Were there Moscow Soviet troops in the Vietnam War?

[Litwin]

I am not going to play tit-for-tat silly and childish games. The French colonized Indochina, ie. Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. It was Ho Chi Minh's communists who gained independence from France. The U.S. didn't help them, in fact, the U.S. wanted to keep Vietnam under foreign rule so they sabotaged Vietnam's Democratic elections and started a war. Vietnam won the war and gained their independence for a second time. The U.S. lost the war and had to high-tail it out of there. End of story.

" It was Ho Chi Minh's communists who gained independence from France. " was a Marxist genocidal criminal gang , France was a democracy , its clear that USA´d support France against Marxist satanist gangs

Vietnam's Christians persecuted as state sees hidden enemy ...
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Oct 15, 2004 — Vietnam's Christians persecuted as state sees hidden enemy ... Christian groups in America dubbed it the "Easter Massacre", and the ...

Persecution of the Montagnard in Vietnam - Wikipedia
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The native inhabitants of the Central Highlands of Vietnam are known as the Montagnard. ... Religious and ethnic groups are oppressed by the Vietnamese government according to the Montagnard Foundation. ... The Montagnards were subjected to genocide after the Vietnam War in 1975. ... Easter Massacre Vigil: Reps.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

 

[Litwin]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

Marxists gangs have never won any Free Democratic National Election, even afro - asinas dont vote for own slavery , GULAGS and extreme poverty

 

[Litwin]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

Reporter: So how many people have you killed?
Lauri Torni: None, I've only killed commies.

 

[GLASNOST]

View attachment 409237Picture of U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) troops with Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam when Ho’s Viet Minh liberation front was fighting Japanese imperialists.

We could have chosen to fight on the winning side. Instead we supported and financed the French re-colonization of the country after WWII ended. After the French were defeated we supported the corrupt Catholic Diem family in the South, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars, advisors and ultimately millions of troops into the country.

Eisenhower admitted Ho Chi Minh would have won some 80% of the vote had scheduled elections been held in 1955. Instead twenty years and three million deaths later, Vietnamese Communist soldiers took Saigon by force.

Remembering Ho Chi Minh’s 1945 Declaration of Vietnam’s Independence

The only point I might disagree with is your statement, "After the French were defeated we supported the corrupt Catholic Diem family in the South, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars, advisors and ultimately millions of troops into the country." I would have said, we "propped up" the corrupt Catholic Diem family ..." which was a continuation of Christian favouritism introduced by the French.

 

[Litwin]

View attachment 409237Picture of U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) troops with Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam when Ho’s Viet Minh liberation front was fighting Japanese imperialists.

We could have chosen to fight on the winning side. Instead we supported and financed the French re-colonization of the country after WWII ended. After the French were defeated we supported the corrupt Catholic Diem family in the South, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars, advisors and ultimately millions of troops into the country.

Eisenhower admitted Ho Chi Minh would have won some 80% of the vote had scheduled elections been held in 1955. Instead twenty years and three million deaths later, Vietnamese Communist soldiers took Saigon by force.

Remembering Ho Chi Minh’s 1945 Declaration of Vietnam’s Independence

The only point I might disagree with is your statement, "After the French were defeated we supported the corrupt Catholic Diem family in the South, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars, advisors and ultimately millions of troops into the country." I would have said, we "propped up" the corrupt Catholic Diem family ..." which was a continuation of Christian favouritism introduced by the French.

" Catholic Diem family in the South, " you want to support Marxism slave totalitarian gang with GULAGs , i am 100% sure you support Kim´s family as well

 

[Litwin]

Muscovites are barbarians, once they introduce this statnism in afro - asia it turned lives lockals into the pure hell

 

[harmonica]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

..the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections---it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National
...South Vietnam had 3 head of state changes in 2 years--one was a MURDER---and the US turned a blind eye to MURDER!!! of a head of state
---with many other attempted coups also

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

..the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections---it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National
...South Vietnam had 3 head of state changes in 2 years--one was a MURDER---and the US turned a blind eye to MURDER!!! of a head of state
---with many other attempted coups also

the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections-

That's awful!!

it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National

After the Commies won, how many country wide elections did they have?

 

[GLASNOST]

..the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections---it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National ...

I think you need to repeat that. Much louder this time. There's a whole lot of people on this forum who can't hear you through the propaganda earplugs they've got wedged 12 yards into their skulls. They have this idea that there were two nations over there, across the South China Sea, and that the U.S. was sent over there by the UN to prevent one of them from invading the other one. LOL!

 

[Litwin]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956.

When did North Vietnam hold their free elections?

Is there something you want to say?

Yes, Commies suck.

..the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections---it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National
...South Vietnam had 3 head of state changes in 2 years--one was a MURDER---and the US turned a blind eye to MURDER!!! of a head of state
---with many other attempted coups also

the US/Diem did not allow/etc the elections-

That's awful!!

it was supposed to be a country wide election-the WHOLE of Vietnam = National

After the Commies won, how many country wide elections did they have?

