What both sides should NOT do

[BluesLegend]

How can you claim republicans are using socialism as a scare tactic when you offer evidence that it is a real issue that should be addressed? I don't buy the polling data that would indicate that most women prefer socialism so it stands to reason that republicans have a duty to examine the issues and try to educate people.

Lets be clear to the Dem's, I'm not going to be slaved out working overtime so they can confiscate MY money and use it to buy votes from the deadbeat moochers. Ask women if they want their children to grow up to be slaves working for the state.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

As both sides gear up for the 2020 election, here is what each side should NOT do:

Democrats - Stop bitching about Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything Rush Limbaugh says, but he is correct in pointing out Democrats do that more complaining about Trump than they do anything else - including legislation regarding our infrastructure, national debt, healthcare, education, military veterans etc. Democrats need to seek bipartisan legislation with Republicans, rather than insisting on having things their own way. If all the Democrats can do is bitch about Trump, they will get their butts kicked again, and deservedly so!




Republicans - Stop using socialism as a scare tactic: It's not working anymore, especially among women, today over half of women would prefer to live in a socialist country, while a majority of men would prefer to live in a capitalist one (and socialism is growing in popularity among men too!) The reasons for this is healthcare and education, 2 things America cannot - or will not - provide for its citizens. The GOP can try this scare tactic of course, but socialism is becoming more popular, it's not so scary anymore.

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

Fine with calling trump out on his BS. It should be done whenever he lies which is all the time. But it should also be done honestly and without the hyperbole which often accompanies it. There also shouldn’t be blind obstruction toward everything and anything that might be a win for trump. That’s what the Reps did to Obama and that’s what the dems are doing to trump. If this cycle continues then nothing is ever going to get done.

What "hyperbole" are you referring to? I'd be curious to see an example.

Dems have not blindly obstructed everything. Schumer and Pelosi have offered to work with Trump on the infrastructure overhaul bill, but for some stupid partisan reason, Trump has abandoned this idea.

Trump's positions are simply bad policy. What should the Dems work with him on, besides the infrastructure bill? Your attempt to compare what Repubs did to Obama to what is currently happening right now with Trump vs Democrats is disingenuous, to say the least.

 

[harmonica]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

As both sides gear up for the 2020 election, here is what each side should NOT do:

Democrats - Stop bitching about Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything Rush Limbaugh says, but he is correct in pointing out Democrats do that more complaining about Trump than they do anything else - including legislation regarding our infrastructure, national debt, healthcare, education, military veterans etc. Democrats need to seek bipartisan legislation with Republicans, rather than insisting on having things their own way. If all the Democrats can do is bitch about Trump, they will get their butts kicked again, and deservedly so!

Everything Democrats Complain About Trump Is Fixing | Rush Limbaugh | iHeartRadio


Republicans - Stop using socialism as a scare tactic: It's not working anymore, especially among women, today over half of women would prefer to live in a socialist country, while a majority of men would prefer to live in a capitalist one (and socialism is growing in popularity among men too!) The reasons for this is healthcare and education, 2 things America cannot - or will not - provide for its citizens. The GOP can try this scare tactic of course, but socialism is becoming more popular, it's not so scary anymore.

Poll: Socialism gaining in popularity

3 reasons why socialism is gaining popularity in America

a POLL--not facts

 

[B. Kidd]

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

An impeachment attempt is a clear message to half of the American electorate that the Democrat Party wants to disenfranchise their votes; and this, by a Party who opposes voter ID to begin with and supports open borders.
That would be a huge slap in the face!!!

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

I will submit the people who believe socialism is good form government have never lived in a truly socialist country. If one truly believes socialism is good thing why not simply move to such a country instead of tying to transform this country into one that would be a much quicker and easier solution for them to get the kind of life they want.

A country where 3 people have more wealth than the bottom 50% of the population is not the answer, either. The inequitable distribution of wealth between rich and poor in this country is the greatest its been since the Great Depression. Republicans are satisfied with this. Democrats are not.

No what Republiicans are not satisfied with is letting the government have control over the majority of their lives which seems to be something Democrats crave. History has shown that never works out well for the people and usually ends in a violent uprising.

More childish exaggerations. In what way do Dems want government to have control over the majority of people's lives?

 

[BluesLegend]

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

An impeachment attempt is a clear message to half of the American electorate that the Democrat Party wants to disenfranchise their votes; and this, by a Party who opposes voter ID to begin with and supports open borders.

Its not like this was the first time. They tried to steal the election from Bush in court after he beat Gore. The wanted to try again when Bush won his second term. The left only respect election results and the will of the people if they win.

 

[BluesLegend]

More childish exaggerations. In what way do Dems want government to have control over the majority of people's lives?

Lib please we can't even take a dump without the left regulating toilets, you people are insane.

 

[pknopp]

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I already know that Trump is not worthy of support. I've known that for a long time. If someone wants me support they better be telling me and showing me more than "Trump is bad".

I should support a group that simply tells me what I already know?

No, that's not what the OP is saying. He's saying the Democratic candidates should focus primarily on talking about their legislative positions, like these are normal times. That is a mistake, we are at a crossroads in this country's history.

Tell me why I should vote for you, I already know why I should not vote for Trump.

Our democracy is currently in jeopardy and 2020 could be the last election of our lifetime, especially since Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about Russia's interference. The Dem candidates can continue to talk about their policy positions, but pointing out Trump's racist and reckless behavior every single day should be their top priority.

Every election gets labelled as the "election of our lifetime" now. Tell me how you will be different.

The Dem candidates are never going to have a chance to implement their precious policies if we have no more fucking democracy. I think Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are the only Dem candidates that fully understand the threat to our democracy that Trump represents. Maybe Buttigieg as well.

As Buttigieg recently stated, being President is not just a policy job, it's a moral job as well. Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment to this country and the Dem candidates need to point that out every single day.

How do I know what the others stand for if all they do is tell me how bad Trump is?

You obviously didn't read my post carefully. The Dem candidates should talk about their policy positions, but pointing out that Trump is a racist and a danger to our democracy is much more important.

If you don't see that and you don't see how Trump is worse than previous presidents, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump is allowing Russia to attack our elections with impunity. No president has ever been this reckless.

I'm also not interested in conspiracy theories. Trump won because of one reason. Hillary.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

The Dems most certainly can impeach Trump. They just won't be able to remove him from office because they will never get enough spineless Repubs in the Senate to support it.

If the Dems do not impeach Trump, then they are setting a dangerous precedent that future presidents' reckless, dangerous, anti-democratic behavior will also go unpunished. If Trump isn't impeached, then on what grounds can a president EVER be impeached in the future?

Impeachment is the only instrument that Congress has to hold Trump accountable. Shame on the Dems if they fail to use it, even if Trump ultimately remains in office. The Dems should force the spineless Repubs in the Senate to go on the record during an impeachment trial and say that Trump should remain in office, despite all of his crimes. There may actually be a few surprises where some Repubs do the right thing and vote for removing Trump from office.

Impeachment does not make Trump a martyr. How can it, when 55% - 60% of Americans already know Trump is a racist, bullying asshole? If anything, it makes the Dems looks extremely small and weak if they don't impeach, allowing Trump to get away with this behavior. This country is already as divided as it's going to get, that argument holds no weight.

Yes, I will be thrilled if Trump is defeated next year. However, there is no guarantee that it will be a fair election with Putin intent on getting Trump re-elected. Not to mention all of the voter suppression tactics that Repugs have become very adept at. And Trump has a built-in advantage with the Electoral College, just like in 2016.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I already know that Trump is not worthy of support. I've known that for a long time. If someone wants me support they better be telling me and showing me more than "Trump is bad".

I should support a group that simply tells me what I already know?

No, that's not what the OP is saying. He's saying the Democratic candidates should focus primarily on talking about their legislative positions, like these are normal times. That is a mistake, we are at a crossroads in this country's history.

Tell me why I should vote for you, I already know why I should not vote for Trump.

Our democracy is currently in jeopardy and 2020 could be the last election of our lifetime, especially since Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about Russia's interference. The Dem candidates can continue to talk about their policy positions, but pointing out Trump's racist and reckless behavior every single day should be their top priority.

Every election gets labelled as the "election of our lifetime" now. Tell me how you will be different.

The Dem candidates are never going to have a chance to implement their precious policies if we have no more fucking democracy. I think Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are the only Dem candidates that fully understand the threat to our democracy that Trump represents. Maybe Buttigieg as well.

As Buttigieg recently stated, being President is not just a policy job, it's a moral job as well. Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment to this country and the Dem candidates need to point that out every single day.

How do I know what the others stand for if all they do is tell me how bad Trump is?

You obviously didn't read my post carefully. The Dem candidates should talk about their policy positions, but pointing out that Trump is a racist and a danger to our democracy is much more important.

If you don't see that and you don't see how Trump is worse than previous presidents, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump is allowing Russia to attack our elections with impunity. No president has ever been this reckless.

I'm also not interested in conspiracy theories. Trump won because of one reason. Hillary.

Yes, the Mueller Report is a conspiracy theory. Got it, dude.

