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Wealth Tax: Yeah! Why do Warren Buffett and Bill gates need so much money in their Trust?

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Capitalism is the corporation, government is corrupt stomping on the corporations.

pandemic is my evidence
Actually, the pandemic showed us that big corporations could stay open more often than small businesses. It's no different from how Nevada kept casinos open but wouldn't allow church services.

Big business gets preferential treatment from government, while small business gets crushed.
All government controlled every statement you made. Small businesses shut down by government fk that, that’s socialism
And why do you think that is? It's because our government serves the interests of big business. Some of that involves pushing out competition from small business.
I think the government is made up of humans that are assholes and love to watch people suffer. has nothing to do with government. It's stupid people who vote in people who brainwashed them. We are the lucky or unlucky few who aren't mesmerized by stupid politicians.
I would say it does have to do with government though. Power corrupts, and the power of government is more corrupting than most other forms.
But the government is made up of evil fks who mesmerize stupid people
 

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Raise the minimum wage until even the Poor pay enough taxes and can afford justice!
Raising the minimum wage and writing down levels of debt that can never be repaid will add billion$ to US GDP since the working class spends their income while the wealthy invest or hoard theirs.
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COVID-19 savages U.S. economy, 2020 performance worst in 74 years

Stop going deeper into debt....and pay back what you borrowed, slacker.
Tax Cut economics that only increases the debt is a right wing pastime.
Incorrect, but you knew that.

A rightwing pastime, or dream I should say, is to cut spending significant enough to pay down debt.

Time to stop increasing taxes and start decreasing spending.
 

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I would say it does have to do with government though. Power corrupts, and the power of government is more corrupting than most other forms.
But the government is made up of evil fks who mesmerize stupid people
Where I make the distinction is that some people who enter government are evil to begin with, whereas others become that way after reaching a certain level of power.
 

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I would say it does have to do with government though. Power corrupts, and the power of government is more corrupting than most other forms.
But the government is made up of evil fks who mesmerize stupid people
Where I make the distinction is that some people who enter government are evil to begin with, whereas others become that way after reaching a certain level of power.
Those others get railroaded by the evils, threats.

look at mlb and delta.working for the evils, not government
 

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I would say it does have to do with government though. Power corrupts, and the power of government is more corrupting than most other forms.
But the government is made up of evil fks who mesmerize stupid people
Where I make the distinction is that some people who enter government are evil to begin with, whereas others become that way after reaching a certain level of power.
Those others get railroaded by the evils, threats.

look at mlb and delta.working for the evils, not government
Woke corporations just figured out that identity politics divide the working class really well. It's why they push them so much. If the working class wasn't divided as much, it could unify against said evil.
 

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Raise the minimum wage until even the Poor pay enough taxes and can afford justice!
Raising the minimum wage and writing down levels of debt that can never be repaid will add billion$ to US GDP since the working class spends their income while the wealthy invest or hoard theirs.
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COVID-19 savages U.S. economy, 2020 performance worst in 74 years

Stop going deeper into debt....and pay back what you borrowed, slacker.
Tax Cut economics that only increases the debt is a right wing pastime.
Incorrect, but you knew that.

A rightwing pastime, or dream I should say, is to cut spending significant enough to pay down debt.

Time to stop increasing taxes and start decreasing spending.
All Talk? Go ahead and abolish your useless, right wing drug war as the discretionary (non-entitlement) spending that it is.
 

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Raise the minimum wage until even the Poor pay enough taxes and can afford justice!
Raising the minimum wage and writing down levels of debt that can never be repaid will add billion$ to US GDP since the working class spends their income while the wealthy invest or hoard theirs.
Pasted%20image%201611852938836.png

COVID-19 savages U.S. economy, 2020 performance worst in 74 years

Stop going deeper into debt....and pay back what you borrowed, slacker.
Tax Cut economics that only increases the debt is a right wing pastime.
Incorrect, but you knew that.

