We Suffered for 8 Years, Say the Haters.

[RealDave]

The economy finally turned around in October 2009 thanks to the stimulus.

AHAHAHA you have grown delusional. Obama fans continue to give the idiot credit for things he had no part in fixing.

Sorry assfuck but the stimulus did what it was intended to do.

By intended you must mean that half the money was diverted into Dem coffers to make payroll for Obama's state public employee union pals not for "shovel ready jobs". Its like the left want to be mocked and bitch slapped with facts.

This is another example of how fucking stupid you are.

Part of the stimulus was to sent money to the States to help them avoid cuts to education & law enforcement.

TO you fucking assholes, teaching ids & keeping us safe from crime is nothing but helping unions.

WE can't fix our infrastructure because you call it funding unions.

 

[RealDave]

"The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $80 billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.

Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.

He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.

He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.

Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.

He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.

His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.

He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.

For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.

All this, even as Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.

While Obama failed on his campaign pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, that prison’s population decreased from 242 to around 50.

He expanded funding for embryonic stem cell research, supporting groundbreaking advancement in areas like spinal injury treatment and cancer.

Credit card companies can no longer charge hidden fees or raise interest rates without advance notice.

Most years, Obama threw a 4th of July party for military families. He held babies, played games with children, served barbecue, and led the singing of “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who was born on July 4.

Welfare spending is down: for every 100 poor families, just 24 receive cash assistance, compared with 64 in 1996.

Obama comforted families and communities following more than a dozen mass shootings. After Sandy Hook, he said, “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.”

Yet, he never took away anyone’s guns.

He sang Amazing Grace, spontaneously, at the altar.

He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal.

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

President Obama was not perfect, as no man and no president is, and you can certainly disagree with his political ideologies. But to say we suffered? If that’s the argument, if this is how we suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama, I have one wish: may we be so fortunate as to suffer 8 more."

It's the special time of year we all take note of. No, silly, not Christmas. (drum roll please) THE annual deadline for signing up for the AHP, brought to you by Obama and Co. I feel like a big hug is in order, so they can stealthily pick your pock and make it look like they personally care for your well-being. Oh well, happy festivus, creeps, er, peeps!

If the policies offered on the exchanges were so horrible, why do people buy them?

If you buy insurance as an individual or small group, the exchanges will save you money.

 

[RealDave]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Well there is alway one that thinks Socialism was the cause of the 2007 Banking Crisis... It was Right wing deregulation policies which caused it but you go live in fantasy land...

Wrong Dem's spent 2 years trying to tank the economy to improve their chances in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, Dem's ARE assholes.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

 

[RealDave]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

So now you blame Democrats for the Bush recession.

Only since Jan 2007 HELLO.

The recession started 4th quarter of 2007.

 

[MaryL]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

HAHAHA!

Yes. Why deny it?
Class.
Something trump can't undo and something trump desperately wants but will NEVER even get a sniff.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

Obama and the Dem's drove the Dow down to 7,949 in the first place. You forgot that part so I corrected it for you.

Well if it isn't the idiot, Bush and his boys did that and still recovering from 9/11. Went up after Obama took office.

Went up after Obama took office.

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Same day? Or did it take a while?

The economy finally turned around in October 2009 thanks to the stimulus. Sorry you people Miss reality listening to your crap propaganda...

The economy finally turned around in October 2009 thanks to the stimulus.

How much was spent by October 2009?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have made numerous claims. Tod has only asked you questions about your claims.

"Why do you hate American Workers" is the BEST response you have given yet to his questions.... because you haven't have given any response to his questions.

If you can't back your claims... maybe you should find something else to do with your time, because conversations this pathetic on your part, are not convincing anyone.

OnePercentFailure "Trump sucks, and we have trade war debt!"

Todd: "How has Trump caused debt?"

OnePercentFailure: "Trump sucks and you hate workers!"


That is what I've seen in the past two dozen posts. You screaming accusations, Todd asking you to about those accusations, and you just responding that Todd much suck too.

That makes you a moron.

We do have a trade war debt, and I posted a link detailing that.

None of your links backed your claim that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%.
Or that tariffs cause the trucking company bankruptcy.

