's borders.

International law doesn't apply here, since the settlers are individuals.

And Anti-semitism is part of the problem, but not all of it. The real problem is the thinking that the Palestinians are allowed to massacre anyone they want any time they want, since they live under 'occupation'. And the irony of this situation is that, those who believe Palestinians have the right to kill babies, mothers, elders, are the same ones waving the flag of "Human Rights".

Remember how 'individuals' were highlighted by 'ID' tags in Germany? I'm sure you don't want to go down that road...

Illegally occupied territory does NOT fall into Israel's borders, Ii's not Israeli territory!... Unless you are the Israeli government of course... And let's not forget it is ONLY Israel that considers this...

Like it or not "International Law" DOES apply here...

Trucking down the road of whether Palestinians have the right to commit murder waving the flag of "human rights" is not relevant... Though I must say that you are now mixing your own argument between "individuals" and "state"...

Long live Israel... I strongly believe in Israel... A 'homeland' for Jews... We ALL deserve a 'homeland'...

What I don't believe in expansionist Israel, I don't believe in the 'Greater Israel'...

Live in Israel, live in peace... Accept that "International Law" exists and that Israel is in breach of these laws..

Stop the oppression of Palestinian "individuals"...

I support the demise, as soon as possible please, of Hamas and a search for a road for peace...

My concern is that Israel is not willing to search for that road... I care not about historical attempts, I care about the future attempts!
What I will never understand is why people who support the Palestinian cause believe them to be exactly the same as the Israelis. People like to refer to the Israelis as "European invaders". Good. That region needs a hell of a lot more European invaders. Europeans aren't better than Arabs, but European culture is better than Arab culture. It's not that one is perfect and the other is evil. It's just that America and the modern democracies which followed in our footsteps are better than the governments that preceded them.

Israel is such a government. Deeply flawed, as all government are, but different from the pathetic attempts at government that exist in the other countries of the Middle East. Despicable theocracies and autocracies. The Palestinians are the worst off, a fractured people without a government at all. How is this the fault of the Israelis? The Israelis can't bring the Palestinians into modernity. Only a leader from the Palestinians could do that, and only when the culture as a whole has progressed far enough to allow that to happen. As the failure of the Arab spring shows, the people of the region are not yet ready.

Does you fucked up logic apply to EVERY country?

Don't like someone's "culture" then it's ok to invade them?

Oh wait, isn't that American Foreign Policy!

Well then, European culture is far superior to American culture... Europeans better invade the US then!
Do you bring the same fucked up reading comprehension skills to EVERY post you read?

I said nothing about invasions or the justification of invasions.

Yes, Enlightenment philosophy and the systems of government derived from those principles are better than any other system of government. Far, far better than the worthless theocracies and autocracies which constitute all the governments of the Middle East, except for Israel.

We're all savages. Some of us are a little less savage. These small differences are not unimportant. In fact, there is nothing on this earth that's more important. These small differences are why we treat gay people better. Not perfectly, but better. It's why we treat women better. It's why we treat religious minorities better.

I repeat, I do not understand why people regard the Palestinians and the Israelis as exactly the same.

What? You didn't mention the word "invaders"?

Really?

You lie yet it is there for everyone to read?!

Not very smart are you!
I said other people refer to them as invaders. Not me. I do not regard the Israelis as invaders and I offered no justification for "invasion". European ideas are the real invaders. They will destroy tribalism eventually.

If you're so smart (which you have not demonstrated in the slightest) then answer my question. Why do you regard Palestinian culture and Israeli culture to be equally advanced? Why are Israelis the embodiment of evil and the Palestinians a bunch of boy scouts? Why pick the Palestinians to be your "pet cause"?
 
Remember how 'individuals' were highlighted by 'ID' tags in Germany? I'm sure you don't want to go down that road...

Illegally occupied territory does NOT fall into Israel's borders, Ii's not Israeli territory!... Unless you are the Israeli government of course... And let's not forget it is ONLY Israel that considers this...

