What are you doing here?

[MizMolly]

Whining? LOL I replied to her post, I didn't whine. Her point is to always talk against whites.

What do you mean against whites? Stating facts is not against whites. Its just stating facts. To date I havent seen anything about "all whites" in her posts.

Not facts, just her opinions. She does more copy and paste or quoting from books she has read as if they are gospel.

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

But never how some blacks treat whites. One sided.

 

[Unkotare]

..... I choose to lift black people up, not put them down.....

How gracious of you, how superior. Now it all becomes clear...

 

[Gracie]

You can't "fix" anything until you acknowledge the whole machine is broken..not just one part of it. And you KNOW there are parts you defend that need to get on board to repair damage. Until you focus on ALL parts of that machine...you will get nowhere.

You, Delores, are on a mission to denigrate whites while you ignore the black problem. Is there racism? Of course. On both sides. Is there injustice? Of course. On both sides. You refuse to acknowledge that and until you do...you will continue to have tunnel vision and you will be met with the same responses folks here at USMB give you which is mostly negative. Unless that is your goal.

Until racism is removed Blacks will remain distracted. You want Blacks to fix their issues while dealing with white bullshit then you are part of the problem. I tell Blacks all the time. Whites cant stop you. They can only offer up road blocks and make noise. If you ignore them and do you....nothing they say or do can stop you.

I want blacks to fix themselves. Until they do, there will be this problem. There is no distraction except by blacks ignoring black problems.
Lead by example. Don't loot your own towns when something happens to a black man by a white cop or hispanic cop. You are looting your own people who worked hard to get that shop! Don't be in a black gang and battle or war against another black gang. Try to END the gangs.
Donate time to young boys and girls who drop out and want to make money selling drugs, by assisting them to want to stay in school. Help black women choose more wisely in having children by a man that might not stick around, then go with another one, then another one, and have multiple babies from multiple men. Teach them self respect. If you see drug activity in your neighborhood, do something about it. This is NOT a white issue. The only whites that get involved in this shit is when they are called into it by the black reporting it or being involved in it themselves.

The only roadblock being thrown up is by blacks refusing to help themselves.

 

[Asclepias]

What do you mean against whites? Stating facts is not against whites. Its just stating facts. To date I havent seen anything about "all whites" in her posts.

Not facts, just her opinions. She does more copy and paste or quoting from books she has read as if they are gospel.

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

But never how some blacks treat whites. One sided.

I thought I pointed out you cant tell her what to talk about? Why dont you write something about how Blacks treat whites and what problems it poses for whites? i'd gladly hop on your topic.

 

[MizMolly]

Not facts, just her opinions. She does more copy and paste or quoting from books she has read as if they are gospel.

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

But never how some blacks treat whites. One sided.

I thought I pointed out you cant tell her what to talk about? Why dont you write something about how Blacks treat whites and what problems it poses for whites? i'd gladly hop on your topic.

You missed my point. She constantly posts ONLY things against black people by whites. Yes, she has that right, I have the right to reply to those posts.

 

[Asclepias]

You can't "fix" anything until you acknowledge the whole machine is broken..not just one part of it. And you KNOW there are parts you defend that need to get on board to repair damage. Until you focus on ALL parts of that machine...you will get nowhere.

You, Delores, are on a mission to denigrate whites while you ignore the black problem. Is there racism? Of course. On both sides. Is there injustice? Of course. On both sides. You refuse to acknowledge that and until you do...you will continue to have tunnel vision and you will be met with the same responses folks here at USMB give you which is mostly negative. Unless that is your goal.

Until racism is removed Blacks will remain distracted. You want Blacks to fix their issues while dealing with white bullshit then you are part of the problem. I tell Blacks all the time. Whites cant stop you. They can only offer up road blocks and make noise. If you ignore them and do you....nothing they say or do can stop you.