A rightwing pastime, or dream I should say, is to cut spending significant enough to pay down debt.

Time to stop increasing taxes and start decreasing spending.
All Talk? Go ahead and abolish your useless, right wing drug war as the discretionary (non-entitlement) spending that it is.
that and about another 2 trillion dollars.
 

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Raise the minimum wage until even the Poor pay enough taxes and can afford justice!
Raising the minimum wage and writing down levels of debt that can never be repaid will add billion$ to US GDP since the working class spends their income while the wealthy invest or hoard theirs.
Pasted%20image%201611852938836.png

COVID-19 savages U.S. economy, 2020 performance worst in 74 years

Stop going deeper into debt....and pay back what you borrowed, slacker.
Tax Cut economics that only increases the debt is a right wing pastime.
Incorrect, but you knew that.

A rightwing pastime, or dream I should say, is to cut spending significant enough to pay down debt.

Time to stop increasing taxes and start decreasing spending.
All Talk? Go ahead and abolish your useless, right wing drug war as the discretionary (non-entitlement) spending that it is.
that and about another 2 trillion dollars.
 

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Under socialism, the state owns workers - they are resources to be commanded. Whether the state is controlled by "the workers", or not, is irrelevant. I think that's the main thing you don't get
Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer:

The Movement to End At-Will Employment Is Getting Serious

"In most of the rest of the world, workers are protected by the 'just cause' principle, which says they can only be terminated for legitimate, documented reasons connected to poor job performance.

"But in the United States, the at-will doctrine allows bosses to arbitrarily fire employees for any reason or no reason whatsoever, with the burden of proving it was an unlawful dismissal placed on the worker."

Worker-Self-Directed-Enterprises bring the concept of "just cause" to the American workplace in addition to economic democracy benefits of deciding what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus.
 

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Yep. That's what's so dumb about it. Do you really think the average "worker" has the knowledge or judgment to decide what to produce and how to market it? Can you imagine the ridiculous results if they were empowered to do that?
German labor unions have had voting members sitting on the boards of directors of major German corporations for generations. Are you surprised or indifferent to the fact many of those corporations did not outsource millions of middle-class German jobs to China over the past forty years?
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Glad you are finally seeing that the Chinese Govt does in fact make lots of money off weapons
I see why China believes it requires weapons and weapon sales for its survival:
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"A total of 400 US military bases, packed with warships, nukes and bombers, have now been set up across the Pacific region, including in South Korea and Australia."

US readies for war with China with 400 bases of ships and nukes around superpower rival

Defending against Commies should be illegal, eh comrade?
 

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Under socialism, the state owns workers - they are resources to be commanded. Whether the state is controlled by "the workers", or not, is irrelevant. I think that's the main thing you don't get
Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer:

The Movement to End At-Will Employment Is Getting Serious

"In most of the rest of the world, workers are protected by the 'just cause' principle, which says they can only be terminated for legitimate, documented reasons connected to poor job performance.

"But in the United States, the at-will doctrine allows bosses to arbitrarily fire employees for any reason or no reason whatsoever, with the burden of proving it was an unlawful dismissal placed on the worker."

Worker-Self-Directed-Enterprises bring the concept of "just cause" to the American workplace in addition to economic democracy benefits of deciding what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus.

Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer:

They're also allowed to quit at anytime for any reason, or no reason.

There's too much freedom going on around here.
 

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It is more about equality and equal protection of the laws, and their uniform, general operation. We could have solved simple poverty, Yesterday, but for right wing obstruction due to their "hate on the Poor".
Conservatives have a knee-jerk support for the status quo. They killed and died to uphold the divine right of kings for centuries. Over that time the nation state and market economy became their guiding principles.
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The Great Transformation (book) - Wikipedia

"The great transformation was begun by the powerful modern state, which was needed to push changes in social structure, and in what aspects of human nature were amplified and encouraged, which allowed for a competitive capitalist economy to emerge.

