What are some of your favorite Science Fiction movies?

Empire Strikes Back

Of course. Mental block. I generally think of that film as really the best and most pivotal of the original trilogy.

While Star Wars left itself open to a sequel, and Jedi was the wrapping up of all the loose ends leftover from Empire Strikes, Empire was the PB&J which tied the entire trilogy together into one big movie saga.

And to think, when all these movies were coming out, if only we had realized at the time that we were living through historic times and that such movies and sagas were but a passing fluke in the lexicon of Hollywood. People before and since will never live through the kinds of movies we enjoyed seeing come out from the latter 70s to the early 90s.

Blockbusters of the 80s and 90s really were the last gasps of a dying industry. Think about it--- Star Wars and the like occurred at that point which really was the juxtaposition or perfect storm between Hollywood finally having the technology to do such movies practically and affordability while still having such movie treatments left which still lay unexplored as fresh, new ideas.

Any earlier and the technology just isn't there to do such films well, and much later and Hollywood has already explored such ideas and beaten them into the ground as no longer new or original. Lucus smartly sold off the franchise to Disney, now Disney is flogging us over the heads with repetitive, tired, worn-out movie ideas.

Put simply, Hollywood is out of fresh, original ideas. They have wonderful technology now that I wish had been around years ago for many earlier films, so instead, what else can they do but continuously hit us now with remakes and squeals, unfortunately, the best ideas generally get used first and neither the writing nor acting is up to the standards they once were anymore, so the special effects now are all the movies are--- visual eye candy.
 
I've seen a lot of titles tossed out here that were "Fantasy" and "Horror(Fright)"*, but not "Sci-Fi".

A bit of chafe to sift to find the grains(wheat).

* Fantasy and Horror are two genre's that don't always (rarely) overlap with Sci-Fi.
 
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Of course. Mental block. I generally think of that film as really the best and most pivotal of the original trilogy.

While Star Wars left itself open to a sequel, and Jedi was the wrapping up of all the loose ends leftover from Empire Strikes, Empire was the PB&J which tied the entire trilogy together into one big movie saga.

And to think, when all these movies were coming out, if only we had realized at the time that we were living through historic times and that such movies and sagas were but a passing fluke in the lexicon of Hollywood. People before and since will never live through the kinds of movies we enjoyed seeing come out from the latter 70s to the early 90s.

Blockbusters of the 80s and 90s really were the last gasps of a dying industry. Think about it--- Star Wars and the like occurred at that point which really was the juxtaposition or perfect storm between Hollywood finally having the technology to do such movies practically and affordability while still having such movie treatments left which still lay unexplored as fresh, new ideas.

Any earlier and the technology just isn't there to do such films well, and much later and Hollywood has already explored such ideas and beaten them into the ground as no longer new or original. Lucus smartly sold off the franchise to Disney, now Disney is flogging us over the heads with repetitive, tired, worn-out movie ideas.

Put simply, Hollywood is out of fresh, original ideas. They have wonderful technology now that I wish had been around years ago for many earlier films, so instead, what else can they do but continuously hit us now with remakes and squeals, unfortunately, the best ideas generally get used first and neither the writing nor acting is up to the standards they once were anymore, so the special effects now are all the movies are--- visual eye candy.
No shortage of writers presenting "fresh, original ideas", rather a shortage of "Hollywood" producers and execs willing to run with "fresh, original ideas".

Few with the resource$ and ball$(?) to make "new ~ fresh" happen are willing to invest and risk making such occur.
 
Of course. Mental block. I generally think of that film as really the best and most pivotal of the original trilogy.

While Star Wars left itself open to a sequel, and Jedi was the wrapping up of all the loose ends leftover from Empire Strikes, Empire was the PB&J which tied the entire trilogy together into one big movie saga.

And to think, when all these movies were coming out, if only we had realized at the time that we were living through historic times and that such movies and sagas were but a passing fluke in the lexicon of Hollywood. People before and since will never live through the kinds of movies we enjoyed seeing come out from the latter 70s to the early 90s.

Blockbusters of the 80s and 90s really were the last gasps of a dying industry. Think about it--- Star Wars and the like occurred at that point which really was the juxtaposition or perfect storm between Hollywood finally having the technology to do such movies practically and affordability while still having such movie treatments left which still lay unexplored as fresh, new ideas.

Any earlier and the technology just isn't there to do such films well, and much later and Hollywood has already explored such ideas and beaten them into the ground as no longer new or original. Lucus smartly sold off the franchise to Disney, now Disney is flogging us over the heads with repetitive, tired, worn-out movie ideas.

Put simply, Hollywood is out of fresh, original ideas. They have wonderful technology now that I wish had been around years ago for many earlier films, so instead, what else can they do but continuously hit us now with remakes and squeals, unfortunately, the best ideas generally get used first and neither the writing nor acting is up to the standards they once were anymore, so the special effects now are all the movies are--- visual eye candy.
I would say that that there are a few exceptions to your theory.

For example, this year's Superman, which I believe is the best superhero movie since the 1978 version but thanks to today's CGI could do and show a whole bunch of things the 1978 one couldn't do and really felt like a comic book come to life on the big screen rather than a "realistic" take on the character, with said realism being completely determined by what they could do at the time.

