What can republicans do for blacks?

[LOki]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

 

[amrchaos]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!

Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.

1) Actually it does not. If it did, you best schools would not be private(at least, before the voucher system in Florida)

2)The result in Florida was not better quality private schools, just more unregulated schools. Not one having to submit to the requirements placed on public..Yes, there are even a few "teenage-sitting" facilities that does attempt to provide any form of education.

3)I said "religious" not specifically Christian. Also, understand, not every Christian is found of Catholic teaching. Jews do not want their indoctrinated in Christianity(Christians do not want their kids indoctrinated in Judaism) Plus there is a whole plethora of other religious practice that tends to make this remark a little callous in tone.

Add in the fact that most school districts have one or two such institutions that is close enough to attend, and one can quickly see that the private choice can leads to real and permanent indoctrination. Probably in the wrongdenomination for Christians, wrong religion for non-Christians.

That's not true. Private schools still have to adhere to government rules if they want to be accredited.

You do not live in Florida.
In Florida, you don't need accreditation to accept vouchers!!

 

[Rotagilla]

How about a candidate that advocates for the majority?

The whole country seems to hinge on what negroes and other minorities want or don't want...what they like or don't like...
Nowadays if you aren't gay, an illegal or a negro there isn't much for you in america.

 

[Rotagilla]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

That's just fascinating!...and call me "pumpkin", too!..how cute!

nevertheless....what I said was true

 

[LOki]

Maybe they can free them from slavery.

Describe the "slavery" you are talking about.

You know you can be a slave and keep 100% of the product of your labor.

Sure. That's beside the point.

Some slaves existed purely at the leisure of their owners.

So? Not in contention. Beside the point. Again.

Hence, there is no percentage--a slave at 100% and a slave at 0%.

Undistributed Middle.

Slavery is not defined by "How much is taken from the labor"

I didn't say it was, Cupcake.

Slavery is based on owning/treating people like property.

Not in contention, and beside the point. Again.

Hence treating them like a beast of labor or as a Jewel makes no difference--both situations for a human being is slavery.

Not in contention, and beside the point. Again. Still.

 

[LOki]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

That's just fascinating!...and call me "pumpkin", too!..how cute!

nevertheless....what I said was true

That's what makes you the true champion of the internet, Pumpkin.

 

[Correll]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

IMO, it was a diplomatic move designed to cut off any chance of European support for the South, given after a victory so as to NOT appear as a sign of weak

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!

Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.

1) Actually it does not. If it did, you best schools would not be private(at least, before the voucher system in Florida)

2)The result in Florida was not better quality private schools, just more unregulated schools. Not one having to submit to the requirements placed on public..Yes, there are even a few "teenage-sitting" facilities that does attempt to provide any form of education.

3)I said "religious" not specifically Christian. Also, understand, not every Christian is found of Catholic teaching. Jews do not want their indoctrinated in Christianity(Christians do not want their kids indoctrinated in Judaism) Plus there is a whole plethora of other religious practice that tends to make this remark a little callous in tone.

Add in the fact that most school districts have one or two such institutions that is close enough to attend, and one can quickly see that the private choice can leads to real and permanent indoctrination. Probably in the wrongdenomination for Christians, wrong religion for non-Christians.

1. How does giving away stuff free not destroy the market for people who would want to sell that stuff?

2. Link.

3. So....

 

[Rotagilla]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

That's just fascinating!...and call me "pumpkin", too!..how cute!

nevertheless....what I said was true

That's what makes you the true champion of the internet, Pumpkin.

Again..that's just fascinating!...but let's not talk about me...Do you have anything relevant to the topic you'd like to add?

 

[Mac1958]

"...do for..." is the very crux of the problem, and the reason why American Blacks as a group have not reached their potential.

Maybe we should stop victimizing them by "doing for" them. Something tells me they'd "do" great on their own.
.

