What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[dblack]

Evidently they didn’t

They did. But ambitions politicians sometimes get what they want, despite the rules, despite the best interests of the country. You may have noticed.

 

[rightwinger]

They did. But ambitions politicians sometimes get what they want, despite the rules, despite the best interests of the country. You may have noticed.

What they did was affirmed in the Constitution and hundreds of years of case law

If you disagree with the Constitutionality of any law, the courts are available to you

 

[dblack]

What they did was affirmed in the Constitution and hundreds of years of case law

If you disagree with the Constitutionality of any law, the courts are available to you

Your side won dude. We get it. But the question of the thread is the intent of the founders, which was quite clear. And their intent was thwarted.

 

[rightwinger]

Your side won dude. We get it. But the question of the thread is the intent of the founders, which was quite clear. And their intent was thwarted.

Actually, their intent was to not tell future generations how to run their lives

 

[dblack]

Actually, their intent was to not tell future generations how to run their lives

Indeed it was. And something you would do well to learn yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

Indeed it was. And something you would do well to learn yourself.

Sorry, but I don’t want some 18th century Aristocrat running my country

 

[80zephyr]

Sorry, but I don’t want some 18th century Aristocrat running my country

Thats why the Constitution can be amended.

 

[dblack]

Thats why the Constitution can be amended.

But that's too much work. Far easier to just pretend it means something else.

 

[rightwinger]

Thats why the Constitution can be amended

Not necessary
Just let Congress do what is best for the general welfare of We the People

 

[80zephyr]

Not necessary
Just let Congress do what is best for the general welfare of We the People

If its not constitutional, its not legal.

 

[rightwinger]

If its not constitutional, its not legal.

Show any court finding that supports your claim

 

[80zephyr]

Show any court finding that supports your claim

Whether supported or not, does not change the facts.

 

[rightwinger]

Whether supported or not, does not change the facts.

Facts are that you are part of the lunatic fringe that takes an absolutist view of the Constitution

 

[80zephyr]

Facts are that you are part of the lunatic fringe that takes an absolutist view of the Constitution

There is no other view to take. If the Constitution can change because some one wants it to then we really have no law. Except for the person in power. Is that what you want?

 

[rightwinger]

There is no other view to take. If the Constitution can change because some one wants it to then we really have no law. Except for the person in power. Is that what you want?

General welfare is broad guidance
So is Defense

 

[80zephyr]

General welfare is broad guidance
So is Defense

Basically its like Pelosi claimed. The power of the government is unlimited. No thanks.

 

[dblack]

Basically its like Pelosi claimed. The power of the government is unlimited. No thanks.

Here's where rw comes back with "We the People". I bet he's typing it right now.

 

[rightwinger]

Basically its like Pelosi claimed. The power of the government is unlimited. No thanks.

It is limited by the voters

 

[80zephyr]

It is limited by the voters

Sure it is. Our present day reality is proof. Lol.

 

[dblack]

Sure it is. Our present day reality is proof. Lol.

He doesn't get that the Constitution is there to protects from voters, to limit the "will of the people".