I want blacks to fix themselves. Until they do, there will be this problem. There is no distraction except by blacks ignoring black problems.
Lead by example. Don't loot your own towns when something happens to a black man by a white cop or hispanic cop. You are looting your own people who worked hard to get that shop! Don't be in a black gang and battle or war against another black gang. Try to END the gangs.
Donate time to young boys and girls who drop out and want to make money selling drugs, by assisting them to want to stay in school. Help black women choose more wisely in having children by a man that might not stick around, then go with another one, then another one, and have multiple babies from multiple men. Teach them self respect. If you see drug activity in your neighborhood, do something about it. This is NOT a white issue. The only whites that get involved in this shit is when they are called into it by the black reporting it or being involved in it themselves.

The only roadblock being thrown up is by blacks refusing to help themselves.

There you go telling me what there is and there is not. This is why there will always be problems.

 

[Asclepias]

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

But never how some blacks treat whites. One sided.

I thought I pointed out you cant tell her what to talk about? Why dont you write something about how Blacks treat whites and what problems it poses for whites? i'd gladly hop on your topic.

You missed my point. She constantly posts ONLY things against black people by whites. Yes, she has that right, I have the right to reply to those posts.

You do have a right to reply. Reply to them. Dont whine about something she never said.

 

[MizMolly]

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

But never how some blacks treat whites. One sided.

I thought I pointed out you cant tell her what to talk about? Why dont you write something about how Blacks treat whites and what problems it poses for whites? i'd gladly hop on your topic.

You missed my point. She constantly posts ONLY things against black people by whites. Yes, she has that right, I have the right to reply to those posts.

You do have a right to reply. Reply to them. Dont whine about something she never said.

You are a funny man. Not only am I not whining. The gists of her posts is obvious.

 

[Gracie]

Whining? LOL I replied to her post, I didn't whine. Her point is to always talk against whites.

What do you mean against whites? Stating facts is not against whites. Its just stating facts. To date I havent seen anything about "all whites" in her posts.

Not facts, just her opinions. She does more copy and paste or quoting from books she has read as if they are gospel.

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

And you nor she can force anyone else to talk about your woes in your own neighborhood and the injustices you keep saying you experience while creating those injustices yourselves by not FIXING it on YOUR end. Quid pro quo.

 

[Asclepias]

What do you mean against whites? Stating facts is not against whites. Its just stating facts. To date I havent seen anything about "all whites" in her posts.

Not facts, just her opinions. She does more copy and paste or quoting from books she has read as if they are gospel.

Thats just your opinion her words arent fact. The OP looks original to me. Can you prove she quoted a book which to be technical is gospel.

Many of her posts she has excerpts from books she has read, as if they are truth, just because they are in a book. She is one sided. Like Gracie said, there are problems in all races, not just one, which seems to be Dolores' focus.

She wasnt talking about all races. You cant force her to pick the topic you want her to talk about. She was talking specifically about whites and their actions towards Blacks.

And you nor she can force anyone else to talk about your woes in your own neighborhood and the injustices you keep saying you experience while creating those injustices themselves. Quid pro quo.

Actually the mods are supposed to keep you relevant. If she says the sky is blue and you start talking about the stock market youre off topic.

 

[Gracie]

Um. Ok?

 

[MikeK]

I'm here to help you get over your inferiority complex as well as your hatred of whites.

Are you suggesting that you've found an effective treatment for the kind of deeply embedded propaganda manifest in Delores' perception of the racial issue? I will have to see it to believe it.

A substantial percentage of American negroes harbor a kind of self-loathing which is so severe it manifests in the phenomenon of Black-on-Black homicide which is common in most Black ghetto neighborhoods. Most behaviorists agree this behavior is outer-directed self-loathing -- the suicidal impulse turned outward.

This sense of self-hatred is readily projected onto Whites and is erroneously referred to via the tired, worn-out assertion of racism. The fact of this matter is if the quantum of the emotional drive known as "racism" were measurable in ounces the sum of Black hatred would far outweigh that of even the most virulent Whites. The frequency and the often psychopathic nature of Black-on-White violence in contemporary America is graphic evidence of that.

The pathological nature of Black hatred of Whites in America is plainly manifest in the lyrics of some readily available "rap" recordings which are popular with young ghetto Blacks. The following are a few samples:

Lyrics from some currently popular Black rap "artists:"
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"Kill the white people. We gonna make them hurt. Kill the white people but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha."

(Kill d'White People. Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.)

