Were there Moscow Soviet troops in the Vietnam War?

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Were there Moscow Soviet troops in the Vietnam War?
answer is yes , and today is time to force Moscow bandits to pay for this, With cost of “black gold” at 15-23 dollars per barrel, the USSR economy collapsed, and the sovok itself collapsed, and the "golden" horde ("russia") budget can only be fulfilled only with oil price at $ 42.4 and higher
 

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Troops in the south, I doubt it. Advisors in the north, probably.
North Vietnam did business with the Soviets--munitions..food...various engineering stuff..and training. Advisers..probably..but not-combat. The Soviets and the Chinese did not play well with each-other--despite the ideological relationship.
Ho tended to play them off against each-other, when he could.
 

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Troops in the south, I doubt it. Advisors in the north, probably.
North Vietnam did business with the Soviets--munitions.. food...various engineering stuff.. and training. Advisers.. probably.. but not-combat. The Soviets and the Chinese did not play well with each-other--despite the ideological relationship. Ho tended to play them off against each-other, when he could.
No troops in the south, just as we sent none to Afghanistan, just money and weapons.
 
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pictures of Muscovite Marxists who killed many Americans
No way of telling whether they're in the north or the south.
they where everywhere (one why or another ) even in your city university campuses



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Soviet involvement in Vietnam was a covert deployment of Soviet troops and equipment to Vietnam and the neighboring country of Laos (and possibly Cambodia) during the Vietnam War (1955-1975). The USSR's forces in Laos were commanded by Colonel Lev Kravchenko, who gave support to the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong while testing the Nova 6 chemical weapon against local villagers. In 1991, the USSR acknowledged that up to 3,000 Soviet Army troops were stationed in Vietnam during the war, but there were certainly more Spetsnaz special forces operatives who were covertly deployed to the region. Soviet spy ships helped to warn the North Vietnamese when US Air Force bombing runs were about to take place, and Soviet crews fired SAM missiles at US planes over Thanh Hoa in 1965. During the war, the USSR gave North Vietnam medical supplies, arms, tanks, planes, helicopters, artillery, anti-aircraft missiles, and other military equipment, and an official figure stated that around 16 Soviet soldiers died during the war; several more died on classified missions, such as the 1968 invasion of Laos and the Sekong raid.
 

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I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.
Why?
The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.
Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.
The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?
 
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I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.
Why?
The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.
" The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war. "
wrong.
The Russians were offering the oriental slavery and despotism ( they have nothing else )
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The Vietnamese Gulag is the autobiography of the Vietnamese pro-democracy activist Doan Van Toai. The book focuses specifically on his arrest and ...

U.S. was offering civilization , democracy, progress, success ( S Korea is a good example )
 
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I didn't see any ..... but they had more right to be there than we did.
Why?
The Russians were offering help the U.S. was offering war.
Yes, when it came to enslaving the Vietnamese people, Russia was very helpful.
The Geneva Conference of 1954 stated that Vietnam would conduct Free Democratic National Elections in 1956. The U.S. refused to sign and instead sent troops to occupy and wage war against the Vietnamese people thus making both U.S. presence and U.S. war illegal. Is there something you want to say?
Furthermore, Ho won that election. We went into that war to, at first, support the French colony--and then to be a stick in the eye to both China and Russia.

Ho was an OSS asset during WW2..he returned flyers that had been shot down. US fliers.
To support the French...we ignored international law...we supported the French return...where the very first thing they did was release the Japanese POW's that had brutally occupied Vietnam--and made them policemen!

Yeah..we were wrong.
 

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I am not going to play tit-for-tat silly and childish games. The French colonized Indochina, ie. Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. It was Ho Chi Minh's communists who gained independence from France. The U.S. didn't help them, in fact, the U.S. wanted to keep Vietnam under foreign rule so they sabotaged Vietnam's Democratic elections and started a war. Vietnam won the war and gained their independence for a second time. The U.S. lost the war and had to high-tail it out of there. End of story.
 

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I am not going to play tit-for-tat silly and childish games. The French colonized Indochina, ie. Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. It was Ho Chi Minh's communists who gained independence from France. The U.S. didn't help them, in fact, the U.S. wanted to keep Vietnam under foreign rule so they sabotaged Vietnam's Democratic elections and started a war. Vietnam won the war and gained their independence for a second time. The U.S. lost the war and had to high-tail it out of there. End of story.
LOL...allowing for a certain amount of hyperbole..that's about what happened.

We didn't really 'hightail' though. When Hanoi left the peace table in 1972, Nixon was at his wit's end. So the good Quaker carpet bombed Hanoi over the Christmas holidays.

Linebacker 2. After that...a deal was struck..Peace with Honor--I believe was the slogan...LOL! We got out..and Hanoi promised not to take the country back until we had been gone long enough. They kept their word..and then took back their country.
 

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Picture of U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) troops with Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam when Ho’s Viet Minh liberation front was fighting Japanese imperialists.

We could have chosen to fight on the winning side. Instead we supported and financed the French re-colonization of the country after WWII ended. After the French were defeated we supported the corrupt Catholic Diem family in the South, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars, advisors and ultimately millions of troops into the country.

Eisenhower admitted Ho Chi Minh would have won some 80% of the vote had scheduled elections been held in 1955. Instead twenty years and three million deaths later, Vietnamese Communist soldiers took Saigon by force.

Remembering Ho Chi Minh’s 1945 Declaration of Vietnam’s Independence
 
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