One observation: most people are independents simply because they don't know very much. I'm afraid you fall into that category.

 

[pknopp]

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

An impeachment attempt is a clear message to half of the American electorate that the Democrat Party wants to disenfranchise their votes; and this, by a Party who opposes voter ID to begin with and supports open borders.
That would be a huge slap in the face!!!

You already have to provide an I.D. to vote.

 

[pknopp]

I already know that Trump is not worthy of support. I've known that for a long time. If someone wants me support they better be telling me and showing me more than "Trump is bad".

I should support a group that simply tells me what I already know?

No, that's not what the OP is saying. He's saying the Democratic candidates should focus primarily on talking about their legislative positions, like these are normal times. That is a mistake, we are at a crossroads in this country's history.

Tell me why I should vote for you, I already know why I should not vote for Trump.

Our democracy is currently in jeopardy and 2020 could be the last election of our lifetime, especially since Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about Russia's interference. The Dem candidates can continue to talk about their policy positions, but pointing out Trump's racist and reckless behavior every single day should be their top priority.

Every election gets labelled as the "election of our lifetime" now. Tell me how you will be different.

The Dem candidates are never going to have a chance to implement their precious policies if we have no more fucking democracy. I think Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are the only Dem candidates that fully understand the threat to our democracy that Trump represents. Maybe Buttigieg as well.

As Buttigieg recently stated, being President is not just a policy job, it's a moral job as well. Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment to this country and the Dem candidates need to point that out every single day.

How do I know what the others stand for if all they do is tell me how bad Trump is?

You obviously didn't read my post carefully. The Dem candidates should talk about their policy positions, but pointing out that Trump is a racist and a danger to our democracy is much more important.

If you don't see that and you don't see how Trump is worse than previous presidents, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump is allowing Russia to attack our elections with impunity. No president has ever been this reckless.

I'm also not interested in conspiracy theories. Trump won because of one reason. Hillary.

Yes, the Mueller Report is a conspiracy theory. Got it, dude.

One observation: most people are independents simply because they don't know very much. I'm afraid you fall into that category.

Here we go again.......make it about me as opposed to what I said. "Mueller" no longer carries any weight. None.

The emails were an internal release by someone upset with the (D)'s cheating for Hillary.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

More childish exaggerations. In what way do Dems want government to have control over the majority of people's lives?

Lib please we can't even take a dump without the left regulating toilets, you people are insane.

Like I said, childish exaggerations. If you can't point to specific examples, you should just hold your fire and not make a fool of yourself.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

No, that's not what the OP is saying. He's saying the Democratic candidates should focus primarily on talking about their legislative positions, like these are normal times. That is a mistake, we are at a crossroads in this country's history.

Tell me why I should vote for you, I already know why I should not vote for Trump.

Our democracy is currently in jeopardy and 2020 could be the last election of our lifetime, especially since Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about Russia's interference. The Dem candidates can continue to talk about their policy positions, but pointing out Trump's racist and reckless behavior every single day should be their top priority.

Every election gets labelled as the "election of our lifetime" now. Tell me how you will be different.

The Dem candidates are never going to have a chance to implement their precious policies if we have no more fucking democracy. I think Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are the only Dem candidates that fully understand the threat to our democracy that Trump represents. Maybe Buttigieg as well.

As Buttigieg recently stated, being President is not just a policy job, it's a moral job as well. Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment to this country and the Dem candidates need to point that out every single day.

How do I know what the others stand for if all they do is tell me how bad Trump is?

You obviously didn't read my post carefully. The Dem candidates should talk about their policy positions, but pointing out that Trump is a racist and a danger to our democracy is much more important.

If you don't see that and you don't see how Trump is worse than previous presidents, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump is allowing Russia to attack our elections with impunity. No president has ever been this reckless.

I'm also not interested in conspiracy theories. Trump won because of one reason. Hillary.

Yes, the Mueller Report is a conspiracy theory. Got it, dude.

One observation: most people are independents simply because they don't know very much. I'm afraid you fall into that category.

Here we go again.......make it about me as opposed to what I said. "Mueller" no longer carries any weight. None.

The emails were an internal release by someone upset with the (D)'s cheating for Hillary.

The Mueller report carries no weight? Is it false? Is the new bipartisan Senate report that says Russia is going to interfere in the 2020 election also false?

I thought you were a high-and-mighty independent who considers all of the facts?

 

[B. Kidd]

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

The Dems most certainly can impeach Trump. They just won't be able to remove him from office because they will never get enough spineless Repugs in the Senate to support it.

