What Constitutes a "Right?"
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Enumerate and demonstrate
Will, ability, and action demonstrate merely will, ability, and action
If I have the will and ability to rape you in the ass and Cut your throat when I ejaculate inside you, and i perform the action of such, does that mean i have the right to do it?
Or are you just a ******* retard for equating will, ability, and action with 'natural rights'?
Will, ability, and action demonstrate merely will, ability, and action
If I have the will and ability to rape you in the ass and Cut your throat when I ejaculate inside you, and i perform the action of such, does that mean i have the right to do it?
Or are you just a ******* retard for equating will, ability, and action with 'natural rights'?
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DEAR SIR,
In some of the delightful conversations with you in the evenings of 1798-99, and which served as an anodyne to the afflictions of the crisis through which our country was then laboring, the Christian religion was sometimes our topic; and I then promised you that one day or other I would give you my views of it. They are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from that anti-Christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other. At the short interval since these conversations, when I could justifiably abstract my mind from public affairs, the subject has been under my contemplation. But the more I considered it, the more it expanded beyond the measure of either my time or information. In the moment of my late departure from Monticello, I received from Dr. Priestley his little treatise of "Socrates and Jesus Compared." This being a section of the general view I had taken of the field, it became a subject of reflection while on the road and unoccupied otherwise. The result was, to arrange in my mind a syllabus or outline of such an estimate of the comparative merits of Christianity as I wished to see executed by someone of more leisure and information for the task than myself. This I now send you as the only discharge of my promise I can probably ever execute. And in confiding it to you, I know it will not be exposed to the malignant perversions of those who make every word from me a text for new misrepresentations and calumnies. I am moreover averse to the communication of my religious tenets to the public, because it would countenance the presumption of those who have endeavored to draw them before that tribunal, and to seduce public opinion to erect itself into that inquisition over the rights of conscience which the laws have so justly proscribed. It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. It behooves him, too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independent opinion, by answering questions of faith which the laws have left between God and himself. Accept my affectionate salutations.
Th: Jefferson
In some of the delightful conversations with you in the evenings of 1798-99, and which served as an anodyne to the afflictions of the crisis through which our country was then laboring, the Christian religion was sometimes our topic; and I then promised you that one day or other I would give you my views of it. They are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from that anti-Christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other. At the short interval since these conversations, when I could justifiably abstract my mind from public affairs, the subject has been under my contemplation. But the more I considered it, the more it expanded beyond the measure of either my time or information. In the moment of my late departure from Monticello, I received from Dr. Priestley his little treatise of "Socrates and Jesus Compared." This being a section of the general view I had taken of the field, it became a subject of reflection while on the road and unoccupied otherwise. The result was, to arrange in my mind a syllabus or outline of such an estimate of the comparative merits of Christianity as I wished to see executed by someone of more leisure and information for the task than myself. This I now send you as the only discharge of my promise I can probably ever execute. And in confiding it to you, I know it will not be exposed to the malignant perversions of those who make every word from me a text for new misrepresentations and calumnies. I am moreover averse to the communication of my religious tenets to the public, because it would countenance the presumption of those who have endeavored to draw them before that tribunal, and to seduce public opinion to erect itself into that inquisition over the rights of conscience which the laws have so justly proscribed. It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. It behooves him, too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independent opinion, by answering questions of faith which the laws have left between God and himself. Accept my affectionate salutations.
Th: Jefferson
When Your Fingers stroke the keyboard, watch them, they move, they accomplish the task your will dictates. Your Will is not subject to Society for It's existence, but a driving force that is Internal. Obama can break Your Keyboard, even your fingers, but not what drives them, Your Mind. Your Mind is Powered from something that has no relation to Government or Societies Consent, so much so that You, Must Validate within before You can Accept. Granted the choice of Obama was arbitrary, any substitution will do.
You can Try, though You know that You don't have the Right, being unjustified and Predatory, You would look pretty funny with your head shoved up your ass though if you were stupid enough to try. You are limited to two options, I am Free to Serve My Purpose. You may need more help than you are currently aware of. I advise you to seek council, before I find you on an episode of Dexter. Do not attempt to act on your urges, Promise?
You have the Right to Your Fantasies, no matter how weird and perverted they are. You do not have the Right to harm others without cause and Justification. I see You did not read up on Locke. I made no such claims your reading comprehension lacks,as evidenced by the false claims you systematically throw out.