I never wrote that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%. I wrote that consumer debt is increasing 25% on foreign products due to tariffs, and I posted a link.

Tariffs are the number one reason trucking is doing poorly. Trucks bring you and I all of our shit, less shit, less truckloads of shit.

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Did you ever prove that it is owned by the Walton family, not by WalMart?

Or did you finally admit you lied?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

Obama and the Dem's drove the Dow down to 7,949 in the first place. You forgot that part so I corrected it for you.

Well if it isn't the idiot, Bush and his boys did that and still recovering from 9/11. Went up after Obama took office.

Went up after Obama took office.

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Same day? Or did it take a while?

Normally don't count a President on economy until his economic policies kick in... That is wht Trump has been living initially on the Obama wave and then he just borrowed...

Normally don't count a President on economy until his economic policies kick in.

DD was talking about the Dow.

 

[francoHFW]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Obama tanked the economy before he got elected. Magic negro indeed LOL

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Obama Tanked the economy before he was elected. Absolute idiocy. Actually the Republicans corruption and deregulation wreck the world economy every time they get eight years to do it. Thank God the Democrats got in fast this time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Well there is alway one that thinks Socialism was the cause of the 2007 Banking Crisis... It was Right wing deregulation policies which caused it but you go live in fantasy land...

Wrong Dem's spent 2 years trying to tank the economy to improve their chances in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, Dem's ARE assholes.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

Or what Obama passed that ended the recession by June 2009.

 

[BluesLegend]

The economy finally turned around in October 2009 thanks to the stimulus.

AHAHAHA you have grown delusional. Obama fans continue to give the idiot credit for things he had no part in fixing.

Sorry assfuck but the stimulus did what it was intended to do.

By intended you must mean that half the money was diverted into Dem coffers to make payroll for Obama's state public employee union pals not for "shovel ready jobs". Its like the left want to be mocked and bitch slapped with facts.

This is another example of how fucking stupid you are.

Part of the stimulus was to sent money to the States to help them avoid cuts to education & law enforcement.

TO you fucking assholes, teaching ids & keeping us safe from crime is nothing but helping unions.

WE can't fix our infrastructure because you call it funding unions.

^^^ brain dead liberal alert. That was NOT the intention of the stimulus moron. That's how they ended up blowing the money. That's how they kept public employee unemployment near 3.8%. I'm sorry who was losing their jobs the poor and middle class private sector workers or these government employee moochers?

 

[BluesLegend]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Well there is alway one that thinks Socialism was the cause of the 2007 Banking Crisis... It was Right wing deregulation policies which caused it but you go live in fantasy land...

Wrong Dem's spent 2 years trying to tank the economy to improve their chances in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, Dem's ARE assholes.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

The Democrat recession started 4th quarter 2007, engineer and cheered by the Democrats.

 

[BluesLegend]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Obama tanked the economy before he got elected. Magic negro indeed LOL

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Obama Tanked the economy before he was elected. Absolute idiocy. Actually the Republicans corruption and deregulation wreck the world economy every time they get eight years to do it. Thank God the Democrats got in fast this time.

The truth triggers you people on the left.

 

[BluesLegend]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Well there is alway one that thinks Socialism was the cause of the 2007 Banking Crisis... It was Right wing deregulation policies which caused it but you go live in fantasy land...

Wrong Dem's spent 2 years trying to tank the economy to improve their chances in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, Dem's ARE assholes.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

Or what Obama passed that ended the recession by June 2009.

We have set the record straight for these stupid shit liberals how many times? Still they continue to lie and spin.

 

[francoHFW]

The economy finally turned around in October 2009 thanks to the stimulus.

AHAHAHA you have grown delusional. Obama fans continue to give the idiot credit for things he had no part in fixing.

Sorry assfuck but the stimulus did what it was intended to do.

By intended you must mean that half the money was diverted into Dem coffers to make payroll for Obama's state public employee union pals not for "shovel ready jobs". Its like the left want to be mocked and bitch slapped with facts.

This is another example of how fucking stupid you are.

Part of the stimulus was to sent money to the States to help them avoid cuts to education & law enforcement.

TO you fucking assholes, teaching ids & keeping us safe from crime is nothing but helping unions.

