Weisselberg Indicted

[lantern2814]

You haven’t been able to stay on topic this whole thread. Keep whining. Next deflection attempt /lie.....

Still waiting for that subpoena from a grand jury that Obama refused to comply with.

If not, you're the one deflecting.

You’ve been shown proof. You just spin and ignore it. That’s your problem.

 

[colfax_m]

Your quote. They did what was minimally required. Which is all they are entitled to do. Leniency? They don’t have to worry about that. Vance has to prove his case. And explain why he is criminally prosecuting something that has never been criminally prosecuted. Let’s be clear here and I’ll try to make it simple for you. Vance has no right to things he was asking for. And they used their LEGAL rights to contest that. No matter how much you whine this is a political prosecution.

Tax fraud is criminally prosecuted all the time, especially when they don't cooperate. Leniency is for those who do more than the bare minimum, which given the extent to which Trump fought their investigation with worthless arguments, they certainly don't deserve it.

Vance certainly did have a legal right to things he was asking for. The Supreme Court excoriated Trump's pathetic legal argument.

 

[colfax_m]

You’ve been shown proof. You just spin and ignore it. That’s your problem.

Nope. Some links talked about Congressional subpoenas. Since we are talking about criminal subpoenas, that's simply a distraction.

Apples and oranges.

 

[colfax_m]

Sure it does, you’re blind or ignorant

Then quote the text that does so.

Post #1353,

.Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing

Ah, so they do say that tax fraud isn't criminal.

Just like I claimed.

 

[bripat9643]

He was indicted for being a friend of Trump's.

Nope. Tax fraud. Don’t worry, people actually know what tax fraud is will handle it. You can go back to playing with your blocks.

Only because he's a friend of Trump. Otherwise, he wouldn't even have been investigated.

 

[bripat9643]

Another lie. You had no problem with Barry and holder ignoring subpoenas left and right. With actual claims of being above the law. Vance has nothing. Except another stain on his record. You calling anybody ignorant is just hilarious.

Show me the subpoena that Obama ignored from a grand jury in a criminal matter.

This should be good.

Barry ignored subpoenas from Congress, douchebag. You had no problem with that.

 

[colfax_m]

Barry ignored subpoenas from Congress, douchebag. You had no problem with that.

You realize that has nothing to do with the topic, right?

This isn't a thread about Congressional oversight of the executive.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Only because he's a friend of Trump.

Poor guy. I wonder if he more regrets being friends with the mentally ill orange slob, or committing several felonies?

 

[colfax_m]

Only because he's a friend of Trump. Otherwise, he wouldn't even have been investigated.

Kind of. The investigation was prompted by journalists picking apart financial disclosures for Trump's business. That uncovered evidence of crimes and that led to an investigation.

What you're really saying is that you're upset that he got caught.

 

[jc456]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

You don’t even know what temporary refers to! Could have been lodging during a business week and not used on weekends . For fifteen years! You have no fking clue

 

[jc456]

Only because he's a friend of Trump.

Poor guy. I wonder if he more regrets being friends with the mentally ill orange slob, or committing several felonies?

Says you, the internet Cowgirl

 

[jc456]

Sure it does, you’re blind or ignorant

Then quote the text that does so.

Post #1353,

.Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing

Ah, so they do say that tax fraud isn't criminal.

Just like I claimed.

Where?

 

[colfax_m]

Where?

1353.

 

[jc456]

Kind of. The investigation was prompted by journalists picking apart financial disclosures for Trump's business. That uncovered evidence of crimes and that led to an investigation.

What you're really saying is that you're upset that he got caught.

who got caught?

 

[colfax_m]

You don’t even know what temporary refers to! Could have been lodging during a business week and not used on weekends . For fifteen years! You have no fking clue

Yep. Dude had apartment in Manhattan for 15 years on Trump’s dime.

That’s not temporary.

It makes it taxable.

 

[Nostra]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

that’s certainly an argument his accountants would make with the govt auditors in a normal proceeding…but this of course is a witch hunt and unprecedented move…so certainly one his attorneys will be using at trial…and rhe Govt burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn’t

certainly seems reasonable the business would want him to have an apartment in town closer to the office to use so he could be readily available instead of communiting all the time from his home in the suburbs

Maybe in a normal proceedings the accountants would have sat down with auditors.

Trump’s organization refused to allow that to happen.

If he wanted to play hardball, he’ll get hardball. Just don’t complain when the prosecutors don’t cut you any slack.

well yeah...of course...but we didn't have that here....Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing.

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

The "hardball" is because Vance didn't hear what he wanted to hear.

You actually think they’ve been cooperating with Vance? Seriously?

The CFO appeared as back as 2018.

They have where they felt they had to, and fought on issues where they thought he was going to far. Which is there right, and on some issues they apparently were, like trumps personal tax returns, which they have and found zippy to charge him with and his CFO wouldn’t say what they wanted so they took this unprecedented move

He was subpoenaed, was he not?

Kinda hard to claim you’re cooperating when all you did was comply with a minimum legal obligation.

They did not cooperate. They took Vance to the Supreme Court to get the tax returns for the organization. They refused to let anyone sit down voluntarily. They refused to turn over any information unless compelled.

They didn’t cooperate. Saying otherwise is defying reality.

Link us up to where he is required to cooperate with Vance?

 

[jc456]

Your quote. They did what was minimally required. Which is all they are entitled to do. Leniency? They don’t have to worry about that. Vance has to prove his case. And explain why he is criminally prosecuting something that has never been criminally prosecuted. Let’s be clear here and I’ll try to make it simple for you. Vance has no right to things he was asking for. And they used their LEGAL rights to contest that. No matter how much you whine this is a political prosecution.

Tax fraud is criminally prosecuted all the time, especially when they don't cooperate. Leniency is for those who do more than the bare minimum, which given the extent to which Trump fought their investigation with worthless arguments, they certainly don't deserve it.

Vance certainly did have a legal right to things he was asking for. The Supreme Court excoriated Trump's pathetic legal argument.

why isn't Al Sharpton in jail or prosecuted then?

Al Sharpton and Back Taxes. Why is he not in prison?

Al Sharpton the MSNBC host and civil rights activist personally faces federal tax liens for more than $3 million in back taxes owed. Prison in his future?

www.chuckgallagher.com

 

[jc456]

You don’t even know what temporary refers to! Could have been lodging during a business week and not used on weekends . For fifteen years! You have no fking clue

Yep. Dude had apartment in Manhattan for 15 years on Trump’s dime.

That’s not temporary.

It makes it taxable.

it is if he used it temporarily. Maybe others used it as well. Again, the english language and you don't get along.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Dude had apartment in Manhattan for 15 years on Trump’s dime.

And just as important, he was there for >50% of each tax year, yet did not claim it as his primary residence.

This is a simple rule that any average Joe who has done his own taxes knows. And this guy is a CFO of a corporation. He is not going to be able to plead ignorance.

These trumpers think he should not have to follow the rules, as he deserves some sort of regal privilege by being associated with the royal trump family.

 

[jc456]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

that’s certainly an argument his accountants would make with the govt auditors in a normal proceeding…but this of course is a witch hunt and unprecedented move…so certainly one his attorneys will be using at trial…and rhe Govt burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn’t

certainly seems reasonable the business would want him to have an apartment in town closer to the office to use so he could be readily available instead of communiting all the time from his home in the suburbs

Maybe in a normal proceedings the accountants would have sat down with auditors.

Trump’s organization refused to allow that to happen.

If he wanted to play hardball, he’ll get hardball. Just don’t complain when the prosecutors don’t cut you any slack.

well yeah...of course...but we didn't have that here....Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing.

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

The "hardball" is because Vance didn't hear what he wanted to hear.

You actually think they’ve been cooperating with Vance? Seriously?

The CFO appeared as back as 2018.

They have where they felt they had to, and fought on issues where they thought he was going to far. Which is there right, and on some issues they apparently were, like trumps personal tax returns, which they have and found zippy to charge him with and his CFO wouldn’t say what they wanted so they took this unprecedented move

He was subpoenaed, was he not?

Kinda hard to claim you’re cooperating when all you did was comply with a minimum legal obligation.

They did not cooperate. They took Vance to the Supreme Court to get the tax returns for the organization. They refused to let anyone sit down voluntarily. They refused to turn over any information unless compelled.

They didn’t cooperate. Saying otherwise is defying reality.

again, they are not obligated. you love to go around is circles, that's just trolling. I believe trolling isn't allowed in here.