What Did You Do In The War On Terror, Daddy

[CSM]

of course not all...but a clear majority.

Hmmm that is a wee bit different then.

 

[maineman]

no more different than saying that the American people elected George Bush as their president in 2004.

the american people supported the democrat's funding bill with deadlines.

 

[CSM]

no more different than saying that the American people elected George Bush as their president in 2004.

the american people supported the democrat's funding bill with deadlines.

Oh I agree that it is no different....doesn't make it anymore honest though.

 

[maineman]

Oh I agree that it is no different....doesn't make it anymore honest though.

wait... are you saying that "the american people elected George Bush president in 2004" is a dishonest statement?

 

[CSM]

wait... are you saying that "the american people elected George Bush president in 2004" is a dishonest statement?

Redirect and you know it....

It is about as honest as saying "the american people supported the democrat's funding bill with deadlines."

 

[maineman]

Redirect and you know it....

It is about as honest as saying "the american people supported the democrat's funding bill with deadlines."

considering the fact that the entire population of America has never agreed on ANYTHING, and anytime anyone says that the American people believe something or want something, it goes without saying that SOME Americans do not believe that or want that and that the statement refers to the majority.... I think both statements are completely honest.

the american people love apple pie.

the american people enjoy taking vacations from work.

the american people speak english.

three more honest statements.

 

[CSM]

considering the fact that the entire population of America has never agreed on ANYTHING, and anytime anyone says that the American people believe something or want something, it goes without saying that SOME Americans do not believe that or want that and that the statement refers to the majority.... I think both statements are completely honest.

the american people love apple pie.

the american people enjoy taking vacations from work.

the american people speak english.

three more honest statements.

Good, then we can agree that the American people support the President...afer all , he is STILL in power.

 

[mattskramer]

Good, then we can agree that the American people support the President...afer all , he is STILL in power.

That is a simple non sequitur. Just because a US president is in power does not necessarily prove that the American people support him.

The US does not have public no confidence votes agaist a president during his term.

Bush does not get a third term as president.

Look, again, at http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm and see Bush’s low approval rating.

 

[musicman]

That is a simple non sequitur. Just because a US president is in power does not necessarily prove that the American people support him.

The US does not have public no confidence votes agaist a president during his term.

Bush does not get a third term as president.

Look, again, at http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm and see Bush’s low approval rating.

Hell, matts - you missed his point.

 

[Gunny]

That is a simple non sequitur. Just because a US president is in power does not necessarily prove that the American people support him.

The US does not have public no confidence votes agaist a president during his term.

Bush does not get a third term as president.

Look, again, at http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm and see Bush’s low approval rating.

Good point. So we can conclude that:

Just because Congressional Democrats are pushing legislation that includes a rider attempting to usurp the President's authority as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive of this nation does not necessarily prove that the American people support it.

 

[red states rule]

Good point. So we can conclude that:

Just because Congressional Democrats are pushing legislation that includes a rider attempting to usurp the President's authority as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive of this nation does not necessarily prove that the American people support it.

Dems have been trying to assume the powers of the CIC since they took over in January

 

[Rosotar]

Good, then we can agree that the American people support the President...afer all , he is STILL in power.

Apparently you haven't seen his poll numbers lately. He's tied with Jimmy Carter as the worst president ever.

Do you think the American people were behind Carter when his poll numbers were at rock bottom?

 

[red states rule]

Apparently you haven't seen his poll numbers lately. He's tied with Jimmy Carter as the worst president ever.

Do you think the American people were behind Carter when his poll numbers were at rock bottom?

Dems are not doing much better in the polls

 

[Rosotar]

Good point. So we can conclude that:

Just because Congressional Democrats are pushing legislation that includes a rider attempting to usurp the President's authority as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive of this nation does not necessarily prove that the American people support it.

The American people voted in Democrats who were promising to end this war period. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

BTW the Legislative and Executive branches of government are co-equal. Bush doesn't have any more power than Congress.

It appears you'd be happier Gunny in a dictatorship or monarchy. Maybe you're just not cut out to be an American.

There are countries in the world where you can live under such a system.

Maybe you should check on one way transportation.

 

[red states rule]

The American people voted in Democrats who were promising to end this war period. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

BTW the Legislative and Executive branches of government are co-equal. Bush doesn't have any more power than Congress.

It appears you'd be happier Gunny in a dictatorship or monarchy. Maybe you're just not cut out to be an American.

There are countries in the world where you can live under such a system.

Maybe you should check on one way transportation.

Voters went with Dems because Dems said they would stand up to terrorists - not surrender to them

 

[maineman]

Voters went with Dems because Dems said they would stand up to terrorists - not surrender to them

the fact that you keep running away from is that the funding bill is NOT a surrender bill and the AMerican people were supportive of it and were not supportive of the president's veto of it. America thought funding the troops but setting deadlines made sense.

sucks to be you, eh?

 

[red states rule]

the fact that you keep running away from is that the funding bill is NOT a surrender bill and the AMerican people were supportive of it and were not supportive of the president's veto of it. America thought funding the troops but setting deadlines made sense.

sucks to be you, eh?

It is a surrender bill plain and simple

the terrorists support the Dems in this venture - tells you something about the Dems

 

[maineman]

It is a surrender bill plain and simple

the terrorists support the Dems in this venture - tells you something about the Dems

no. it is not. and your repeatedly calling it that won't change what it is: a funding bill with non-binding deadlines that the American people supported.

they do not support you or your president in this war anymore.

 

[red states rule]

no. it is not. and your repeatedly calling it that won't change what it is: a funding bill with non-binding deadlines that the American people supported.

they do not support you or your president in this war anymore.

It is a surrender bill

If you support surrender and appeasing terrorists - that is your right

 

[maineman]

It is a surrender bill

If you support surrender and appeasing terrorists - that is your right

it is not a surrender bill. period.

please show me the language in the bill where we surrender any encampments or military assets to any enemy.

and you cannot escape the fact that the AMerican people were solidly behind the democrat's funding bill....they realize that Bush and his administration don't know what the fuck they are doing.