 

[amrchaos]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

Don't depend on the government to fulfill your life. I'm happy no matter who is in charge because none of these idiots will ever define my life.

You are a bit idealistic in your politics. Maybe you are a Libertarian deep down?

I, and most people, are realist. I believe there should exist a trade off for my vote. Does that mean wealth re-distribution? Usually no--but I prefer more rights to live my life without government intervention.

 

[Rotagilla]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

IMO, it was a diplomatic move designed to cut off any chance of European support for the South, given after a victory so as to NOT appear as a sign of weak

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!

Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.

1) Actually it does not. If it did, you best schools would not be private(at least, before the voucher system in Florida)

2)The result in Florida was not better quality private schools, just more unregulated schools. Not one having to submit to the requirements placed on public..Yes, there are even a few "teenage-sitting" facilities that does attempt to provide any form of education.

3)I said "religious" not specifically Christian. Also, understand, not every Christian is found of Catholic teaching. Jews do not want their indoctrinated in Christianity(Christians do not want their kids indoctrinated in Judaism) Plus there is a whole plethora of other religious practice that tends to make this remark a little callous in tone.

Add in the fact that most school districts have one or two such institutions that is close enough to attend, and one can quickly see that the private choice can leads to real and permanent indoctrination. Probably in the wrongdenomination for Christians, wrong religion for non-Christians.

1. How does giving away stuff free not destroy the market for people who would want to sell that stuff?

2. Link.

3. So....

I agree about the reason for the "emancipation proclamation" as a method to discourage france or maybe england from coming to our side...Everyone knows lincoln couldn't have cared less about the negroes in the first place.He said so himself.....If the war of northern aggression was really fought to "preserve" or "end slavery", he would have "emancipated" them on the first dayt...not a couple years later when the idea came to him....

Being a politician, he cynically used the "proclamation" to weaponize negroes in the south to destabilize it...With the men away fighting the federal invaders, lincoln knew the negroes would run wild in some areas after being "freed"...and, of course, they did.

 

[LOki]

Free them from slavery.

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

That's just fascinating!...and call me "pumpkin", too!..how cute!

nevertheless....what I said was true

That's what makes you the true champion of the internet, Pumpkin.

Again..that's just fascinating!...but let's not talk about me...Do you have anything relevant to the topic you'd like to add?

Well, I though Republicans might be able to free blacks from slavery, but there's no competing with your internet kung-fu.

 

[Timmy]

The republicans harbor / promote racists . And that's deal breaker .

It's not just blacks . All minorities run from the GOP .

 

[Rotagilla]

except in the border states, and the 2 states in the union that still held slaves...and in new orleans (for some reason).

the "emancipation proclamation" was a fraud and didn't legally free any slaves in the south. The south was a sovereign nation and "proclamations" by foreign presidents carry no weight.

OK, Pumpkin. Republicans can't free slaves in border states, 2 Union states, New Orleans (for some reason), or other sovereign nations. You win.

The internet.

Yay.

That's just fascinating!...and call me "pumpkin", too!..how cute!

nevertheless....what I said was true

That's what makes you the true champion of the internet, Pumpkin.

Again..that's just fascinating!...but let's not talk about me...Do you have anything relevant to the topic you'd like to add?

Well, I though Republicans might be able to free blacks from slavery, but there's no competing with your internet kung-fu.

That's fascinating...We aren't talking about me, though....Do you have anything relevant to the topic you'd like to add?

 

[Misty]

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

Why does anyone have to do anything for anyone. Do for yourself. That's the only way to be truly free.

As an individual--that is okay for you to think that way. It is healthy if you are truly independent and self-sufficient.

But if represented a political party--You want my vote but you are telling me to F### Off? There is a joke here, right? I have an idea, try electing yourself!

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!

Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.

1) Actually it does not. If it did, you best schools would not be private(at least, before the voucher system in Florida)

2)The result in Florida was not better quality private schools, just more unregulated schools. Not one having to submit to the requirements placed on public..Yes, there are even a few "teenage-sitting" facilities that does attempt to provide any form of education.

