Were the assassinations of R.F.K, and J.F.K ultimately good things?

[tinydancer]

OP- NO WAY, HORRIBLE. JFK would have ended Vietnam, RFK would have stomped Nixon, the 2 worst things that ever happened to the USA since the Civil War....

Oh cripes here we go. Truth out. Me and franco agreeing. He's not stupid people.He does know his shit. But it hurts when we agree.

 

[rightwinger]

JFK would have won a second term and LBJ never would have become President

RFK would have beaten Nixon

Would have saved us from two of our worst Presidents

 

[Freewill]

Nixon was far from our worse president. Yes, he did a very stupid thing with Watergate but in reality it didn't effect anyone other then those who were involved. He did the right thing and stepped down unlike some that should have and actually did hurt the country.

 

[rightwinger]

Nixon was far from our worse president. Yes, he did a very stupid thing with Watergate but in reality it didn't effect anyone other then those who were involved. He did the right thing and stepped down unlike some that should have and actually did hurt the country.

Nixon damaged he office of president for a decade. Both Ford and Clinton were afraid to overstep their leadership

 

[JakeStarkey]

Were the assassinations of R.F.K, and J.F.K ultimately good things?

Nope.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What the hell is this thread, hell I would be a democrat today if bobby and the JFK types were still around. .. teddy was an idiot always was.

 

[occupied]

Sometimes conservatives are so politically vile it just makes me sad, and then I get madder than ever at the Fascist motherfuckers. No one benefited from their untimely deaths, it was a loss America never really recovered from.

 

[Freewill]

Nixon was far from our worse president. Yes, he did a very stupid thing with Watergate but in reality it didn't effect anyone other then those who were involved. He did the right thing and stepped down unlike some that should have and actually did hurt the country.

Nixon damaged he office of president for a decade. Both Ford and Clinton were afraid to overstep their leadership

What? Can you link me to anything that supports this supposition? Anything? Even if it did that would have been yet another good thing Nixon did, by accident.

Clinton damaged the Presidency and the country like no other president before or since, in my life time.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

I don't think assassinations are a good thing. That said, it is a good question to think what if they had lived and served as Presidents. Better yet, if they were alive today.....JFK would be an outcast in the Democratic Party while Bobby would be fully embraced.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sometimes conservatives are so politically vile it just makes me sad, and then I get madder than ever at the Fascist motherfuckers. No one benefited from their untimely deaths, it was a loss America never really recovered from.

Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

 

[rightwinger]

Nixon was far from our worse president. Yes, he did a very stupid thing with Watergate but in reality it didn't effect anyone other then those who were involved. He did the right thing and stepped down unlike some that should have and actually did hurt the country.

Nixon damaged he office of president for a decade. Both Ford and Clinton were afraid to overstep their leadership

What? Can you link me to anything that supports this supposition? Anything? Even if it did that would have been yet another good thing Nixon did, by accident.

Clinton damaged the Presidency and the country like no other president before or since, in my life time.

Republican abuse of their powers of impeachment damaged the presidency in a petty attempt to "get even" for Nixon

 

[Two Thumbs]

Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

no

executing someone w/o a fair trial is just wrong and evil.


I'm certain every liberal here would agree that killing an innocent, even one related to the wrong people is just evil.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

I don't think assassinations are a good thing. That said, it is a good question to think what if they had lived and served as Presidents. Better yet, if they were alive today.....JFK would be an outcast in the Democratic Party while Bobby would be fully embraced.

JFK wouldn't have been an outcast today the democrat party would have been so different today if he lived

 

[whitehall]

"Ultimately good things"? I sense a left wing dirty tricks post.

 

[rightwinger]

Holy toledo. I can't breathe. Bobby if he had not been assassinated and no one tell me that bastard wasn't a hit man He would have changed the world.

For the worst, R.F.K was a dirty commie...

Joe McCarthy didn't think so

 

[Two Thumbs]

Thinking the assassination of a sitting US President and his brother were a good thing. Amazing.
Most people, even they may if they thought it was a good thing aren't stupid enough to admit it.

With all due respect (and I'm not referring to JFK or RFK on this), but if a man is about to cause great harm to society and the world - perhaps begin or perpetuate a war that would kill tens of thousands - you still would hold that opinion?

Hitler was elected democratically and everyone loved him at first, remember that.

[/I]

I could agree with you in regards to someone like Hitler, but that wasn't the case, was it? JFK took us to the brink with the USSR with the Cuban Missile Crisis and the USSR blinked. That was good.
The Bay of Pigs on the other hand, was a fiasco.

he also got us involved in Viet Nam

 

[occupied]

Sometimes conservatives are so politically vile it just makes me sad, and then I get madder than ever at the Fascist motherfuckers. No one benefited from their untimely deaths, it was a loss America never really recovered from.

Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

 

[whitehall]

Sometimes conservatives are so politically vile it just makes me sad, and then I get madder than ever at the Fascist motherfuckers. No one benefited from their untimely deaths, it was a loss America never really recovered from.

Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

Here's how it works. The left wing dirty tricksters post a provocative opinion regarding the murder of American politicians and when they don't get much support they invent opinions that they classify as "ultra right idiots". The fact that Lee Oswald was a left winger and Sirhan was a left winger doesn't enter into their empty heads. I guess anything is better than talking about real issues.

 

[JWBooth]

Both were in the pockets of the labor unions, and both had increasingly socialist tendencies. One such example would be R.F.K throwing his support to radical Cesar Chavez in his immoral fight against the free market.

Did their assassinations stop catastrophic presidencies?

Good for who? Certainly not their families and loved ones.
JFK was not assured re-election, his death lead to his near deification, the election of LBJ and the Vietnam war. All negatives. Additionally the death of JFK transferred much good will to Bobby and assured him a public voice that he likely would have been denied if John had not been re-elected or had a weak second term. Unlikely that Bobby would have been a candidate in 1968.

Politically, morally, and ethically, the death of John was not a positive.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Sometimes conservatives are so politically vile it just makes me sad, and then I get madder than ever at the Fascist motherfuckers. No one benefited from their untimely deaths, it was a loss America never really recovered from.

Just the ultra right idiots. That they can not even figure out Bobby and JFK were good men. I wish to god they were not killed, this country would have been so much better

Amen to that, our tendency to kill our best while our worst die comfortably of old age is an eternal shame that America can never live down.

what a load of unmitigated horseshit.

The best people thrive in America while pols have to scratch each others backs just to stay even.