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[Taz]

abu afak last post

MOST American Whites - and ASIANS - didn't come here on the "Mayflower" either. Irish, Italians, Jews, Russians, etc, came here Broke-ass and Discriminated against.
Many signs up into the 60's said "No Blacks OR Jews".

Many Asians in fact, came here as indentured Railway labor just as blacks were being freed from slavery.

Then we Interned the Japanese as late WWII, and they lost everything. We Nuked their resourceLess Seismic Rock, and killed a good portion of their male population.
YET NE Asians HERE surpass us in Average IQ and Income, and Japan was the #2 economy within "50 years" of losing WWII.
Domestically, Jews yet a bit higher.
Discrimination does NOT explain this.

It's IQ.
It's Genetic.
Reality Check:
That's the reason the country And World looks the way it does.
It's that simple.

Before Colonialization Marco Polo found, Silk, Porcelain, Gunpowder, a Civil Service system, and Astronomical records in China/Japan.
In sub-Saharan Africa, just the same hunter-gatherer man had been 100,000 years ago before migrants who left had Evolved above their ancestral populations. No written language, no wheel.

Were it not for 'Whites', in fact, sub-Saharan Africa would be the same as it was those milennia ago... even today. Half the continent Wiped out by AIDS or Ebola without White medicine, and many still live in huts. Sub-Sahara still an un-self-governable rabble.

It's that simple/predictable.
The world only makes sense knowing/acknowledging this fact, rather than 10,000 rationalizations/excuses.
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End abu afak last post

What a DISHONEST TOTAL COP OUT.
NO Answer.
Just want everyone to see your Non-responsive WHIFF again.
The World looks the way it does because of...
IQ.

NE Asians - 106
White/Euro - 100
USA 'Black' - 85 (avg 25% white, 75% sub-Saharan)
sub-Saharan - 70.

That's all you gotta know.
And that's the way the world looked BEFORE SLAVERY/colonialization and still does.
As I pointed out.
`

Nah that's not all I gotta know.

Japanese got reparations. $20,000 each during Reagan.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

From Wrong To Right: A U.S. Apology For Japanese Internment

Japan got US AID after the war to rebuild.

In September, 1945, General Douglas MacArthur took charge of the Supreme Command of Allied Powers (SCAP) and began the work of rebuilding Japan. Although Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China had an advisory role as part of an “Allied Council,” MacArthur had the final authority to make all decisions. The occupation of Japan can be divided into three phases: the initial effort to punish and reform Japan, the work to revive the Japanese economy, and the conclusion of a formal peace treaty and alliance.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

During the Cold War, strategic interests led the U.S. to allow Japan to export to the US while protecting its domestic market, enabling the formation of cartels and non-market driven factors in Japanese economy, and the development of an asymmetrical trade relationship with the U.S. The export-driven economy that Japan consequently developed also benefited enormously from an international market of low tariffs (by joining the GATT, forerunner of WTO), low prices of oil and other raw materials needed for industrial development.

Because Article 9 of the Japanese constitution forbids Japan from rearmament, Japan has lived under the umbrella of U.S. military protection, spending only 1 per cent of their GNP on the military's defensive abilities (which is a huge sum of money as the Japanese economy grew to be the second largest in the world), which, percentage wise, helped save the Japanese much money if they were militarily on their own.

2. The welfare society in Japan

In Japan, a welfare society rather than welfare state exists, characterized by total employment, including cartels of small and medium sized companies to prevent them from bankruptcy in order to maintain total employment.
The welfare society and total employment enabled the Japanese state to devote much of the money it would have spent on welfare to industrial development, in the form of bank loans.

The birth of the welfare society:

During the American occupation:1946-49, Japanese economy was sustained by $500 million annually from the US. Despite this help, because of wartime devastation, Japanese economy was in shambles.

In reaction, the American occupational forces invited the Detroit banker Dodge to balance Japanese economy, who introduced the Dodge Plan (1949): balance budget, reduce inflation, repay Japanese government debts. Fix exchange rate ($1=360 yen). (compared with $1=110 yen today)

That this exchange rate made Japanese yen too expensive shows the high inflation going on in Japan before 1949.

Reaction to the Dodge Plan: massive laying off of workers and economic recession, because Japanese goods became less competitive in the international market (too expensive) (Dodge hoped that after the initial pain, Japanese economy would start steady development later on).

