What Convicted Felons Do You Know Who Didn't Receive Prison Time Or Fines?

[para bellum]

Can you imagine trying to explain why you had classified documents in your bathroom to the FBI?

It was no problem for Hillary. She just went in on a Saturday and had a casual meeting, and everything was golden...

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't recall you responding to my previous inquiry regarding the compare & contrast question so I don't expect you to do any better with this one.

Nonetheless, the reason that Trump's sentence didn't include incarceration or any other form of punishment is because he's taking office on the 20th.

Did you ever stop to think what would have happened to him had he not been re-elected? The courts are limited to what punishment they can impose on a sitting president.

That's the only reason for the current state of affairs and even though I've asked the question over & over again, while there are individuals with similar circumstances as Trump, those all involved pardons by U.S. president so apparently there is no one else in the country with the exact set of circumstances as Trump.

These are some others that are similar but not identical:
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Identifying individuals, famous or not, who have been convicted of a felony in the United States but received no prison time or other punishment is a nuanced inquiry. While such cases are rare, they can occur due to various factors, including plea deals, cooperation with authorities, probation arrangements, or judicial discretion. Here are some examples that align with your request:

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Famous Individuals​

1. Donald Trump(pending cases as of January 2025)
   • If convicted in any of his cases, it is speculated that prison time may not be imposed due to his age, former presidency, or other considerations.
2. Paul Manafort(Former Trump campaign chairman)
   • Initially sentenced to prison but later pardoned by President Trump, effectively removing his punishment.
3. Mark Wahlberg(Actor, early criminal charges)
   • Convicted of assault (felony) as a teenager but received minimal punishment and later had his record expunged.
4. Robert Downey Jr.(Actor)
   • Multiple felony drug convictions; while he served jail time in some instances, he received leniency in others due to rehabilitation efforts.
5. Paris Hilton(Socialite, misdemeanor downgraded from potential felony)
   • Avoided severe consequences for incidents involving drugs and probation violations.

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Not-So-Famous Individuals​

1. Corporate Executives(Enron-related or white-collar cases)
   • Some executives convicted of fraud have received fines or community service instead of prison time.
2. Informants and Cooperators
   • Defendants who cooperate with law enforcement in exchange for reduced or no sentencing. Their convictions remain on record, but punishment is waived.
3. First-Time Nonviolent Offenders
   • Many nonviolent offenders, particularly those convicted under certain drug laws or white-collar crimes, receive probation or deferred judgments that result in no actual punishment.

Wait a minute.....what happened to all of that Hitler talk?

 

[mudwhistle]

So why no fine? A fine would not burden his ability to do the job.

NY law provides for up to $5,000 penalty for a Class E Felony. Merchan could have hit him with a $170K in penalties, but he didn't even do that.

You people act like this was the crime of the century, but you make excuses for no penalty. You only care about the label "convicted felon", and that shows me that the motivation is political.

Any fine would have been just one more reason for the conviction to be overturned.

Basically the case was over a non-crime (as testified in court) and the felony conviction was bogus from the beginning.

Failure to properly enter an expense? The crime of the century? Basically the Dems are trying to make spitting on the sidewalk a capital offense.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Because the law doesn't allow him to be incarcerated or dealing with punishment as a part of his sentence while he's a sitting president and is supposed to be focused on the duties of the office of the president. This is what I've read.

Can you link me to where you read that?

I've never heard of such a law. The "judge" cetainly did not cite it in his "sentencing." Even if there were, Merchan would have had the option of giving Trump a prison term, and then suspending it until he left the White House.

But he did as he was directed by the people pumping millions of dollers into his daughter's consulting firm.

 

[Robert W]

Being a non-virgin to court cases doesn’t have fuck all to do with the claim that the Dims set these recent cases up as a a series of charades.

We can remind these worthless Democrats that they also persecuted the great Tom Delay of TX and hounded him over and over with prosecutions. Finally he was tried and found guilty. Then courts stepped in and freed the man and cancelled all prosecutions. Trump will also be freed when Democrats prosecuted him. The courts fix wrong things.

 

[Crepitus]

It was no problem for Hillary. She just went in on a Saturday and had a casual meeting, and everything was golden...

When did Hillary Clinton have a tranche of secret documents stashed in her bathroom?

 

[PeterPilot]

A question for the left. As I've been waiting for the answer in another thread so I decided to post a new thread about it so more Democrats will see it. I'm already guessing that nobody will have any answers but I thought that I would still try to make a point.

Good question and thread. I would like to ask a related question: What is the qualitative differences between a felon, a convicted felon and an unconvicted felon? Can a person never caught by the authorities for a crime still be considered a felon?