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"Niggas in the church say kill whitey all night long. The white man is the devil. The CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute. Drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. Let's go and kill some rednecks. Menace Clan ain't afraid. I got the .380. The homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby. I said. I said. I said kill whitey all night long. A nigga dumping on your white ass. Fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground."

(Kill Whitey. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records.)

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"Devils fear this brand new shit. I bleed them next time I see them. I prey on these devils. Look what it has come to, Who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing, filling his body up with lead? Yah, cracker in my way. Slitting. Slit his throat. Watch his body shake. Watch his body shake. That's how we do it in the motherfucking San Francisco Bay. Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK."

(Heat--featuring Jet and Spice 1. Paris, Unleashed, 1998. Unleashed Records. Whirling Records.)

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"These devils make me sick. I love to fill them full of holes. Kill them all in the daytime, broad motherfucking daylight. 12 o'clock. Grab the Glock. Why wait for night."

(Sweatin Bullets. Brand Nubian. Everything Is Everything, 1994. Elektra Entertainment. Warner Communications.)


"A fight, a fight, a ****** and a white. If the ****** don't win then we all jump in. Smoking all America's white boys."

(A Fight. Apache Ain't Shit. 1993, Tommy Boy Music. Time Warner, USA.)

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"I kill a devil right now. I say kill whitey all nighty long. I stabbed a fuckng Jew with a steeple. I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fuck of it. Menace Clan kill a cracker, jack 'em even quicker. Catch that devil sleeping. Blow his fucking brains out."

(Fuck a Record Deal. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records. Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI.)

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"To all my Universal Soldier's. Stay at attention while I strategize an invasion. The mission be assassination. Snipers hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard ‘round the world. My plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage. See, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler. Lyrical specialist. Underworld terrorist. Keep the unity thick like mud. Pulling out gats. Launching deadly attacks."

(Blood for Blood; Killarmy, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, Wu-Tang Records.)

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"Won't be satisfied until the devils I see are all dead. My brother is sending me more guns from down South, pale face. It's all about brothers rising up. Wising up. Sizing up our situation. You be fucking with my turf when you be fucking with my race. Now face your maker and take your last breath. The time is half-past death. It's the Armageddon. Go into the garage. Find that old camouflage. Cracker-shooting nightly."

(What the Fuck. Brand Nubian. Everything Is Everything. Elektra Entertainment. Warner Communications. Time Warner, USA.)





"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles. They found that they couldn't handle us. Bloods> CRIPS. On the same squad with the Essays (Latino gangs). And nigga, it's time to rob and mob and break the white man.

(The Day the Niggaz Took Over. Dr Dre. The Chronic, 1993. Interscope Records, under Time Warner.)

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"Bust a Glock; devils get shot. When God give the word me herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood. Watch me blast. I'm killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina each and everyday. Don't bust until you see the whites of his eyes. The whites of his skin. Louis Farrakhan . Bloods and CRIPS and little old me. And we all getting ready for the enemy."

(Enemy. Ice Cube. Lethal Injection. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group), United Kingdom.)

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"Devil, to gangbanging there's a positive side and the positive side is this: Sooner than later the brothers will come to Islam and they will be the soldiers for the war. What war, you ask? Armageddon. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha."

Armageddon, RBX. The RBX Files. Premeditated Records. Warner Brother Records, Time Warner, USA. )

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"Subtract the devils that get smoked. We're people. Black people steal your mind back. Don't die in their wilderness. Let's point our heaters the other way.

(Dial 7. Diggable Planets. Blowout Comb, 1994. Pendulum Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)








"Get them devil-made guns and leave them demons bleeding. Give them back whips and just feed them bullets."

(Wicked Ways. Sunz of Man. One Million Strong. The Album, 1995, Mergela Records,Solar/Hines Co., Prolific Records.)

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"It's time to send the devil to the essence. This is a must because there ain't no reform or trust. You get a Glock, you see a devil, bust. They'll be calling us the trigger men. The nappy-knotty red-beard devil-assassin. Lord make a law. At midnight I'll be bashing. Field niggas are locked in until 2005."

(Field Niggaz in a Huddle. Professor Griff. Blood of the Prophet. Lethal Records.)