In reaction: state bank loans to private companies to prevent them from bankruptcy. In the 1950s, major concern of Japanese economy was capital accumulation and export promotion; also medium sized companies protested against tax increases. These concerns prevented the formation of a welfare state because that would require tax increases. Instead, the state promoted a welfare society through legislation. The welfare society, through maintaining near total employment via liberal government loans to private companies, dispensed with the need for unemployment benefits. Retirement pensions came largely from personal savings and company compensation, rather than benefits from the state.

The welfare society saved Japanese government much money, which was liberally loaned to companies and guaranteed a secure supply of funding to many companies, leading some to competition and technological innovation. (but it also prevented some companies from upgrading themselves because of guaranteed funding, so it was a two sided story).

Under the welfare society, limited unemployment benefits do exist, but they are provided by the private companies. The unemployment insurance premiums are borne by workers and employers on a fifty-fifty basis. The government pays only a partial sum of the management and operation costs--14 percent of the cost for unemployment insurance and the other services concerning unemployment is covered directly out of the national treasury account. The wage withholding is, in principle, set at 1.1 percent of the total annual salary. However, the actual rate of contribution to these schemes was lowered to 0.9 percent in fiscal 1992, and has been at 0.8 percent since fiscal 1993. Unemployment benefits were 60 percent to 80 percent of the wage before becoming unemployed for a period of 90 to 300 days, which was extended to 330 days after 2001. Conditions vary depending on age and length of time contributing to the system. The larger private companies were also responsible for subsidized housing, health benefits, retirement pension and other benefits for recreational activities in a package called lifetime employment, practiced after 1960. All these, naturally add to the cost of big corporations, which then pass the cost on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Japanese economic takeoff after 1945

So did Europe.

World War II devastated Western Europe, inflicting a staggering death toll on combatants and civilians, and destroying homes, buildings, factories and key

At the time, leaders in Washington understood that the United States had a powerful strategic interest in helping Western Europe to recover and stand on its own. As Secretary of State George C. Marshall said on June 5, 1947: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”

That’s why the United States worked to rebuild post-war Europe, investing $22 billion — or roughly $182 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in economic foreign assistance across 16 war-torn nations from 1946 to 1952. To be sure, America’s post-war commitment to Western Europe demonstrated our nation’s character. Yet it also advanced our economic interests. America’s $182 billion in economic foreign assistance to Europe amounts to far less than the more than $250 billion in goods that the United States now annually exports to those countries.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...06/the-lessons-from-us-aid-after-world-war-ii

Africa was still colonized and blacks still in apartheid here.

So yes, it was discrimination. IQ had nothing to do with it.

Learn the truth.

And that's what you gotta know.

People ALIVE got compensation, not their descendants 150 years later.

Cobell v Salazar dumb ass. Go look it up. Besides white liability for reparations did not end 150 years ago.

I have no problem for compensation for anyone still alive who was a slave. How's that?

Do you care that you are paying Native Americans today for things that happened 200 years ago? Because you are.

How's that?

Apples and oranges.

 

[abu afak]

Nah that's not all I gotta know.
Japanese got reparations. $20,000 each during Reagan.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

From Wrong To Right: A U.S. Apology For Japanese Internment

Japan got US AID after the war to rebuild.

In September, 1945, General Douglas MacArthur took charge of the Supreme Command of Allied Powers (SCAP) and began the work of rebuilding Japan. Although Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China had an advisory role as part of an “Allied Council,” MacArthur had the final authority to make all decisions. The occupation of Japan can be divided into three phases: the initial effort to punish and reform Japan, the work to revive the Japanese economy, and the conclusion of a formal peace treaty and alliance.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

During the Cold War, strategic interests led the U.S. to allow Japan to export to the US while protecting its domestic market, enabling the formation of cartels and non-market driven factors in Japanese economy, and the development of an asymmetrical trade relationship with the U.S. The export-driven economy that Japan consequently developed also benefited enormously from an international market of low tariffs (by joining the GATT, forerunner of WTO), low prices of oil and other raw materials needed for industrial development.

Because Article 9 of the Japanese constitution forbids Japan from rearmament, Japan has lived under the umbrella of U.S. military protection, spending only 1 per cent of their GNP on the military's defensive abilities (which is a huge sum of money as the Japanese economy grew to be the second largest in the world), which, percentage wise, helped save the Japanese much money if they were militarily on their own.