" After the Commies won, how many country wide elections did they have? " who´d vote for own slavery and GULAG for children ? one for sure, the commies the worst possible choice

" RVN government implemented a Stalinist dictatorship of the proletariat in the South as they did in the North. All religions had to be re-organized into state-controlled churches. "

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

" who´d vote for own slavery and GULAG for children ?

Many stupid American liberals.....but then I repeat myself.

 

[Litwin]

" who´d vote for own slavery and GULAG for children ?

Many stupid American liberals.....but then I repeat myself.

" Many stupid American " i call them useful idiots


In 1961, American journalist Frank Gibney wrote that Lenin had coined the phrase "useful idiot". Gibney wrote that the phrase was a good description of "Communist follower" from Jean-Paul Sartre to left-wing socialists in Japan to members of the Chilean Popular Front.

Useful idiot - Wikipedia

 

[Hossfly]

In February 1966, a hardcore VC battalion breached the fence adjacent to the 5th Cavalry. We had 55 gallon drums of aviation fuel every 25 meters apart along the fence with Claymores strapped to them. We fried all but about 50 of them who didn't make it 50 meters inside the fence. In the morning we discovered 2 Russian advisors at the fence, cooked well done. This happened at An Khe in the central highlands part of the country.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

And thanks to those two bastard warmongers LBJ and DICK Nixon,the elite got the vietnam war they wanted from those two mass murderers of over 58,000 men.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.

The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?

Well done.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I am not going to play tit-for-tat silly and childish games. The French colonized Indochina, ie. Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. It was Ho Chi Minh's communists who gained independence from France. The U.S. didn't help them, in fact, the U.S. wanted to keep Vietnam under foreign rule so they sabotaged Vietnam's Democratic elections and started a war. Vietnam won the war and gained their independence for a second time. The U.S. lost the war and had to high-tail it out of there. End of story.

Excellent summary,well done.

 

[GLASNOST]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

And thanks to those two bastard warmongers LBJ and DICK Nixon,the elite got the vietnam war they wanted from those two mass murderers of over 58,000 men.

American politicians, Deim, and General Motors (et. al.) … better known as the Military-Industrial Complex made heaps of money from the American tax dollar. What I find very odd is that the U.S. population didn’t (and still does not) understand this. The majority of the American population does know that there never was any strategy for “winning the war”, normally referred to as a “conflict” in order to make its involvement slippery. The general explanation is that “politics” had made a “military matter” complicated. But if the sheeple would put 2 + 2 together they might enlighten themselves and arrive at an important conclusion: The Military-Industrial Complex made money up the ying-yang ... and the war (sorry, I mean “conflict”) went on and on and on and on ……. with no “winning strategy” to be found. Duh, what could that mean? With American deaths at about 300,000 and Vietnamese deaths over 1 million dare I plunge the nation into a state of shock and tell them what that “important conclusion” is?

 

[Hossfly]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

And thanks to those two bastard warmongers LBJ and DICK Nixon,the elite got the vietnam war they wanted from those two mass murderers of over 58,000 men.

American politicians, Deim, and General Motors (et. al.) … better known as the Military-Industrial Complex made heaps of money from the American tax dollar. What I find very odd is that the U.S. population didn’t (and still does not) understand this. The majority of the American population does know that there never was any strategy for “winning the war”, normally referred to as a “conflict” in order to make its involvement slippery. The general explanation is that “politics” had made a “military matter” complicated. But if the sheeple would put 2 + 2 together they might enlighten themselves and arrive at an important conclusion: The Military-Industrial Complex made money up the ying-yang ... and the war (sorry, I mean “conflict”) went on and on and on and on ……. with no “winning strategy” to be found. Duh, what could that mean? With American deaths at about 300,000 and Vietnamese deaths over 1 million dare I plunge the nation into a state of shock and tell them what that “important conclusion” is?

58,000 Americans not 300,000.

 

[GLASNOST]

I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.

Why?

The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.

And thanks to those two bastard warmongers LBJ and DICK Nixon,the elite got the vietnam war they wanted from those two mass murderers of over 58,000 men.

American politicians, Deim, and General Motors (et. al.) … better known as the Military-Industrial Complex made heaps of money from the American tax dollar. What I find very odd is that the U.S. population didn’t (and still does not) understand this. The majority of the American population does know that there never was any strategy for “winning the war”, normally referred to as a “conflict” in order to make its involvement slippery. The general explanation is that “politics” had made a “military matter” complicated. But if the sheeple would put 2 + 2 together they might enlighten themselves and arrive at an important conclusion: The Military-Industrial Complex made money up the ying-yang ... and the war (sorry, I mean “conflict”) went on and on and on and on ……. with no “winning strategy” to be found. Duh, what could that mean? With American deaths at about 300,000 and Vietnamese deaths over 1 million dare I plunge the nation into a state of shock and tell them what that “important conclusion” is?

58,000 Americans not 300,000.

According to Guenter Lewy: