What Convicted Felons Do You Know Who Didn't Receive Prison Time Or Fines?

[sparky]

Methinks we'll soon all get an education in lawfare.....~S~

 

[mudwhistle]

Nobody but Donald gets coddled.

Yep....just like Hunter Biden.

 

[JGalt]

It happens, sometimes.

Most often, the plea agreement defines the sentence to be imposed. In other cases, a judge gives a lenient sentence not because the crime wasn’t a crime, but because it was so minor as to not require prison, jail or even probation.

But a lenient sentence is still a sentence, right?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Where did Dems get the idea that Trump cannot appeal this bogus conviction?

Why are they not more angry that Trump got no jail and no fine?

If they really believe that he is guilty of 34 felonies, why don't they want him to get the same sentence that others before him have gotten for calling payments to their lawyers "legal fees?"

Oh, wait . . .

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Road Runner]

Methinks we'll soon all get an education in lawfare.....~S~

That's what I'm currently waiting for from them and waiting, and waiting, and waiting....

Where did Dems get the idea that Trump cannot appeal this bogus conviction?

Why are they not more angry that Trump got no jail and no fine?

If they really believe that he is guilty of 34 felonies, why don't they want him to get the same sentence that others before him have gotten for calling payments to their lawyers "legal fees?"

Oh, wait . . .

My point exactly.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[mudwhistle]

But a lenient sentence is still a sentence, right?

Problem is the sentence reveals that the case was horse shit.

They told everyone for years they were going to put him in prison. Instead they let him walk. The trial never should have happened in the first place.

Just like all of the other cases against him were horse shit:

 

[crossbody]

Trump is finally done with that fool - Judge Merchan

 

[JGalt]

Problem is the sentence reveals that the case was horse shit.

They told everyone for years they were going to put him in prison. Instead they let him walk. The trial never should have happened in the first place.

Just like all of the other cases against him were horse shit:

That is true. The prosecution did things that up until now, were never heard of in the world of jurisprudence.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[BackAgain]

Before taking office in 2016 Trump had to pay 25 million to pay off Trump University fraud complaints.

Ok. And?

Then while president he was caught taking money from a charity he set up...

Was he?

 

[BackAgain]

Interesting, but Trump didn't take any plea agreement though.

That was the first part of my answer. I went on to note that sometimes judge give lenient sentences (like the conditional discharge) when they consider the crime de minimus.

 

[BackAgain]

Exactly. Which is why Trump has no case on appeal.

What a dopey ^ and mindless comment. Until President Re-Elect Trump was sentenced, there was no conviction to appeal. He just got sentenced. Calm down, skrewy.

 

[BackAgain]

But a lenient sentence is still a sentence, right?

Yes sir.

 

[Crepitus]

A question for the left. As I've been waiting for the answer in another thread so I decided to post a new thread about it so more Democrats will see it. I'm already guessing that nobody will have any answers but I thought that I would still try to make a point.

Nobody but tRump get that kinda special tReatment.

Anybody else would be in prison.

Can you imagine trying to explain why you had classified documents in your bathroom to the FBI?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

A question for the left. As I've been waiting for the answer in another thread so I decided to post a new thread about it so more Democrats will see it. I'm already guessing that nobody will have any answers but I thought that I would still try to make a point.

I don't recall you responding to my previous inquiry regarding the compare & contrast question so I don't expect you to do any better with this one.

Nonetheless, the reason that Trump's sentence didn't include incarceration or any other form of punishment is because he's taking office on the 20th.

Did you ever stop to think what would have happened to him had he not been re-elected? The courts are limited to what punishment they can impose on a sitting president.

That's the only reason for the current state of affairs and even though I've asked the question over & over again, while there are individuals with similar circumstances as Trump, those all involved pardons by U.S. president so apparently there is no one else in the country with the exact set of circumstances as Trump.

These are some others that are similar but not identical:
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Identifying individuals, famous or not, who have been convicted of a felony in the United States but received no prison time or other punishment is a nuanced inquiry. While such cases are rare, they can occur due to various factors, including plea deals, cooperation with authorities, probation arrangements, or judicial discretion. Here are some examples that align with your request:

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Famous Individuals​

1. Donald Trump (pending cases as of January 2025)
   • If convicted in any of his cases, it is speculated that prison time may not be imposed due to his age, former presidency, or other considerations.
2. Paul Manafort (Former Trump campaign chairman)
   • Initially sentenced to prison but later pardoned by President Trump, effectively removing his punishment.
3. Mark Wahlberg (Actor, early criminal charges)
   • Convicted of assault (felony) as a teenager but received minimal punishment and later had his record expunged.
4. Robert Downey Jr. (Actor)
   • Multiple felony drug convictions; while he served jail time in some instances, he received leniency in others due to rehabilitation efforts.
5. Paris Hilton (Socialite, misdemeanor downgraded from potential felony)
   • Avoided severe consequences for incidents involving drugs and probation violations.

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Not-So-Famous Individuals​

1. Corporate Executives (Enron-related or white-collar cases)
   • Some executives convicted of fraud have received fines or community service instead of prison time.
2. Informants and Cooperators
   • Defendants who cooperate with law enforcement in exchange for reduced or no sentencing. Their convictions remain on record, but punishment is waived.
3. First-Time Nonviolent Offenders
   • Many nonviolent offenders, particularly those convicted under certain drug laws or white-collar crimes, receive probation or deferred judgments that result in no actual punishment.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Where did Dems get the idea that Trump cannot appeal this bogus conviction?

Why are they not more angry that Trump got no jail and no fine?

If they really believe that he is guilty of 34 felonies, why don't they want him to get the same sentence that others before him have gotten for calling payments to their lawyers "legal fees?"

Oh, wait . . .

Because the law doesn't allow him to be incarcerated or dealing with punishment as a part of his sentence while he's a sitting president and is supposed to be focused on the duties of the office of the president. This is what I've read.

 

[Robert W]

All men are created equal and die equal.

How funny to read this from a loyal Democrat. When for a fact you don't treat the rich as your equals. You piss all over the rich.

 

[para bellum]

Because the law doesn't allow him to be incarcerated or dealing with punishment as a part of his sentence while he's a sitting president and is supposed to be focused on the duties of the office of the president. This is what I've read.

So why no fine? A fine would not burden his ability to do the job.

NY law provides for up to $5,000 penalty for a Class E Felony. Merchan could have hit him with a $170K in penalties, but he didn't even do that.

You people act like this was the crime of the century, but you make excuses for no penalty. You only care about the label "convicted felon", and that shows me that the motivation is political.