2. The welfare society in Japan

In Japan, a welfare society rather than welfare state exists, characterized by total employment, including cartels of small and medium sized companies to prevent them from bankruptcy in order to maintain total employment.
The welfare society and total employment enabled the Japanese state to devote much of the money it would have spent on welfare to industrial development, in the form of bank loans.

The birth of the welfare society:

During the American occupation:1946-49, Japanese economy was sustained by $500 million annually from the US. Despite this help, because of wartime devastation, Japanese economy was in shambles.

In reaction, the American occupational forces invited the Detroit banker Dodge to balance Japanese economy, who introduced the Dodge Plan (1949): balance budget, reduce inflation, repay Japanese government debts. Fix exchange rate ($1=360 yen). (compared with $1=110 yen today)

That this exchange rate made Japanese yen too expensive shows the high inflation going on in Japan before 1949.

Reaction to the Dodge Plan: massive laying off of workers and economic recession, because Japanese goods became less competitive in the international market (too expensive) (Dodge hoped that after the initial pain, Japanese economy would start steady development later on).

In reaction: state bank loans to private companies to prevent them from bankruptcy. In the 1950s, major concern of Japanese economy was capital accumulation and export promotion; also medium sized companies protested against tax increases. These concerns prevented the formation of a welfare state because that would require tax increases. Instead, the state promoted a welfare society through legislation. The welfare society, through maintaining near total employment via liberal government loans to private companies, dispensed with the need for unemployment benefits. Retirement pensions came largely from personal savings and company compensation, rather than benefits from the state.

The welfare society saved Japanese government much money, which was liberally loaned to companies and guaranteed a secure supply of funding to many companies, leading some to competition and technological innovation. (but it also prevented some companies from upgrading themselves because of guaranteed funding, so it was a two sided story).

Under the welfare society, limited unemployment benefits do exist, but they are provided by the private companies. The unemployment insurance premiums are borne by workers and employers on a fifty-fifty basis. The government pays only a partial sum of the management and operation costs--14 percent of the cost for unemployment insurance and the other services concerning unemployment is covered directly out of the national treasury account. The wage withholding is, in principle, set at 1.1 percent of the total annual salary. However, the actual rate of contribution to these schemes was lowered to 0.9 percent in fiscal 1992, and has been at 0.8 percent since fiscal 1993. Unemployment benefits were 60 percent to 80 percent of the wage before becoming unemployed for a period of 90 to 300 days, which was extended to 330 days after 2001. Conditions vary depending on age and length of time contributing to the system. The larger private companies were also responsible for subsidized housing, health benefits, retirement pension and other benefits for recreational activities in a package called lifetime employment, practiced after 1960. All these, naturally add to the cost of big corporations, which then pass the cost on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Japanese economic takeoff after 1945

So did Europe.

World War II devastated Western Europe, inflicting a staggering death toll on combatants and civilians, and destroying homes, buildings, factories and key

At the time, leaders in Washington understood that the United States had a powerful strategic interest in helping Western Europe to recover and stand on its own. As Secretary of State George C. Marshall said on June 5, 1947: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”

That’s why the United States worked to rebuild post-war Europe, investing $22 billion — or roughly $182 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in economic foreign assistance across 16 war-torn nations from 1946 to 1952. To be sure, America’s post-war commitment to Western Europe demonstrated our nation’s character. Yet it also advanced our economic interests. America’s $182 billion in economic foreign assistance to Europe amounts to far less than the more than $250 billion in goods that the United States now annually exports to those countries.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...06/the-lessons-from-us-aid-after-world-war-ii

Africa was still colonized and blacks still in apartheid here.

So yes, it was discrimination. IQ had nothing to do with it.

Learn the truth.

And that's what you gotta know.

Japanese IQ didn't change because of 20K for Some internment victims.
DOH!
It was the same before AND in Japan for Millennia.
AS I pointed out with Marco Polo, etc
And Japanese are only about 10% of "NE Asians", the highest IQ group, which includes Chinese and Koreans.

Your replies are So bad/illogical they UNwittingly Illustrate/prove the point being discussed.

And we have given Blacks far MORE than 20K in Welfare, Remedial edu, Affirmative Action, etc, for More than 50 years.
More like 10x that.
Nothing changes.