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"He preys on old white ladies who drive the Mercedes with the windows cracked. You should've heard the bitch scream. Sticking guns in crackers' mouths. The cops can't stop it. Remember 4-29-92. Come on. Florence and Normandy coming to a corner near you. Cracker, we've been through your area. Mass hysteria. Led by your motherfucking Menace Clan."

(Mad Nigga. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records.)

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"The black man is god. Buy a Tec and let loose in the Vatican. I love the black faces. So put your Bible in the attic."

(Ain't No Mystery; Brand Nubian, In God We Trust, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)







"Dropping verses. Casting curses. Throwing these hexes on the devils. Respect to Farrakhan. But I'm the jungle-don. The new guerrilla. Top-ranked honky killer. What do blacks do. They just keep on blowing devils away. Devil fucking cracker. I'm tightening up the laces to my steel-toed boots. So I can walk. Stomp. We stomp this devil down in the park."

(Planet of da Apes. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)

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"We're having thoughts of overthrowing the government. The brothers and sisters threw their fists in the air. It's open season on crackers, you know. The morgue will be full of Caucasian John Doe's. I make the riot shit look like a fairy tale. Oh my god, Allah, have mercy, I'm killing them devils because they're not worthy to walk the earth with the original black man. They must be forgetting; it's time for Armageddon. And I won't rest until they're all dead."

(Goin Bananas. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)

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"The crackers ain't shit. Chase them out of the jungle. Now raise up off the planet. We get the 12 gauge; shot to the chest. We hitting devils up. Da Lench Mob. Environmental terrorist. I gripped the Glock and had to knock his head from his shoulders. I got the 30.06 on the rooftop. Pop, pop. So many devils die. Make sure I kill them. Lynch a thousand a week if it's necessary."

(Environmental Terrorist. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records.)

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"Fuck them laws because the Mob is coming raw. Nigga, is you down because it's the Final Call. Grab your gat. Know the three will start busting. I'm trying to take them down. The war of wars with no fucking scores. April 29 was a chance to realize . The g.'s are out to kill. We got crackers to kill. Wending them back in on a ship to Europe. They deserve it. A nation-wide riot across America. This is the Final Call on black man and black woman. Rich and poor, rise up."

(Final Call Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records.)

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"Deal with the devil with my motherfucking steel . White man is something I tried to study. But I got my hands bloody. Yeah. I met Farrakhan and had dinner."

(When Will They Shoot. Ice Cube. The Predator. Priority Records.)

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"I pledge allegiance to only the black. Black, you had best prepare for the coming of war. Look at you devil. Now you're sweating. I'm telling you. You can't run from the hand of Armageddon. He eats his pig-steak rare so he can taste the blood."

(No Time. RBX. The RBX Files. Premeditated Records. Warner Brother Records. Time Warner, USA.)

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"Buck the devil; boom. Shoot you with my .22. I got plenty of crew. I take out white boys. We got big toys with the one-mile scope. taking whitey's throat."

(Buck tha Devil. Da Lench Mob. Guerrillas in tha Mist. Eastwest Records America. Elektra. Atlantic. Time Warner, USA.)


"Camouflaged for the mission. Become Bonnie and Clyde. Carry .45's in these last days. An original black man with a plan to run these devils off our motherfucking land. The Sunz of Man war track. Kept gun in hand, stalking the land."

(Can I See You. Sunz of Man. Threat Records.)

"I'm black with a bat, swinging at the head of a honky. The Terrorists about to murder your ass."

(Blow Dem Hoes Up. The Terrorists. Rap-A-Lot Records.)

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"Waiting for the crackers. Smuggle his mug is in the gutters. So we need your participation in the Caucasian assassination. Time is wasting. So who is in association with the ****** retaliation. It needs your total cooperation. A confrontation will be fought by the younger generation Because we got determination. All we need is organization."

(Purse Snatchers. Rush Associated Labels Recordings.)

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"The real black army is in jail. Come on my fellow prisoners. time to go to war. What we need to do is point the guns in the right direction. Me and my piece came to claim the brown man's cut. Infiltrate until it burns down. what we need to be talking about is what we gonna do to them. I'll get revenge if it's the last thing I do. they got us brainwashed to be the minority. but when we kill them off we gonna be the majority. If the whites speak up then I'll lead my people. Because two wrongs don't make it right but it damn sure make us equal. I'm inciting riots so let's start the looting. In this revolution I loathe my enemy."

