What conditions would you accept an abortion, if any?

[Zavulon]

Very basic biology. If you want a baby, open your legs if you're female or if you're a bloke, find a willing woman with open legs. If neither wants a baby, keep the sperm off the egg, use a different orifice. Being pregnant in 99.9% of cases is not hazardous to health. Using healthcare for abortion is merely a contraception. If you don't want a baby and you instigate the makings of one, nature rewards your stupidity with a prize, a baby.

If rape, incest etc.. is mentioned, that's less than 1% of abortions and irrelevant to the argument.

Those that don't have the ability and/or brains not to conceive if they want a baby, should they be allowed to vote, drive a car, own a gun etc.. If they're that dumb.......

Why are you pro abortion?

It's basic biology. Infanticide is not uncommon among animals. If a dog, or a cat, or an ant are not ready to have babies (for any reason) they kill them. And killing babies before birth is cheaper and safer than killing them after birth.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I am in favor of a 10-12 week limit on birth control abortions, which covers situations of rape.

after that, for the life of the mother only.

Of course I live in NY so that probably isn't going to happen.

I am also a firm believer that this is a State issue, not a federal one.

I'm a firm believer that it's a God issue.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's basic biology. Infanticide is not uncommon among animals. If a dog, or a cat, or an ant are not ready to have babies (for any reason) they kill them. And killing babies before birth is cheaper and safer than killing them after birth.

If a male lion successfully ousts the dominant male from a pride, he then kills any cubs so he can mate and have his own.

So logic would suggest that if a man wins the heart of another man's wife who has kids, the incoming man should kill the kids to have his own with her?

 

[Zavulon]

If a male lion successfully ousts the dominant male from a pride, he then kills any cubs so he can mate and have his own.

So logic would suggest that if a man wins the heart of another man's wife who has kids, the incoming man should kill the kids to have his own with her?

Not necessarily. We are not lions, we have much longer childhood and we are social (almost eusocial). Sometimes we kill babies from other flocks, sometimes we adopt them.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

It's basic biology. Infanticide is not uncommon among animals. If a dog, or a cat, or an ant are not ready to have babies (for any reason) they kill them. And killing babies before birth is cheaper and safer than killing them after birth.

So Mankind, should cast its Morals, Acts of Responsibility, as well as any Spiritual Guidance, aside, & become One with Nature.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Not necessarily. We are not lions, we have much longer childhood and we are social (almost eusocial). Sometimes we kill babies from other flocks, sometimes we adopt them.

We're not dogs, cats, and ants either but it's ok bring those up but not lions?

 

[Zavulon]

So Mankind, should cast its Morals, Acts of Responsibility, as well as any Spiritual Guidance, aside, & become One with Nature.

No. We develop our Morals, Acts if Responsibility, Spiritual (whatever it is) guidance and whatever else basing on our understanding of what we are and what we need. We can't become "One with Nature" because there is literally nothing but Nature.
Even if we decide to clone ourselfs or print us in bioprinters, or move our minds and bodies in computers, it will be Nature, anyway.

Or you can develop your Morals and Spiritual guidance, basing on some Ancient books. I do understand it too. All what I want in this case, is you guys, using proper quotation and actually following ancient rules. Telling us stories that Bible is "against abortions" or "pro women rights" is simply not truth.

 

[Zavulon]

We're not dogs, cats, and ants either but it's ok bring those up but not lions?

It is Ok with lions. Actually, some human societies (like Caribs) actually used something close to this reproduction strategy for themsleves. Not that I think this strategy should be applied to the modern technological society (especially in the current circumstances). But who knows, how the things can turn out in future?

 

[Captain Caveman]

It is Ok with lions. Actually, some human societies (like Caribs) actually used something close to this reproduction strategy for themsleves. Not that I think this strategy should be applied to the modern technological society (especially in the current circumstances). But who knows, how the things can turn out in future?

Well, some people flat out support abortion, some people flat out don't, and some like me don't support abortion unless the fetus is deformed/defect (such as downs, Spina bifida etc..) or there's a danger to the mother, for example an ectopic pregnancy.

I believe countries should leave the abortion law upto a democratic referendum for the people to decide.

1 - Abortion
2 - No abortion
3 - No abortions but with exemptions

First past the post wins and settles the law.

Do a poll.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

No. We develop our Morals, Acts if Responsibility, Spiritual (whatever it is) guidance and whatever else basing on our understanding of what we are and what we need. We can't become "One with Nature" because there is literally nothing but Nature.
Even if we decide to clone ourselfs or print us in bioprinters, or move our minds and bodies in computers, it will be Nature, anyway.

Or you can develop your Morals and Spiritual guidance, basing on some Ancient books. I do understand it too. All what I want in this case, is you guys, using proper quotation and actually following ancient rules. Telling us stories that Bible is "against abortions" or "pro women rights" is simply not truth.

So,.... In Your Thinking, it is "Moral", to Murder the innocent Unborn.

 

[Zavulon]

So,.... In Your Thinking, it is "Moral", to Murder the innocent Unborn.

Yes. In many moral systems it is definitely "moral".

 

[Zavulon]

Well, some people flat out support abortion, some people flat out don't, and some like me don't support abortion unless the fetus is deformed/defect (such as downs, Spina bifida etc..) or there's a danger to the mother, for example an ectopic pregnancy.

I believe countries should leave the abortion law upto a democratic referendum for the people to decide.

1 - Abortion
2 - No abortion
3 - No abortions but with exemptions

First past the post wins and settles the law.

Do a poll.

Abortion or no abortion is just a little part of the whole national strategy of reproduction. Say, Chinese conception "One family - one child" (with obligatory abortions) was one of the reason of significant rise of Chinese economy and power.

 

[martybegan]

I'm a firm believer that it's a God issue.

And yet we still have to render unto Ceasar.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Yes. In many moral systems it is definitely "moral".

U R 8 UP Zav.

Hopefully You will soon Wake Up, & become a Thinking "Human Being".

 

[Hafar1014]

Abortion on demand for 3 months then there must be medical reason

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

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Abortion on demand fir 3 months then there must be medical reason

Hafar, aren't You "Jewish"?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm a firm believer that it's a God issue.

What if God doesn't exist, do we sit and wait?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Abortion as odious as it is, is still better than adoption. Once a woman knows that she will spend the rest of her life wondering about the next knock on the door, destroying the life she built, abortion is the only sensible thing to do. Fortunately, it is liberal women, destroying the next generation of liberals.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I'm Thinking that a more MORAL Society, would be the proper answer to Abortion.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But if you are for abortions with no restrictions, what if you knew they would be trans or gay and you could abort them? Would that be Ok?

Or better yet, what if you could abort them based on their political views?

Up to 20 weeks, the reasons should not legally matter.