Again:
"MOST American Whites - and ASIANS - didn't come here on the "Mayflower" either. Irish, Italians, Jews, Russians, etc, came here Broke-ass and Discriminated against.
Many signs up into the 60's said "No Blacks OR Jews".

Many Asians in fact, came here as indentured Railway labor just as blacks were being freed from slavery.

Then we Interned the Japanese as late WWII, and they lost everything. We Nuked their resourceLess Seismic Rock, and killed a good portion of their male population.
YET NE Asians HERE surpass us in Average IQ and Income, and Japan was the #2 economy within "50 years" of losing WWII.
Domestically, Jews yet a bit higher.
Discrimination does NOT explain this.

It's IQ.
It's Genetic.
Reality Check:
That's the reason the country And World looks the way it does.
It's that simple.

Before Colonialization Marco Polo found, Silk, Porcelain, Gunpowder, a Civil Service system, and Astronomical records in China/Japan.
*In sub-Saharan Africa, just the same hunter-gatherer man had been 100,000 years ago before migrants who left had Evolved above their ancestral populations. No written language, no wheel.*

Were it not for 'Whites', in fact, sub-Saharan Africa would be the same as it was those milennia ago... even today. Half the continent Wiped out by AIDS or Ebola without White medicine, and many still live in huts. Sub-Sahara still an un-self-governable rabble.

It's that simple/predictable.
The world only makes sense knowing/acknowledging this fact, rather than 10,000 rationalizations/excuses."
.......
The World looks the way it does because of...
IQ.

NE Asians - 106
White/Euro - 100
USA 'Black' - 85 (avg 25% white, 75% sub-Saharan)
sub-Saharan - 70.

That's all you gotta know.
And that's the way the world looked BEFORE SLAVERY/colonialization and still does.
As I pointed out.
`

 

[Paul Essien]

Nah that's not all I gotta know.
Japanese got reparations. $20,000 each during Reagan.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

From Wrong To Right: A U.S. Apology For Japanese Internment

Japan got US AID after the war to rebuild.

In September, 1945, General Douglas MacArthur took charge of the Supreme Command of Allied Powers (SCAP) and began the work of rebuilding Japan. Although Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China had an advisory role as part of an “Allied Council,” MacArthur had the final authority to make all decisions. The occupation of Japan can be divided into three phases: the initial effort to punish and reform Japan, the work to revive the Japanese economy, and the conclusion of a formal peace treaty and alliance.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

During the Cold War, strategic interests led the U.S. to allow Japan to export to the US while protecting its domestic market, enabling the formation of cartels and non-market driven factors in Japanese economy, and the development of an asymmetrical trade relationship with the U.S. The export-driven economy that Japan consequently developed also benefited enormously from an international market of low tariffs (by joining the GATT, forerunner of WTO), low prices of oil and other raw materials needed for industrial development.

Because Article 9 of the Japanese constitution forbids Japan from rearmament, Japan has lived under the umbrella of U.S. military protection, spending only 1 per cent of their GNP on the military's defensive abilities (which is a huge sum of money as the Japanese economy grew to be the second largest in the world), which, percentage wise, helped save the Japanese much money if they were militarily on their own.

2. The welfare society in Japan

In Japan, a welfare society rather than welfare state exists, characterized by total employment, including cartels of small and medium sized companies to prevent them from bankruptcy in order to maintain total employment.
The welfare society and total employment enabled the Japanese state to devote much of the money it would have spent on welfare to industrial development, in the form of bank loans.

The birth of the welfare society:

During the American occupation:1946-49, Japanese economy was sustained by $500 million annually from the US. Despite this help, because of wartime devastation, Japanese economy was in shambles.

In reaction, the American occupational forces invited the Detroit banker Dodge to balance Japanese economy, who introduced the Dodge Plan (1949): balance budget, reduce inflation, repay Japanese government debts. Fix exchange rate ($1=360 yen). (compared with $1=110 yen today)

That this exchange rate made Japanese yen too expensive shows the high inflation going on in Japan before 1949.

Reaction to the Dodge Plan: massive laying off of workers and economic recession, because Japanese goods became less competitive in the international market (too expensive) (Dodge hoped that after the initial pain, Japanese economy would start steady development later on).