 

[Road Runner]

That was the first part of my answer. I went on to note that sometimes judge give lenient sentences (like the conditional discharge) when they consider the crime de minimus.

Well that be the case then what's the use of even charging him in the first place?

Nobody but tRump get that kinda special tReatment.

Anybody else would be in prison.

Can you imagine trying to explain why you had classified documents in your bathroom to the FBI?

You should add Biden to your top sentence.

I don't recall you responding to my previous inquiry regarding the compare & contrast question so I don't expect you to do any better with this one.

Nonetheless, the reason that Trump's sentence didn't include incarceration or any other form of punishment is because he's taking office on the 20th.

Did you ever stop to think what would have happened to him had he not been re-elected? The courts are limited to what punishment they can impose on a sitting president.

That's the only reason for the current state of affairs and even though I've asked the question over & over again, while there are individuals with similar circumstances as Trump, those all involved pardons by U.S. president so apparently there is no one else in the country with the exact set of circumstances as Trump.

These are some others that are similar but not identical:
------------------------
Identifying individuals, famous or not, who have been convicted of a felony in the United States but received no prison time or other punishment is a nuanced inquiry. While such cases are rare, they can occur due to various factors, including plea deals, cooperation with authorities, probation arrangements, or judicial discretion. Here are some examples that align with your request:

---

Famous Individuals​

1. Donald Trump(pending cases as of January 2025)
   • If convicted in any of his cases, it is speculated that prison time may not be imposed due to his age, former presidency, or other considerations.
2. Paul Manafort(Former Trump campaign chairman)
   • Initially sentenced to prison but later pardoned by President Trump, effectively removing his punishment.
3. Mark Wahlberg(Actor, early criminal charges)
   • Convicted of assault (felony) as a teenager but received minimal punishment and later had his record expunged.
4. Robert Downey Jr.(Actor)
   • Multiple felony drug convictions; while he served jail time in some instances, he received leniency in others due to rehabilitation efforts.
5. Paris Hilton(Socialite, misdemeanor downgraded from potential felony)
   • Avoided severe consequences for incidents involving drugs and probation violations.

---

Not-So-Famous Individuals​

1. Corporate Executives(Enron-related or white-collar cases)
   • Some executives convicted of fraud have received fines or community service instead of prison time.
2. Informants and Cooperators
   • Defendants who cooperate with law enforcement in exchange for reduced or no sentencing. Their convictions remain on record, but punishment is waived.
3. First-Time Nonviolent Offenders
   • Many nonviolent offenders, particularly those convicted under certain drug laws or white-collar crimes, receive probation or deferred judgments that result in no actual punishment.

What question? I apologize as I must have missed it.

Good question and thread. I would like to ask a related question: What is the qualitative differences between a felon, a convicted felon and an unconvicted felon? Can a person never caught by the authorities for a crime still be considered a felon?

I don't know, my brain hurts.

 

[Crepitus]

You should add Biden to your top sentence.

Why?

 

[Road Runner]

Why?

He did the exact same thing with the classified documents that Trump did. I'm not excusing either one actually.

 

[Blaster]

This trial was just about politics and nothing else.

 

[Crepitus]

He did the exact same thing with the classified documents that Trump did. I'm not excusing either one actually.

Lol, no. He did not.

 

[Road Runner]

Lol, no. He did not.

Yes he did as apparently he was too incompetent to stand trial but still competent enough to be president.

 

[Crepitus]

Yes he did as apparently he was too incompetent to stand trial but still competent enough to be president.

Another lie.

 

[Road Runner]

Another lie.

Redirect Notice

 

[Crepitus]

Redirect Notice

Yeah, tRump saying it certainly doesn't encourage anyone with a brain to think it's true.

Try again.

 

[BackAgain]

Well that be the case then what's the use of even charging him in the first place?

There was never any legitimate jurisprudential reason to prosecute him on any of these cases. There was clearly no reason at all other than politics. That’s why it is so disgraceful what the DMs conspired to do.

And any honest lib or Democrat knows this is the truth.

 

[Road Runner]

Yeah, tRump saying it certainly doesn't encourage anyone with a brain to think it's true.

Try again.

Anybody who knows who Joe Biden is knows it true. Even you do.

 

[Crepitus]

Anybody who knows who Joe Biden is knows it true. Even you do.

It's bullshit force fed to you by the echo chamber you choose to inhabit.

 

[para bellum]

When did Hillary Clinton have a tranche of secret documents stashed in her bathroom?

On her email server, obviously. Where have you been?