What do normal people - think of Israel?

[Billo_Really]

Then don't use trash sites. easy!!

Greg

Your personal feelings towards a particular website, has nothing to do with the truth or falsehood of a claim made at said website. And besides, ad hominems are not valid rebuttals.

 

[Billo_Really]

F'course.

And the Arabs are begging for it, right...

Every time they try to do something towards it, like the unity government, the Israeli right makes up some crisis to attack over.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah, the Fogel family were extremely menacing as insurgents......dickwad.

It's pretty menacing, forcibly living on someone else's property.

So if Israeli settlers are legal targets, does that imply that all of us non-Natives who are currently occupying indigenous lands throughout the western hemisphere are considered fair game as well?

Fortunately for us, "International Occupational Law", didn't hit the scene until "after" WWII.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yes, and no blame can be attributed to an internationally proscribed terrorist organization who believe that on judgment day, stones and trees are going to call out for them to come slaughter their enemies.

Your impartiality is truly enlightening.....

I'm the most impartial voice you'll hear on this subject and Israel commits more terrorism than they do.

 

[Billo_Really]

Maybe all the Jewish girls turned you down when you asked them out, or was it the Jewish bank manager that told you your deade cert was not good enough to give you a loan. Or is it just your culture and upbringing that beat the Jew Hatred into you.

So there is your answer and I do have the balls to answer you.

Those weren't answers, those were guesses. The truth is, you want me to hate Jews. You're doing everything you can to make me hate Jews. In fact, you're trying to get everyone to hate Jews. And you won't be able to live with yourself if they don't. The only "Jew Hatred" going around here, is the one you project onto others.

BTW, I did have a Jewish girlfriend once. Man, she was just a psycho in bed! Who would've thunk it?

As for your claims of posting about Israeli foreign policy, you only ever make post's about Jews doing wrong and being hateful towards them.

Wrong! I point out Israeli violations of international law and human rights.

 

[cnm]

That is a fifth-grade debate-club first-week tactic, and unworthy of the audience here.

Why can you not admit truths about Israel?

I admit that the Israelis do things that other nations do, as well.

Better?

Can you also admit Israel does things like steal passports that other nations don't do?

I mean holding Israel to the standards of the US is a pretty low bar.

 

[cnm]

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Including the American People, in a long-running series of public polls, including surveys this very summer, while Gaza War II was underway, in which Israel garnered massive and overwhelming support from the American People.

The numbers do not support your contention, domestically, anyway.

5% odd of the world population. The other portion mostly regards Israel as a rogue state. Votes on UN resolutions tend to confirm this is the 'normal' view.

No.

Votes on UN resolutions merely measure (1) the power of the Muslim lobby in the UN, (2) the power of anti-semitism in the UN, and (3) the number of 'needy', dependent powers, who must kiss Arab ass, in order to keep the oil flowing - willing to go along with 'most anything the Arabs ask of them.

Needs more victim. Btw, are you saying anti-Semitism is 'normal'?

 

[Shaam]

Yeah, the Fogel family were extremely menacing as insurgents......dickwad.

It's pretty menacing, forcibly living on someone else's property.

So if Israeli settlers are legal targets, does that imply that all of us non-Natives who are currently occupying indigenous lands throughout the western hemisphere are considered fair game as well?

Fortunately for us, "International Occupational Law", didn't hit the scene until "after" WWII.

How convenient for the sake of argument, eh?

But on a moral platform- what happened to the indigenous communities in in these lands far outdoes any wrongdoings against the non-indigenous Palestinian population in the Middle East.

 

[cnm]

Normal people think that was then and a bad thing but Israel is doing it now while ignoring all the lessons of history.

 

[Shaam]

Normal people think that was then and a bad thing but Israel is doing it now while ignoring all the lessons of history.

No they are not.

Israel is not a settler-colony. Jews have the oldest claim to Eretz Yisrael of all peoples still alive on the planet today.

The conflict is an ideological spat betwen Judaism and Islam. Muslims need to get over the fact that they lost land in wars they instigated and move the fck on.