In reaction: state bank loans to private companies to prevent them from bankruptcy. In the 1950s, major concern of Japanese economy was capital accumulation and export promotion; also medium sized companies protested against tax increases. These concerns prevented the formation of a welfare state because that would require tax increases. Instead, the state promoted a welfare society through legislation. The welfare society, through maintaining near total employment via liberal government loans to private companies, dispensed with the need for unemployment benefits. Retirement pensions came largely from personal savings and company compensation, rather than benefits from the state.

The welfare society saved Japanese government much money, which was liberally loaned to companies and guaranteed a secure supply of funding to many companies, leading some to competition and technological innovation. (but it also prevented some companies from upgrading themselves because of guaranteed funding, so it was a two sided story).

Under the welfare society, limited unemployment benefits do exist, but they are provided by the private companies. The unemployment insurance premiums are borne by workers and employers on a fifty-fifty basis. The government pays only a partial sum of the management and operation costs--14 percent of the cost for unemployment insurance and the other services concerning unemployment is covered directly out of the national treasury account. The wage withholding is, in principle, set at 1.1 percent of the total annual salary. However, the actual rate of contribution to these schemes was lowered to 0.9 percent in fiscal 1992, and has been at 0.8 percent since fiscal 1993. Unemployment benefits were 60 percent to 80 percent of the wage before becoming unemployed for a period of 90 to 300 days, which was extended to 330 days after 2001. Conditions vary depending on age and length of time contributing to the system. The larger private companies were also responsible for subsidized housing, health benefits, retirement pension and other benefits for recreational activities in a package called lifetime employment, practiced after 1960. All these, naturally add to the cost of big corporations, which then pass the cost on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Japanese economic takeoff after 1945

So did Europe.

World War II devastated Western Europe, inflicting a staggering death toll on combatants and civilians, and destroying homes, buildings, factories and key

At the time, leaders in Washington understood that the United States had a powerful strategic interest in helping Western Europe to recover and stand on its own. As Secretary of State George C. Marshall said on June 5, 1947: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”

That’s why the United States worked to rebuild post-war Europe, investing $22 billion — or roughly $182 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in economic foreign assistance across 16 war-torn nations from 1946 to 1952. To be sure, America’s post-war commitment to Western Europe demonstrated our nation’s character. Yet it also advanced our economic interests. America’s $182 billion in economic foreign assistance to Europe amounts to far less than the more than $250 billion in goods that the United States now annually exports to those countries.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...06/the-lessons-from-us-aid-after-world-war-ii

Africa was still colonized and blacks still in apartheid here.

So yes, it was discrimination. IQ had nothing to do with it.

Learn the truth.

And that's what you gotta know.

Japanese IQ didn't change because of 20K for Some internment victims.
DOH!
It was the same before AND in Japan for Millennia.
AS I pointed out with Marco Polo, etc
And Japanese are only about 10% of "NE Asians", the highest IQ group, which includes Chinese and Koreans.

Your replies are So bad/illogical they UNwittingly Illustrate/prove the point being discussed.

And we have given Blacks far MORE than 20K in Welfare, Remedial edu, Affirmative Action, etc, for More than 50 years.
More like 10x that.
Nothing changes.

Again:
"MOST American Whites - and ASIANS - didn't come here on the "Mayflower" either. Irish, Italians, Jews, Russians, etc, came here Broke-ass and Discriminated against.
Many signs up into the 60's said "No Blacks OR Jews".

Many Asians in fact, came here as indentured Railway labor just as blacks were being freed from slavery.

Then we Interned the Japanese as late WWII, and they lost everything. We Nuked their resourceLess Seismic Rock, and killed a good portion of their male population.
YET NE Asians HERE surpass us in Average IQ and Income, and Japan was the #2 economy within "50 years" of losing WWII.
Domestically, Jews yet a bit higher.
Discrimination does NOT explain this.

It's IQ.
It's Genetic.
Reality Check:
That's the reason the country And World looks the way it does.
It's that simple.

Before Colonialization Marco Polo found, Silk, Porcelain, Gunpowder, a Civil Service system, and Astronomical records in China/Japan.
*In sub-Saharan Africa, just the same hunter-gatherer man had been 100,000 years ago before migrants who left had Evolved above their ancestral populations. No written language, no wheel.*

Were it not for 'Whites', in fact, sub-Saharan Africa would be the same as it was those milennia ago... even today. Half the continent Wiped out by AIDS or Ebola without White medicine, and many still live in huts. Sub-Sahara still an un-self-governable rabble.