If the Dems do not impeach Trump, then they are setting a dangerous precedent that future presidents' reckless, dangerous, anti-democratic behavior will also go unpunished. If Trump isn't impeached, then on what grounds can a president EVER be impeached in the future?

Impeachment is the only instrument that Congress has to hold Trump accountable. Shame on the Dems if they fail to use it, even if Trump ultimately remains in office. The Dems should force the spineless Repubs in the Senate to go on the record during an impeachment trial and say that Trump should remain in office, despite all of his crimes. There may actually be a few surprises where some Repubs do the right thing and vote for removing Trump from office.

Impeachment does not make Trump a martyr. How can it, when 55% - 60% of Americans already know Trump is a racist, bullying asshole? If anything, it makes the Dems looks extremely small and weak, allowing Trump to get away with this behavior. This country is already as divided as it's going to get, that argument holds no weight.

Yes, I will be thrilled if Trump is defeated next year. However, there is no guarantee that it will be a fair election with Putin intent on getting Trump re-elected. Not to mention all of the voter suppression tactics that Repugs have become very adept at. And Trump has a built-in advantage with the Electoral College, just like in 2016.

I don't know where to begin with you.

You talk in circles. Just like the politicians that we've had for decades in this country!

You fail to appreciate that the 2020 election is a major crossroad in our country's direction.

But, I do know where to end with you.
Trump 2020, KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

 

[covfefe]

Trump loves SOCIALISM

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL PAY FARMERS $16 BILLION FOR ITS TRADE WAR
The announcement comes amid criticism of farm subsidies, which exceed revenue Trump has taken in from tariffs on Chinese imports.

https://psmag.com/news/the-trump-administration-will-pay-farmers-16-billion-for-its-trade-war

 

[covfefe]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

As both sides gear up for the 2020 election, here is what each side should NOT do:

Democrats - Stop bitching about Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything Rush Limbaugh says, but he is correct in pointing out Democrats do that more complaining about Trump than they do anything else - including legislation regarding our infrastructure, national debt, healthcare, education, military veterans etc. Democrats need to seek bipartisan legislation with Republicans, rather than insisting on having things their own way. If all the Democrats can do is bitch about Trump, they will get their butts kicked again, and deservedly so!

Everything Democrats Complain About Trump Is Fixing | Rush Limbaugh | iHeartRadio


Republicans - Stop using socialism as a scare tactic: It's not working anymore, especially among women, today over half of women would prefer to live in a socialist country, while a majority of men would prefer to live in a capitalist one (and socialism is growing in popularity among men too!) The reasons for this is healthcare and education, 2 things America cannot - or will not - provide for its citizens. The GOP can try this scare tactic of course, but socialism is becoming more popular, it's not so scary anymore.

Poll: Socialism gaining in popularity

3 reasons why socialism is gaining popularity in America

I'm an independent too and will vote for ANYONE over Trump.

 

[Slade3200]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

As both sides gear up for the 2020 election, here is what each side should NOT do:

Democrats - Stop bitching about Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything Rush Limbaugh says, but he is correct in pointing out Democrats do that more complaining about Trump than they do anything else - including legislation regarding our infrastructure, national debt, healthcare, education, military veterans etc. Democrats need to seek bipartisan legislation with Republicans, rather than insisting on having things their own way. If all the Democrats can do is bitch about Trump, they will get their butts kicked again, and deservedly so!

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Republicans - Stop using socialism as a scare tactic: It's not working anymore, especially among women, today over half of women would prefer to live in a socialist country, while a majority of men would prefer to live in a capitalist one (and socialism is growing in popularity among men too!) The reasons for this is healthcare and education, 2 things America cannot - or will not - provide for its citizens. The GOP can try this scare tactic of course, but socialism is becoming more popular, it's not so scary anymore.

Poll: Socialism gaining in popularity

3 reasons why socialism is gaining popularity in America

What a pile of crap. Independents pick a side for fuck sake. Democrats rot in hell.

Why are you so adamant about being a puppet and playing the team game? We all have brains. They are meant to be used.

We are going to give you people another beating in 2020 then mock you again after.

Ok mr puppet, thanks for sharing

 

[Slade3200]

THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

As both sides gear up for the 2020 election, here is what each side should NOT do:

Democrats - Stop bitching about Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything Rush Limbaugh says, but he is correct in pointing out Democrats do that more complaining about Trump than they do anything else - including legislation regarding our infrastructure, national debt, healthcare, education, military veterans etc. Democrats need to seek bipartisan legislation with Republicans, rather than insisting on having things their own way. If all the Democrats can do is bitch about Trump, they will get their butts kicked again, and deservedly so!