Like it or not "International Law" DOES apply here...

Trucking down the road of whether Palestinians have the right to commit murder waving the flag of "human rights" is not relevant... Though I must say that you are now mixing your own argument between "individuals" and "state"...

Long live Israel... I strongly believe in Israel... A 'homeland' for Jews... We ALL deserve a 'homeland'...

What I don't believe in expansionist Israel, I don't believe in the 'Greater Israel'...

Live in Israel, live in peace... Accept that "International Law" exists and that Israel is in breach of these laws..

Stop the oppression of Palestinian "individuals"...

I support the demise, as soon as possible please, of Hamas and a search for a road for peace...

My concern is that Israel is not willing to search for that road... I care not about historical attempts, I care about the future attempts!

Israel is now less willing to go down that road, taking to mind that Israelis are being murdered now each day, twice a day.

So now the terrotories as viewed as Israel's with for a greater Israel? Please tell me you see the irony of this. Judea and Samaria are the original lands of the Jews, they;re called JUDEA named after those who inhabited them. It's not 'greater' Israel, it's THE Israel. Many Jews would have prefered the original "West Bank" over Tel Aviv and Hertzliyya, every day,

Get over the "history" and get into the 21st century!

The same old zionist mantra 'It used to be ours' doesn't work!

Should EVERY country adopt the same mentality and take back what USED to be theirs?

I don't need to tell you where that would lead!
Stop having a hissyfit will ya? The title of this thread is "what do neo-Zionists believe will happen" and it looks like the Pali Nazi club is very upset when they hear the answer, because it's already happening on the ground.

You are always good for a laugh Roodboy...

No hissyfit here, just good old fashioned honesty.... You should try it some day!

I always find the use of the word "Nazi" as some kind of insult to Palestinians evidence of your lack of basic intelligence... You are aware of what a "Nazi" is and what it stands for? :cuckoo:
You're aware of the who the Mufti was and the role he played? So let's quit while we're ahead. You guys are having a hissyfit. Israel is slowly but surely conquering the West Bank demographically, and the Palestinian leadership is still in this La La Land mentality of the destruction of the Jewish state. The window will close soon and in two to three generations annexation of the West Bank will be all but a formality. By then the Egyptian army will invade Gaza and annex it for security purposes. That's what I think will happen and it's already unfolding before us. Hissyfit all that you want!
You're aware of the who the Mufti was and the role he played?​

He was one man living in exile. At that time did have any real influence on Palestinians?
 
Israel has one of the strongest armies in the Middle-East.

Yes indeed, which makes the "security" excuses for illegally occupying territory nonsense!

If Israel has such strategy, it'll be the last-last resort, anyway. We have young men and womem who will do anything to protect their homelands with their lives.

Well, I think we are all aware of the Samson Option...

Last resort indeed!


"Yes indeed, which makes the "security" excuses for illegally occupying territory nonsense!"

One thing has nothing to do with the other. The fact we're strong doesn't mean the danger isn't there do deal with.
 
I am getting a little tired of presenting fact. I am now curious to understand what our resident Zionists believe will happen, or hope will happen, in the territory now controlled by Jews in Israel, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.

Do they believe that Jews will be able to rule over all the Gentiles now under their control indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to disengage from Gaza and rule over the rest of the Gentiles indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to evict, or otherwise eliminate, all the Gentiles now under their control and rule an exclusively Jewish population indefinitely.

Any other solution.
It's unfortunate that you choose to present some worthwhile questions in such an inflammatory manner.

Zionist is a term that makes no sense in a modern context. Neo-Zionist makes even less sense. I acknowledge that there are anti-Zionists, people who have never recognized Israel's right to exist and who would dance with joy if it were destroyed.

What I hope will happen is simple. The two sides negotiate in good faith and share their worthless slices of desert in peace and tranquility. What will happen? Nothing. There's nothing to happen. Settlements are irrelevant. Israel has shown its willingness to dismantle settlements. What good did it do? They've shown a willingness to cede land. What good did it do?

So they've settled into a strategy of kicking butt and dividing their enemy to weaken them. Meanwhile, the demographic time-bomb keeps ticking away, so the status quo cannot possibly be maintained for too long.


Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser
 
It's unfortunate that you choose to present some worthwhile questions in such an inflammatory manner.

Zionist is a term that makes no sense in a modern context. Neo-Zionist makes even less sense. I acknowledge that there are anti-Zionists, people who have never recognized Israel's right to exist and who would dance with joy if it were destroyed.

What I hope will happen is simple. The two sides negotiate in good faith and share their worthless slices of desert in peace and tranquility. What will happen? Nothing. There's nothing to happen. Settlements are irrelevant. Israel has shown its willingness to dismantle settlements. What good did it do? They've shown a willingness to cede land. What good did it do?

So they've settled into a strategy of kicking butt and dividing their enemy to weaken them. Meanwhile, the demographic time-bomb keeps ticking away, so the status quo cannot possibly be maintained for too long.


Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

"Zionism is a Terrorist Organization"
Can you define that better?

Also Steve, please confirm that you are Steve and it's not your friend that is posting.
 
Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

"Zionism is a Terrorist Organization"
Can you define that better?

Also Steve, please confirm that you are Steve and it's not your friend that is posting.
Sure,this is just one of many.......you will note that the Irgun emblem is similar to the ISIS emblem,another Terrorist Organization who act in the similar manner to the Zionist Terrorists....Irgun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You will note that the worst and most violent Commander(Leader) of Irgun 1943-1948, Menachem Begin,went on to become Prime Minister of Israel(says it all really).These Zionists have a shameful past....present and future,as we all know and so do you.steve
 
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It's unfortunate that you choose to present some worthwhile questions in such an inflammatory manner.

Zionist is a term that makes no sense in a modern context. Neo-Zionist makes even less sense. I acknowledge that there are anti-Zionists, people who have never recognized Israel's right to exist and who would dance with joy if it were destroyed.

What I hope will happen is simple. The two sides negotiate in good faith and share their worthless slices of desert in peace and tranquility. What will happen? Nothing. There's nothing to happen. Settlements are irrelevant. Israel has shown its willingness to dismantle settlements. What good did it do? They've shown a willingness to cede land. What good did it do?

So they've settled into a strategy of kicking butt and dividing their enemy to weaken them. Meanwhile, the demographic time-bomb keeps ticking away, so the status quo cannot possibly be maintained for too long.


Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

Are you high?
 
Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

"Zionism is a Terrorist Organization"
Can you define that better?

Also Steve, please confirm that you are Steve and it's not your friend that is posting.

Or please get sober.
 
I am getting a little tired of presenting fact. I am now curious to understand what our resident Zionists believe will happen, or hope will happen, in the territory now controlled by Jews in Israel, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.

Do they believe that Jews will be able to rule over all the Gentiles now under their control indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to disengage from Gaza and rule over the rest of the Gentiles indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to evict, or otherwise eliminate, all the Gentiles now under their control and rule an exclusively Jewish population indefinitely.

Any other solution.

If the current influx of mostly Modern Orthodox Jews continues, civilized non-Jews will be treated rather nicely as per the Torah's various commandments to treat non-Jews with respect.
Of course, I presume you missed those verses in Catholic School.

What does that mean? There are already more non-Jews under Jewish control/rule than Jews. Will non-Jews be allowed to vote?





They already can in the elections for the country they are citizens of, but I forget that hamas and fatah don't want anymore elections as they will lose their nice little earners. When will you be pushing for them to vote in American elections seeing as America once occupied part of the laqnd ?
 
I am getting a little tired of presenting fact. I am now curious to understand what our resident Zionists believe will happen, or hope will happen, in the territory now controlled by Jews in Israel, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.

Do they believe that Jews will be able to rule over all the Gentiles now under their control indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to disengage from Gaza and rule over the rest of the Gentiles indefinitely?

Do they believe that they will be able to evict, or otherwise eliminate, all the Gentiles now under their control and rule an exclusively Jewish population indefinitely.

Any other solution.

If the current influx of mostly Modern Orthodox Jews continues, civilized non-Jews will be treated rather nicely as per the Torah's various commandments to treat non-Jews with respect.
Of course, I presume you missed those verses in Catholic School.

What does that mean? There are already more non-Jews under Jewish control/rule than Jews. Will non-Jews be allowed to vote?

By Biblical standards, the current mob would be removed and compensated.
Vote for what?
Absent a court of 70 Rabbis, there is no other way to run Israel than through proper representation.

What does that mean? Will the Jews limit voting to Jews? Try to be clear as to what you think will happen.






Why should the Palestinians be given a right that no other group has in the whole world. They are not citizens of Israel so by what legal process could they have a vote in the countries running
 
Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

Are you high?
No but Zionist Shits are...Zionism=Death Loser
 
Zionism is more relevant today than it has ever been........and is very much a term to be acknowledged today in a very real sense.....this organization who have a history of Terrorism of the worst kind,today have managed to convince some Jews that they are the natural bearers of Judaism,they have managed to entwine themselves in giving people the idea that THEY are the purveyors of all things Jewish........They Are Not.......The Ultra Jews,the Secular Jews detest them...............The world has witnessed their behaviour over the decades and clearly realize what type of organization they are......they always spout like you "The Anti-Semitic/Zionist" cry but this is merely a diversion to create Guilt in others for them to not criticise them.....the Zionists,you can pretend Zionism means nothing when in fact they have such a terrorist past and collaboration with the Nazis,to mention just a couple.

Your treatment of the Palestinians is a shame and guilt you carry...................I do not use inflammatory statements at all,but just the truth and facts.

I have always believed in a Free and Peaceful Palestine and Israel and could Never be accused of anything else,unlike most Jews and pro-Jews on here,who's statements on here are more often Rabid and Uncouth towards the very fine Palestinians......unlike the Zionists who wish a Jewish Holy Land Only.Your hypocricy sic above is Banal and Boorish to say the least.

Your last statement is the most telling "So they have decided on a STRATEGY OF KICKING BUTT AND DIVIDING THE ENEMY TO WEAKEN THEM"

The sad thing is Elvis...........This is nothing New to the Palestinians because "THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE PAST 70 ODD YEARS"

So much for your indignity......the only people who have been denied DIGNITY,CONSIDERATION,PEACE ECT., ARE THE Palestinians

Now I am going to be a little Inflammatory.....MORONS LIKE YOU,ARE DISTASTEFUL TO ME,YOUR SLYNESS AND SLEEZE,YOUR OPEN SHAMEFULNESS IS DISGUSTING,YOUR CRY OF ANTI-ZIONISM IS PATHETIC....YOU ARE A BAD JEW amongst many fine Jewish people.steve...ps Go get a normal Life

My relatives and friends in Israel say you are gullible...not to mention heinous.
What else could they say to protect their HIDEOUS HEINOUS ZIONISTS that they are themselves??? tell them,that I will take their Zionist Terrorist comments as a Compliment,..........The further away from Zionism I am the better for me and mankind,again thanks for your purile post..steve..ps are they somewhat sensitive reading the truth,truth is not gullibility,listening to Zionist Bullshit is though......keep trying Indie,your prose always ends up in flames because only I speak it truth.

Viva Israel...Viva Palestine..........................BUT say NO TO ZIONISM

You call "Viva Israel" but death to Zionism. You're are a fucking joke. That's like calling "Viva human life" but with no heart and no lungs.
No you are the fucking joke....Zionism is a Terrorist Organization...FULL STOP...Viva Israel,Viva Palestine.........WHERE EVER DID I SAY DEATH TO ZIONISTS Lady,you need to put you brain into gear before opening your aggressive GOB (mouth).....theliq...SAY NO to Zionism....You talk SHIT most of the time,Roudy,you are dealing with Lips,she is a total Loser

Are you high?
It'S the truth
 

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