"For Polanyi, these changes implied the destruction of the basic social order that had reigned throughout pre-modern history.

"Central to the change was that factors of production, such as land and labor, would now be sold on the market at market-determined prices instead of allocated according to tradition, redistribution, or reciprocity.[9]

"He emphasized the greatness of the transformation because it was both a change of human institutions and human nature."

Polanyi concluded a "market society is unsustainable because it is fatally destructive to human nature and the natural contexts it inhabits.":(
 

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Glad you are finally seeing that the Chinese Govt does in fact make lots of money off weapons
I see why China believes it requires weapons and weapon sales for its survival:
nintchdbpict0002869156331.jpg

"A total of 400 US military bases, packed with warships, nukes and bombers, have now been set up across the Pacific region, including in South Korea and Australia."

US readies for war with China with 400 bases of ships and nukes around superpower rival
your link is from 2016...6 years ago. I get that Obama was a warmonger...and thanks for proving that...but do you have anything up to date?
 

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Under socialism, the state owns workers - they are resources to be commanded. Whether the state is controlled by "the workers", or not, is irrelevant. I think that's the main thing you don't get
Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer
They can also quit whenever they want. They can find a different employer or work for themselves. And they won't be arrested.

You persistently, stubbornly and stupidly ignore the difference between the power that an employer has over you and the power of the government. Do you really not see the difference? Or do you just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your agenda?
 

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Under socialism, the state owns workers - they are resources to be commanded. Whether the state is controlled by "the workers", or not, is irrelevant. I think that's the main thing you don't get
Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer:

The Movement to End At-Will Employment Is Getting Serious

"In most of the rest of the world, workers are protected by the 'just cause' principle, which says they can only be terminated for legitimate, documented reasons connected to poor job performance.

"But in the United States, the at-will doctrine allows bosses to arbitrarily fire employees for any reason or no reason whatsoever, with the burden of proving it was an unlawful dismissal placed on the worker."

Worker-Self-Directed-Enterprises bring the concept of "just cause" to the American workplace in addition to economic democracy benefits of deciding what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus.

Under US capitalism workers are commodities subject to hiring and firing at the whim of their employer:

They're also allowed to quit at anytime for any reason, or no reason.

There's too much freedom going on around here.

You don't need freedom if you got democracy! Weeethepeople!
 

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Drastic change has drastic consequences.

That the corrupt Russian government didn't control the pace of change was the problem
Where did the money that corrupted the Russian government come from?
How The West Helped Invent Russia’s Election Fraud: OSCE Whistleblower Exposes 1996 Whitewash - By Alexander Zaitchik and Mark Ames - The eXiled

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"In 1994–96, under the infamous 'loans-for-shares' program, Russia privatized 150 state-owned companies for just $12 billion, most of which was loaned to a handful of well-connected buyers by the state—and indirectly by the World Bank and the IMF.

"The principal beneficiaries of this 'privatization'—actually, cartelization—were initially just 25 or so budding oligarchs with the insider connections to buy these properties and the muscle to hold them.2"

The Curious World of Donald Trump’s Private Russian Connections - The American Interest
 

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Meaningless.

Instead of whining that you don't earn enough get off your ass and improve your own economic position
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If you can't see the difficulties young people face today when trying to improve their economic circumstances compared to forty years ago, you're blind.

Capitalism Versus Economic Democracy, Minimum Wage Edition - CounterPunch.org

"The labor market that emerged after NAFTA was passed had an embedded bias toward the interests of capital and away from the interests of labor.

"In market terms, it was a rigged market.

"Secondly, as economist Dean Baker has detailed, some jobs, professions and industries remain protected while workers in others were left to ‘compete’ with low-wage labor internationally. This impacted both the level of wages and the employment mix.

"Workers in protected industries benefited relative to those cast aside.

"The premise that markets determine wages begs the question of what determines markets?"
 

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