 

[cnm]

Yeah, normal people think Israelis think that while refusing to learn the lessons of history. None so blind as those who will not see.


Oh, I remember another one. Normal people think that Israel wags the US.

So that's apartheid, thieving, war crimes, wags the US.

 

[Billo_Really]

How convenient for the sake of argument, eh?

It's more than just convenient, it happens to be true. It's also illegal. The occupying power cannot transfer a portion of it's citizens to the area it occupy's.

But on a moral platform- what happened to the indigenous communities in in these lands far outdoes any wrongdoings against the non-indigenous Palestinian population in the Middle East.

I'm not sure what your point is here. The indigenous communities are the Palestinian-Arabs, who owned 90% of the land and the Palestinian-Jews, who owned 10% of the land, before the asshole Zionists migrated in with their racist, apartheid policies.

 

[Billo_Really]

No they are not.

Israel is not a settler-colony. Jews have the oldest claim to Eretz Yisrael of all peoples still alive on the planet today.

The conflict is an ideological spat betwen Judaism and Islam. Muslims need to get over the fact that they lost land in wars they instigated and move the fck on.

It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war. For the world to say it is okay for Israel to keep that land, it would be like saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland. Do you think it was okay for Hitler to take Poland?

 

[Mindful]

No they are not.

Israel is not a settler-colony. Jews have the oldest claim to Eretz Yisrael of all peoples still alive on the planet today.

The conflict is an ideological spat betwen Judaism and Islam. Muslims need to get over the fact that they lost land in wars they instigated and move the fck on.

It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war. For the world to say it is okay for Israel to keep that land, it would be like saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland. Do you think it was okay for Hitler to take Poland?

He didn't annex it. Austria was annexed.

Though why the use of Godwin's Law in these matters is beyond me.

 

[docmauser1]

It's pretty menacing, forcibly living on someone else's property.

It's the californian way, which permits stealing other peoples' lightbulbs as per their catch 22 ordinance.

Fortunately for us, "International Occupational Law", didn't hit the scene until "after" WWII.

Ah! So, that's the point, when those "you" have become internationally occupied with Israel!

 

[docmauser1]

Those weren't answers, those were guesses. The truth is, you want me to hate Jews. You're doing everything you can to make me hate Jews. In fact, you're trying to get everyone to hate Jews. And you won't be able to live with yourself if they don't. The only "Jew Hatred" going around here, is the one you project onto others. BTW, I did have a Jewish girlfriend once. Man, she was just a psycho in bed! Who would've thunk it?

Ah! That's the source of all that angst!

Wrong! I point out Israeli violations of international law and human rights.

By pointing out personal legal ignorance, of course. Some folks beter stick to their Graphic Futuristic Interfaces and stealing lightbulbs in California.

 

[docmauser1]

Can you also admit Israel does things like steal passports that other nations don't do?I mean holding Israel to the standards of the US is a pretty low bar.

What was that drivel supposed to mean?

 

[docmauser1]

Normal people think that was then and a bad thing but Israel is doing it now while ignoring all the lessons of history.

Drivel.

 

[docmauser1]

Yeah, normal people think Israelis think that while refusing to learn the lessons of history. None so blind as those who will not see. Oh, I remember another one. Normal people think that Israel wags the US.

Normal people have a life and a job, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

It's more than just convenient, it happens to be true. It's also illegal. The occupying power cannot transfer a portion of it's citizens to the area it occupy's.

Lest we forget that, High Emir of Palistan delivered the title to the territory to Ben Gurion in person, of course!

I'm not sure what your point is here. The indigenous communities are the Palestinian-Arabs, who owned 90% of the land and the Palestinian-Jews, who owned 10% of the land, before the asshole Zionists migrated in with their racist, apartheid policies.

Ah! More tall tales about major arab settlers and squatters from the hood, who, by way of magic, all got to be "saudi sheiks" to own(!) 90%(!) of the mandate palestine!