Were the Confederates traitors

[Unkotare]

.....They didn't seek to kill off the counterpart.
...

I guess all those guns and cannons were just for show.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederacy was formed to create a nation that would ensure slavery existed forever.

To do that they abandoned the nation they helped to create.

The Confederacy was 40 percent slave and is one of the most reprehensible nations ever formed.

It is not something to be celebrated

 

[Oddball]

I guess all those guns and cannons (sic) were just for show.

Were those guns and cannon trained to gain any territory outside the limits of the confederate states?

 

[Meathead]

That is exactly what the so-called "confederates" did. They were traitors, and they got what they deserved.

Then this is what "betrayal" looks like:

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...

The remainder details the causes of "betrayal".

 

[Oddball]

Then this is what "betrayal" looks like:

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...

The remainder details the causes of "betrayal".

Right.

The colonies were considered subordinate to the sovereign King....Those subjects overthrew that sovereign and established their own nation....By strict definition, they were "traitorous".

The union of the several states was supposedly a voluntary one....Thirteen of them decided to un-volunteer and go their own way.

 

[Unkotare]

Were those guns and cannon trained to gain any territory outside the limits of the confederate states?

The entire territory of the American Civil War was The UNITED States of America. The so-called "confederacy" was NEVER a separate nation.

 

[Quantrill]

Nobody ever taught you how to use the internet? Do you have a special computer that only goes to USMB?

It's your statement. Give the Dictionary and the definition.

You obviously never read the Supreme Court ruling.

I guess not. What does it say?

Quantrill

 

[Oddball]

The entire territory of the American Civil War was The UNITED States of America. The so-called "confederacy" was NEVER a separate nation.

And it was a supposedly voluntary union....You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of that word too.

The confederate states were brought back under force of arms, not volitional agreement.

 

[Unkotare]

It's your statement. Give the Dictionary and the definition.



I guess not. What does it say?

Quantrill

Seems like you've got a lot of work to do. Get to it.

 

[Unkotare]

And it was a supposedly voluntary union....You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of that word too.

The confederate states were brought back under force of arms, not volitional agreement.

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)

Texas v. White: States do not have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate states during the Civil War always remained part of the nation.

supreme.justia.com

 

[Quantrill]

Seems like you've got a lot of work to do. Get to it.

Seems you like to say things but when asked to present proof of them, you crawfish. I have done the work and presented evidence. You have presented nothing.

Until you do your opinion is just your opinion.

Quantrill

 

[Unkotare]

Seems you like to say things but when asked to present proof of them, you crawfish. I have done the work and presented evidence. You have presented nothing.

Until you do your opinion is just your opinion.

Quantrill

Look up there ^^^

 

[Hellbilly]

You're welcome.

You did nothing that deserves a thank you.

 

[Quantrill]

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)

Texas v. White: States do not have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate states during the Civil War always remained part of the nation.

supreme.justia.com

Whoever wrote that got the date wrong. It was 1869. And Texas vs White was not a Supreme Court decision on the legality of secession.

So, present the Supreme Court decision that argued the legality of secession. All you presented is what someone else said. And they didn't even get the date right.

Quantrill

 

[Oddball]

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)

Texas v. White: States do not have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate states during the Civil War always remained part of the nation.

supreme.justia.com

Dred Scott was a USSC ruling too.

 

[Quantrill]

Look up there ^^^

I did. See post #(74).

Quantrill

 

[Oddball]

Whoever wrote that got the date wrong. It was 1869. And Texas vs White was not a Supreme Court decision on the legality of secession.

So, present the Supreme Court decision that argued the legality of secession. All you presented is what someone else said. And they didn't even get the date right.

Quantrill

He's an "educator", who is high on his own supply and in love with the smell of his own farts.

Hasn't had a dispassionate critical thought since college, if he ever even had one then.

 

[Quantrill]

He's an "educator", who is high on his own supply and in love with the smell of his own farts.

Hasn't had a dispassionate critical thought since college, if he ever even had one then.

I understand. I'm new but learning.

Quantrill

 

[Unkotare]

You did nothing that deserves a thank you.

I didn't personally. My family didn't get here until all that was settled. But on behalf of The United States of America, you're welcome.

 

[Unkotare]

Whoever wrote that got the date wrong. It was 1869. And Texas vs White was not a Supreme Court decision on the legality of secession.

So, present the Supreme Court decision that argued the legality of secession. All you presented is what someone else said. And they didn't even get the date right.

Quantrill

You didn't even read it, did you?