WE can't fix our infrastructure because you call it funding unions.

^^^ brain dead liberal alert. That was NOT the intention of the stimulus moron. That's how they ended up blowing the money. That's how they kept public employee unemployment near 3.8%. I'm sorry who was losing their jobs the poor and middle class private sector workers or these government employee moochers?

Teachers fireman and policeman real Moochers. Whatever the stimulus worked. Keep voting for The GOP corruption and deregulation that screws the country every time they get eight years, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[MaryL]

I liked Obama. I still do. Trump not so much. Its not personal. I didn't vote FOR Trump so much as AGAINST the Democrats. Because they have become the epitome of corruption, fraud and manipulation.I am a democrat , or at least I used to be. Its time for a re evaluation of our politicians, all of them.

 

[francoHFW]

AHAHAHA you have grown delusional. Obama fans continue to give the idiot credit for things he had no part in fixing.

Sorry assfuck but the stimulus did what it was intended to do.

By intended you must mean that half the money was diverted into Dem coffers to make payroll for Obama's state public employee union pals not for "shovel ready jobs". Its like the left want to be mocked and bitch slapped with facts.

This is another example of how fucking stupid you are.

Part of the stimulus was to sent money to the States to help them avoid cuts to education & law enforcement.

TO you fucking assholes, teaching ids & keeping us safe from crime is nothing but helping unions.

WE can't fix our infrastructure because you call it funding unions.

^^^ brain dead liberal alert. That was NOT the intention of the stimulus moron. That's how they ended up blowing the money. That's how they kept public employee unemployment near 3.8%. I'm sorry who was losing their jobs the poor and middle class private sector workers or these government employee moochers?

Teachers fireman and policeman real Moochers. Whatever the stimulus worked. Keep voting for The GOP corruption and deregulation that screws the country every time they get eight years, brainwashed functional moron.

You have absolutely no evidence that Obama or the Democrats did anything to cause the 2008 GOP World depression. Cost the country 10 trillion dollars to avert a full-blown 1929 operation. You're totally misinformed and live on an imaginary Planet super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

Then seven and a half years straight of growth indistinguishable from that under Trump, except for the two trillion dollars in debt for the tax cut for the rich of course

Trump didn't TANK the economy to get elected. Growth is much easier when you first collapse the economy into a smoldering pile of rubble. Funny how you people always forget that part when kissing Obama's ass.

Well there is alway one that thinks Socialism was the cause of the 2007 Banking Crisis... It was Right wing deregulation policies which caused it but you go live in fantasy land...

Wrong Dem's spent 2 years trying to tank the economy to improve their chances in the 2008 presidential election. Yes, Dem's ARE assholes.

The Bush recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Show me what the Democrats passed that created the recession in 6 months.

The Democrat recession started 4th quarter 2007, engineer and cheered by the Democrats.

Makes no sense at all in the real world super duper and you have no evidence of any such thing. If you are going to go off on Republican Whipping Boy Fannie and Freddie, they lost market share from 75% to 25% in 2003 and private crony GOP lenders like Countrywide took over and screwed the hell out of everyone with GOP non oversight. You have absolutely no clue. Poor America. And that's right every respected journalist in the entire world knows it.

 

[francoHFW]

I liked Obama. I still do. Trump not so much. Its not personal. I didn't vote FOR Trump so much as AGAINST the Democrats. Because they have become the epitome of corruption, fraud and manipulation.I am a democrat , or at least I used to be. Its time for a re evaluation of our politicians, all of them.

Then you became brainwashed by hundreds of phony scandals against the Democrats, none of which have ever been proven to be anything but garbage propaganda repeated endlessly. Go back. Please lol

 

[OnePercenter]

We do have a trade war debt, and I posted a link detailing that.

None of your links backed your claim that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%.
Or that tariffs cause the trucking company bankruptcy.

I never wrote that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%. I wrote that consumer debt is increasing 25% on foreign products due to tariffs, and I posted a link.

Tariffs are the number one reason trucking is doing poorly. Trucks bring you and I all of our shit, less shit, less truckloads of shit.

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Did you ever prove that it is owned by the Walton family, not by WalMart?

Or did you finally admit you lied?

Trolling Again?