Contumacious
Radical Freedom
Noone has EVER demonstrated that 'natural rights' exist
That's what Adolf Hitler said.
It is very difficult to accept the Doctrine Of Natural Rights when one is determined to incinerate alive 6,000,000 million individuals.
Call me retarded if you must, but I have a hard time accepting that the Nazi society had a right to murder 6, 000,000 individuals, but that is just me, I'm kind of sensitive that way.
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You add things, ... You Take Things away... You imagine a Universe in which You Govern, I don't live there, few could. You need to cover your own tangents and misdirection. Use Your Imagination. Get a pet. Maybe you could teach your gold fish how to fetch? You Enumerate, You demonstrate, If it pleases you. You are Exempt from grade, being special needs, You get a star and a butterfly. Now go see about that diaper change, if it pleases you.
You Have not done Your Research on Locke. You are unprepared until you do.
I can't? So tell me, if I take a gun and blow your brains out and there is no government to back up your right to life how did you naturally have that right? And if I take your family and make them my slaves, without government to prevent me, where is their natural right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
Seems to me, the only way for a right to be natural is if there exists the force of government to back them up...
Liability
Locked Account.
ummm, no...the right to own property comes from the 5th Amendment to the US Constitution, which is law legislated by Congress (elected by the people) for the purpose of creating a just society, governed by the rules THEY ELECT REPRESENTATIVES to create and enact.
"Rights" are whatever we (the people) decide they are (as a society). Theoretically, we could blame ourselves for the social disaster we're a part of. But that's such a simpleton perspective. The truth is, there will always be that group of people that desire power above all else, and prey on those that don't think very well to achieve their own agendas.
I personally think my generation (baby boomers) are largely to blame for the "me first" attitude in this country. Had that been the case in the 1930's and 1940's, there is no doubt Hitler would have won. The prosperity following WWII spoiled us as a nation, and we boomers felt we were "owed" a comfortable easy life.
So when those same people came into their power years (the 1980s and 90s) that "spoiled" nature reared it's ugly head. Corrupt people advanced to become Presidents, CEOs and Directors of most the major corporations in this country. The deregulation of the 1980s and lack of government oversight/protection allowed big business to effectively hijack government and the legal system with big money, and control monetary policy. If we're EVER going to fix our system, first we will have to take away the rights of corporations to affect legislation (while they are legal entities, they should not have "civil" rights as individuals do).
The Constitution was never meant to give social power to business. Business exists for the benefit of society, not the other way around. Unfortunately, a by-product of capitalism is it's embrace of greed. Don't get me wrong, I AM a capitalist. I believe in a capitalistic approach to business within markets where that system works well. It is NOT, however, the be all and end all of economics. For that, we need a more practical solution in those markets where the "profit" motive simply doesn't work (such as healthcare), and supply and demand are unbalanced. You know the drill, I can decide not to buy a stereo if I feel it's too expensive, but I'm not likely to turn down a heart transplant no matter what the price. So I, for one, think that qualifies as "unbalanced" demand.
So, whatever we, the people, decide we want (or don't want) the government to manage for us is up to us. That doesn't make us "socialist" at all. It makes us "socially responsible" to each other, and is simply a better way to live. (mho).
dangit! rambling again
-sensored
Uhm. No.
NO rights whatsofuckingever come FROM the Constitution.
The Constitution only serves to PROTECT rights. It doesn't give a ******* thing to the People. The People already HAD the rights.
Dumb. Real dumb. If that was the case, why do we have a Constitution?
We did not have those rights, that is why we fought the Revolutionary War. In fact, almost nobody in the civilized world had those rights at that time. We created those rights, and the world is a far better place for that creation. And we can add rights as our wealth allows us to. Since all the other industrial nations, and some non-industrial nations have already surpassed us in this regard, it is time now for us to learn from these nations as they learned from us concerning the rights of citizens.
You are a jackass. The rights were already ours. If a government was the entity which could give any of us "rights" (a) they aren't rights at all and (b) the same government could just as easily take them away.
We asserted, clearly and unequivocally, that the rights were already ours and we did not crreate a government to then give us rights.
I am constantly amazed at how ignorant so many people like you are.
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