Republicans - Stop using socialism as a scare tactic: It's not working anymore, especially among women, today over half of women would prefer to live in a socialist country, while a majority of men would prefer to live in a capitalist one (and socialism is growing in popularity among men too!) The reasons for this is healthcare and education, 2 things America cannot - or will not - provide for its citizens. The GOP can try this scare tactic of course, but socialism is becoming more popular, it's not so scary anymore.

Your point of view is misguided. Here's why - you should NEVER try to normalize a racist, dangerous bully like Trump. Yes, we liberals despise Trump and he should be called out on his hateful bullshit ever single day of his disastrous Presidency.

And do you really think Dems are going to be able to work with Repugs to get any legislation passed? Were you asleep during Obama's presidency?

Regardless, trying to have a high-minded legislative policy debate when we have a fascist in the White House is absolutely pointless. Everything takes a back seat to removing Trump. No progress can be made in this country until his evil ass is gone.

I’m not a fan of president Trump, he is an entertainer and should be in that arena not a position of esteem or leadership... however I can’t agree with your assessment. All that does is validate the tit for tat that bounces right back once the dems gain power. The socialist hyperbole then takes over and it’s all about obstruction to save America from becoming Venezuela. The end result is nothing gets done. You are in the minority and the opposition party right now. You should act in a way that you’d like the republicans to act once your party is in power and they are the minority.

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

Fine with calling trump out on his BS. It should be done whenever he lies which is all the time. But it should also be done honestly and without the hyperbole which often accompanies it. There also shouldn’t be blind obstruction toward everything and anything that might be a win for trump. That’s what the Reps did to Obama and that’s what the dems are doing to trump. If this cycle continues then nothing is ever going to get done.

If for a second that you think what the Repubs did to Obama is equal to what the Dems have done to Trump, then you are a partisan delusional spinmeister!

How so?

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

I respectfully disagree. It's not "tit for tat" to call-out Trump on his racist, bullying, and traitorous behavior. If you fail to do that every day, then you are normalizing his egregious behavior and making it acceptable.

There is no more Republican Party. They have sat silently as Trump constantly makes racist, bullying comments and as he does nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections. They have completely disgraced themselves.

There is now only a fascist, evil Trump Party. And the Dems should not cooperate with the fascists in the Trump Party if they ever take back control of Congress and the White House. You don't cooperate with fascists who don't believe in democracy.

It sounds like you're the one who doesn't believe in democracy. Trump was elected President.

What's your point? So Trump should be allowed to make racists comments every day, because he was elected President? He should do nothing to prevent Russia from interfering in future elections?

Pelosi and the Dems are going to regret not impeaching this menace.

First off they can’t impeach him... second don’t you think it’s a more powerful and healthy statement for him to be kicked out of office by the American people in an election and not by the opposition party? Impeachment makes him a martyr and ensures a political civil war beyond what we’ve ever seen. Why would you want that?

The Dems most certainly can impeach Trump. They just won't be able to remove him from office because they will never get enough spineless Repugs in the Senate to support it.

If the Dems do not impeach Trump, then they are setting a dangerous precedent that future presidents' reckless, dangerous, anti-democratic behavior will also go unpunished. If Trump isn't impeached, then on what grounds can a president EVER be impeached in the future?

Impeachment is the only instrument that Congress has to hold Trump accountable. Shame on the Dems if they fail to use it, even if Trump ultimately remains in office. The Dems should force the spineless Repubs in the Senate to go on the record during an impeachment trial and say that Trump should remain in office, despite all of his crimes. There may actually be a few surprises where some Repubs do the right thing and vote for removing Trump from office.

Impeachment does not make Trump a martyr. How can it, when 55% - 60% of Americans already know Trump is a racist, bullying asshole? If anything, it makes the Dems looks extremely small and weak, allowing Trump to get away with this behavior. This country is already as divided as it's going to get, that argument holds no weight.

Yes, I will be thrilled if Trump is defeated next year. However, there is no guarantee that it will be a fair election with Putin intent on getting Trump re-elected. Not to mention all of the voter suppression tactics that Repugs have become very adept at. And Trump has a built-in advantage with the Electoral College, just like in 2016.

I don't know where to begin with you.

You talk in circles. Just like the politicians that we've had for decades in this country!

You fail to appreciate that the 2020 election is a major crossroad in our country's direction.

But, I do know where to end with you.
Trump 2020, KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

I'll be perfectly clear for your small mind - Trump is a racist and a traitor. He wants Vladimir Putin to help him steal the 2020 election because he is an anti-democratic piece of shit.

Furthermore, 90% of Trump's supporters are racists. Which means there is a 90% chance that you are also a racist.