(2 Wrongs. Rush Associated Labels Recordings.)

 

[Gracie]

If whites wrote shit like that, they would be drummed out of business.

Sick.

But don't hold your breath for Delores to find fault with any of those "lyrics".

 

[MikeK]

If whites wrote shit like that, they would be drummed out of business.

Sick.

True. Yet contemporary Whites, the vast majority of whom harbor no animosity toward Blacks, are constantly berated for their perceived "racism." And have no doubt there are many Blacks who will dismiss the vivid psychopathy and murderous wishes reflected in those lyrics as unimportant and having nothing to do with reality. But those are the very real thoughts of the current generation of those young American Blacks who buy these recordings, mimic the lyrics, and idolize the performers who do their thinking for them. These lyrics are not jokes. There is nothing funny about them and they fuel the kind of behavior seen in this video:

But don't hold your breath for Delores to find fault with any of those "lyrics".

And that's unfortunate.

 

[danielpalos]

I love to give women "heck" in the non-porn sector.

Whatever shall I do, when women insist I have to give them "heck", in the porn sector.

 

[LOIE]

If whites wrote shit like that, they would be drummed out of business.

Sick.

But don't hold your breath for Delores to find fault with any of those "lyrics".

Hello. Been sick for a few days. Just seeing all this. I'm sure you want me to say that these are terrible lyrics, so I will. Yes, they are. Nothing about the words themselves is redeemable. However, I've just been doing something I'm apparently well known for - reading a book.
It's"Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome" written by Dr. Joy Degruy. In it she has a portion called Fulfilling the Stereotype in which this very thing is addressed. The rest of this reply is from her book.

"People who believe themselves to have little worth, little power, little self-efficacy, will often do whatever they can do to don the trappings of power, even it it means acting out the demeaning roles society considers appropriate for them. Others will try to deal with such lack of esteem by finding ways to "neutralize" their pain with strategies that will enable them to turn that weakness into a sense of control.

Elaine Pinderhughes in her book, Understanding Race, Ethnicity, and Power: The Key to Efficacy on Clinical Practice, describes one of those strategies: Inspiring fear is another way of turning powerlessness into power. A Black psychologist made this point to a white colleague: My powerlessness as a Black male in the American system often leaves me with one sure way to get a sense of power - to scare you."

"Since you don't respect me, then you're gonna fear me!" These were the words expressed to me by a young man explaining why he expected white people to be afraid to drive through their neighborhood. "White people know that black people are left with the scraps, the remnants of a real society, and that since this "scrap" is all that I have, I'm going to stand on it and protect it, stating, "You white people better be scared to come through here, cause I'm a dangerous black man."

From these black men's perspective, they were just protecting their turf. Arousing fear in others through intimidation and confrontation is a widely known tactic among African Americans. The truth underlying this behavior is: If we can't inspire positive qualities such as love, admiration or respect, at least we can inspire something.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

From these black men's perspective, they were just protecting their turf. Arousing fear in others through intimidation and confrontation is a widely known tactic among African Americans. The truth underlying this behavior is: If we can't inspire positive qualities such as love, admiration or respect, at least we can inspire something.

Delores,

Too bad no one has informed them that fear is the dominant precursor of hatred. And in case you haven't noticed they've become increasingly inspirational in that regard.

 

[LOIE]

[...]

From these black men's perspective, they were just protecting their turf. Arousing fear in others through intimidation and confrontation is a widely known tactic among African Americans. The truth underlying this behavior is: If we can't inspire positive qualities such as love, admiration or respect, at least we can inspire something.

Delores,

Too bad no one has informed them that fear is the dominant precursor of hatred. And in case you haven't noticed they've become increasingly inspirational in that regard.

I haven't noticed because I don't listen to any of that music. I only see what you put up.

Know that quote "We fear others because we do not know them and we do not now them because we fear them?" I also think that we hate others because we do not know them and do not know them because we hate them.