Also, the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit trilogies could not have been done on the same scale and order of magnitude before the 2000s. Same goes for most of the Marvel and DC superhero movies.

But I wholeheartedly agree with you that the late 1970s to the early 1980s -- not so much the early 1990s, but I can go with that -- was a period unparalleled in Hollywood history and that we likely won't see again.
 
No shortage of writers presenting "fresh, original ideas", rather a shortage of "Hollywood" producers and execs willing to run with "fresh, original ideas".

Few with the resource$ and ball$(?) to make "new ~ fresh" happen are willing to invest and risk making such occur.
What kinds of "fresh, original ideas" do you want to see?
 
For example, this year's Superman, which I believe is the best superhero movie since the 1978 version but thanks to today's CGI could do and show a whole bunch of things the 1978 one couldn't do and really felt like a comic book come to life on the big screen rather than a "realistic" take on the character, with said realism being completely determined by what they could do at the time.
None of the Superman movies really did it for me, but then, I was never a Superman fan in the comics. I suppose the 1950s TV show with George Reeves was the best iteration of Superman I've seen.

Same with King Kong, however, there have been a few impressive remakes of Godzilla, including one from 2014 I believe which is phenomenal if your speakers have true subsonic capability.

Also, the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit trilogies could not have been done on the same scale and order of magnitude before the 2000s.
I'd have to probably agree. They definitely eked their way in to the trailing end of the mega-sequels. Not that they still cannot occur, just that they will tend to be farther in-between and more repetitive.
 
None of the Superman movies really did it for me, but then, I was never a Superman fan in the comics. I suppose the 1950s TV show with George Reeves was the best iteration of Superman I've seen.

Same with King Kong, however, there have been a few impressive remakes of Godzilla, including one from 2014 I believe which is phenomenal if your speakers have true subsonic capability.


I'd have to probably agree. They definitely eked their way in to the trailing end of the mega-sequels. Not that they still cannot occur, just that they will tend to be farther in-between and more repetitive.
The current Godzilla series starting from 2014 has been very impressive. It's American Godzilla done right, unlike that travesty from 1998.

In fact, both Godzilla and King Kong are reigning kings at the box office. The last two installments with Godzilla and Kong are the best of the series.
 
What kinds of "fresh, original ideas" do you want to see?
At this moment not much specific comes to mind.
Perhaps some parts of my Geminga Scenario thread, in the History portion of this board/forum, (though I might have to assist in the screen-play writings), which I've toyed with writing a book or two which would likely have to be a blend of fiction and non-fiction.
The Geminga Scenario

As for other ideas, I might have to get a copy of this to work with;

Plotto: The Master Book of All Plots​

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A classic how-to manual, William Wallace Cook's Plotto is one writer's personal theory--"Purpose, opposed by Obstacle, yields Conflict"--painstakingly diagrammed through hundreds of situations and scenarios

In the 1920s, dime store novelist William Wallace Cook painstakingly diagramed and cataloged his personal writing method—“Purpose, opposed by Obstacle, yields Conflict”—for the instruction and illumination of his fellow authors. His effort resulted in an astonishing 1,462 plot scenarios, and Plotto: The Master Book of All Plots was born. A how-to manual for plot, hailed by the Boston Globe as “First aid to troubled riters,” Plotto influenced Erle Stanley Gardner, author of the Perry Mason books, and a young Alfred Hitchcock.

At first glance, Plotto operates with a machinelike logic, but from its endless amalgamations writers will find inspiration for narratives with limitless possibility. Open the book to any page to find plots you may never have known existed--from morose cannibals to gun-wielding preachers to phantom automobiles.

Equal parts reference guide and historical oddity, Plotto is sure to amaze and delight writers for another hundred years.
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5th Element. It has it all.

I have to admit that 5th Element had a lot of potential, but where it really lost me was when it got to the cosmic being of the universe, and all it turned out to be was some skinny, flat-chested girl in a skimpy outfit who was an apparent idiot.
 
At this moment not much specific comes to mind.
Perhaps some parts of my Geminga Scenario thread, in the History portion of this board/forum, (though I might have to assist in the screen-play writings), which I've toyed with writing a book or two which would likely have to be a blend of fiction and non-fiction.
The Geminga Scenario

As for other ideas, I might have to get a copy of this to work with;

Plotto: The Master Book of All Plots​

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A classic how-to manual, William Wallace Cook's Plotto is one writer's personal theory--"Purpose, opposed by Obstacle, yields Conflict"--painstakingly diagrammed through hundreds of situations and scenarios

In the 1920s, dime store novelist William Wallace Cook painstakingly diagramed and cataloged his personal writing method—“Purpose, opposed by Obstacle, yields Conflict”—for the instruction and illumination of his fellow authors. His effort resulted in an astonishing 1,462 plot scenarios, and Plotto: The Master Book of All Plots was born. A how-to manual for plot, hailed by the Boston Globe as “First aid to troubled riters,” Plotto influenced Erle Stanley Gardner, author of the Perry Mason books, and a young Alfred Hitchcock.