3)I said "religious" not specifically Christian. Also, understand, not every Christian is found of Catholic teaching. Jews do not want their indoctrinated in Christianity(Christians do not want their kids indoctrinated in Judaism) Plus there is a whole plethora of other religious practice that tends to make this remark a little callous in tone.

Add in the fact that most school districts have one or two such institutions that is close enough to attend, and one can quickly see that the private choice can leads to real and permanent indoctrination. Probably in the wrongdenomination for Christians, wrong religion for non-Christians.

That's not true. Private schools still have to adhere to government rules if they want to be accredited.

You do not live in Florida.
In Florida, you don't need accreditation to accept vouchers!!

Most colleges will not accept a diploma from a non accredited school. So that will have to be changed.

 

[amrchaos]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

It's a little of both.

He doesn't want to talk about why blacks need republicans to help them.

For 80 years or more, they've followed the Democrats who are supposed to be helping them. You would think they would have been helped by now. That they wouldn't be needing republicans to help them. But no, the plans haven't worked and now they turn to republicans and want to know what republicans can do to help.

Apparently, armchair thinks that Republicans ought to try and out-do the democrats with plans that don't work and don't help? Yes... that's a genius plan... let's have a double-scoop of shit that don't work!

Republicans have plans that work. Tell us about them, please!!

No really, tell us about these plans that work. Most f the things I am hearing from conservatives is bitching about Democrats and their brainwashing of Blacks. Oh, and the 'fact' Blacks are stupid!!

Here is a hint--instead of coming up to a Black person and calling him brainwashed or stupid for voting Democrats, Try this simple.trick.

Walk up to him and say, "Hey, what do you think about this?" and then spring your WONDEROUS conservative idea on him!!

It is simple, respectful and takes less than 5 minutes of pointless, insulting and logically flawed argument which does not get you any where!

 

[Misty]

The republicans harbor / promote racists . And that's deal breaker .

It's not just blacks . All minorities run from the GOP .

Republicans do not promote racism. That's a liberal lie.

Minorities run to democrats because they are bribed with promises of free stuff.

 

[Misty]

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.

It's a little of both.

He doesn't want to talk about why blacks need republicans to help them.

For 80 years or more, they've followed the Democrats who are supposed to be helping them. You would think they would have been helped by now. That they wouldn't be needing republicans to help them. But no, the plans haven't worked and now they turn to republicans and want to know what republicans can do to help.

Apparently, armchair thinks that Republicans ought to try and out-do the democrats with plans that don't work and don't help? Yes... that's a genius plan... let's have a double-scoop of shit that don't work!

Republicans have plans that work. Tell us about them, please!!

No really, tell us about these plans that work. Most f the things I am hearing from conservatives is bitching about Democrats and their brainwashing of Blacks. Oh, and the 'fact' Blacks are stupid!!

Here is a hint--instead of coming up to a Black person and clling him brainwashed or stupid for voting Democrats, Try this simple.

Walk up to him and say, "Hey, what do you think about this?" and then spring your WONDEROUS conservative idea on him!!

It is simple, respectful and takes less than 5 minutes of pointless, insulting and logically flawed argument which does not get you any where!

First get a job. Second think for yourself. Third have children within a family you can support. Not rocket science.

 

[Rozman]

Republicans can never do enough for blacks or Liberals....
They will always want more...
Look at the Democrat debate.
Sanders and Clinton saying vote for me and get free stuff.....

 

[Timmy]

The republicans harbor / promote racists . And that's deal breaker .

It's not just blacks . All minorities run from the GOP .

Republicans do not promote racism. That's a liberal lie.

Minorities run to democrats because they are bribed with promises of free stuff.

Another GOP miscue . Implying all blacks are on welfare . Just more dog whistle racism .