At first glance, Plotto operates with a machinelike logic, but from its endless amalgamations writers will find inspiration for narratives with limitless possibility. Open the book to any page to find plots you may never have known existed--from morose cannibals to gun-wielding preachers to phantom automobiles.

Equal parts reference guide and historical oddity, Plotto is sure to amaze and delight writers for another hundred years.
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So nothing is really fresh or original because everything is based on a tried-and-true formula.
 
I have to admit that 5th Element had a lot of potential, but where it really lost me was when it got to the cosmic being of the universe, and all it turned out to be was some skinny, flat-chested girl in a skimpy outfit who was an apparent idiot.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets did it much better. Plus it has Herbie Hancock in it!
 
So nothing is really fresh or original because everything is based on a tried-and-true formula.
The Plotto ref shows about 1,462 plot scenarios, outlines basically.
How the scenario/outline is fleshed out is what makes the story fresh or original. IMO
The play/movie West Side Story could be seen as another version of Romeo and Juliette with setting about 500 years later and as a musical.

My original post was regarding the trend in "Hollywood" to rehash older film ideas/plots that worked (made money) in a change of costume more than setting or substance.
 
What kinds of "fresh, original ideas" do you want to see?
Upon further consideration, there are a few I've often thoought should be and could be good movies based on existing Sci-Fi.
These are by my favorite author Robert Heinlein. I'd hope they don't get mangled into garbage the way they did with Starship Troopers.
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Stranger in a Strange Land - Wikipedia

Stranger in a Strange Land is a 1961 science fiction novel by the American author Robert A. Heinlein. It tells the story of Valentine Michael Smith, a human who comes to Earth in early adulthood after being born on the planet Mars and raised by Martians, and explores his interaction with and eventual transformation of Terran culture.
[IIRC Film Rights have been bought and traded hands a few times, but nothing produced yet.]

Glory Road - Wikipedia

Glory Road is a science fantasy novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein, originally serialized in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction (July – September 1963) and published in hardcover the same year. It was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1964.

In the novel, an unemployed war veteran with a facial scar responds to a newspaper ad and is hired to join a quest to retrieve the Egg of the Phoenix. After fighting the Egg's guardian Cyrano de Bergerac, the character and his employers retrieve the Egg and escape. The character marries his employer Star and moves with her to an alternate universe. Star is an Empress whose life has been extended indefinitely by medical treatments, and the Egg contains the knowledge and experiences of her predecessors. Bored with the life of the idle rich which he experiences, the main character returns to planet Earth and seeks another adventure.

The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress - Wikipedia

The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is a 1966 science fiction novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein about a 2075 revolt by a lunar penal colony against Earth's rule. Three million "Loonies" (lunar inhabitants) live in underground cities where a virtually anarcho-capitalist society has developed. When the Federated Nations threaten the colony's resources, computer technician Manuel "Mannie" O'Kelly-Davis, political agitator Wyoming Knott, and rational-anarchist Professor Bernardo de la Paz join forces with "Mike," a self-aware supercomputer, to plan an independence movement timed to culminate on July 4, 2076.

The novel explores libertarian ideals, focusing on the concepts of individual liberty, voluntary association, and free-market economics. The book also popularized the term TANSTAAFL ("There Ain't No Such Thing As a Free Lunch"), which in the story underscores the Moon's harsh reality that every resource and every freedom carries a cost. The book is respected for its credible presentation of a comprehensively imagined future human society on both the Earth and the Moon.
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All three could be readily updated with current tech incorporated with little to no substantial change to plot, theme, message, and/or characters. With modern cgi and sfx they should turn a nice profit, or better.

[BTW, there are a couple of concepts from Glory Road that were adopted by Dungeons and Dragons]
 
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My favorites include The Planet of The Apes, The Omega Man, Soylent Green, Alien, Blade Runner, Aliens and Independence Day.
Blade Runner

Alien (the original)

The Thing (John Carpenter's version)

Gattaca

The Matrix (Only the first, the rest suck)

The Fifth Element

They Live ("I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")

Planet of the Apes (the original)
 
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Upon further consideration, there are a few I've often thoought should be and could be good movies based on existing Sci-Fi.
I am dying to see Snow Crash made into a movie, but I am near certain Hollywood would **** it up. Maybe it's for the best they don't try.

Best science fiction novel ever.
 
Slightly off topic:

But the series now running on Apple TV called “Pluribus,” is well worth watching as each episode unfolds.

Without revealing much, a radio signal picked up on Earth with some frequency encoded transmits some kind of virus to almost every person on Earth. But no zombie bullshit.

They merely become relatively happy one hive-mind entity (akin to our leftists except the infection in Pluribus makes the hive-minded people happy).
I'm waiting for the last episode to air on December 26. Then I'm going to binge watch it.
 
oh yeah, gremlins when you were a kid, cute little guys and they turned into monsters!

nightmare on elm street, yeah that was spooky as a kid

poltergeist as well, saw that as a kid too

hellraiser in the theater, that was freaking weird, that cube

oh yeah, phantasm with that metal flying ball with the blade was freaking weird too
None of those are science fiction.
 

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