It's that simple/predictable.
The world only makes sense knowing/acknowledging this fact, rather than 10,000 rationalizations/excuses."
.......
The World looks the way it does because of...
IQ.

NE Asians - 106
White/Euro - 100
USA 'Black' - 85 (avg 25% white, 75% sub-Saharan)
sub-Saharan - 70.

That's all you gotta know.
And that's the way the world looked BEFORE SLAVERY/colonialization and still does.
As I pointed out.
`

One thing I've always noticed about you guys who are always running around trying to prove how stupid black people are is this.

What is your solution ?

You're saying "Black people are less intelligent (On average)"

I'm saying "Yes. I am"

Now what ?

They keep on rolling this out just as long as they never get to the doing part.

 

[abu afak]

One thing I've always noticed about you guys who are always running around trying to prove how stupid black people are is this.
What is your solution ?
You're saying "Black people are less intelligent (On average)"
I'm saying "Yes. I am"
Now what ?
They keep on rolling this out just as long as they never get to the doing part.

We are debating what the Problem IS first.
Another poster disagrees.
Every problem doesn't necessarily have a solution. At least not one yet.

So it's either obtuse or dishonest to suggest I must have a Solution to a problem that we are identifying/debating.

The universe is expanding and will eventually fly apart, as will all the molecules in it.
Should we stop studying astronomy because there's no "solution.'?

In this case, lower Black IQ, is the best fitting and tested reason for why the world and it's people's look the way it does/they do.

A Solution would be interbreeding with higher intellect populations
(same as if you wanted to make whites or Asians better athletes, or previous, blacks better slaves by selecta-breeding)....
or within perhaps 20 or 30 years, or even sooner, genetic manipulation.
Otherwise it Is intractable, and has resisted all remediation.

ie allyand logic,
USA 'Black' IQ (85) is intermediate to the White/Euro 100, and sub-Sharan 70.
They are on average a 25% White/75% sub-Saharan population.

ie,
There has been a Nobel Prize winner Sperm Bank for a few decades now.

So despite your Fallacious challenge that I necessarily have to a solution for a problem in dispute here, I HAVE Now offered a few.

As always, the debate itself is an unwitting (on one side) demonstration of the problem.
`

 

[Paul Essien]

We are debating what the Problem IS first.

There is no problem. I am the problem. Black people are the problem in that we are natural less intelligent. Right ?

And it's either obtuse or dishonest to suggest I must have a Solution to a problem that we are identifying.

Maybe I over-estimated you but I thought you would not wimp out so easy when I asked you for solution, after all you are the superior having higher IQ person.


Right ?

The universe is expanding and will eventually fly apart, as will all the molecules in it. Should we stop studying astronomy because there's no "solution.'?

But that’s scientific fact

So is the scientific fact is that rain water freezes at 0°C at a pressure of 1 bar.

There’s no human choice involved. It’s observable and reproducible anywhere by anybody in the exact same way. Now a scientific fact, peer-reviewed, confirmed and approved, can have political consequences. Using the simple water example, it means that public administration, set into function by politics, orders winter road service to get ready once the temperatures fall below 0°C and the roads are wet.

But yet you throw around concepts that have no constant repeatability everywhere you try to reproduce the experiment or apply the theoretical claim.

In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.

The reality is that there is not only one but a multitude of deviations that those “scientists” choose to ignore.

In neurology no one takes IQ seriously. It is archaic and only really useful to social scientists. Neurologists who have a better understanding of how the brain works because they spend decades of their lives studying it have little to no use for it, but to the public at large it is so important.

In this case, lower Black IQ, is the best fitting and tested reason for why the world and it's people's look the way it does/they do.

So what do you with a race of people who by nature stupid ?

The Solution would be interbreeding with higher intellect populations (same as if you wanted to make whites or Asians better athletes, or previous, blacks better slaves)....

or within perhaps 20 or 30 years, or even sooner, genetic manipulation.

Now were getting some where !!

So your claim is that whites and Asians are not as good of athletes as black people ?

Well, the original story was that blacks were inferior by body AND brains. In the 1936 Olympics Hitler was confident that his Aryan athletes would dominate the Black American sprinters. Thanks to Jessie Owens that did not happen.

So white people pretended that they had never believed that white people were physically superior to black people and that their ideas had not been embarrassingly refuted. They just figured that brains were more important so if black people were to be sold to the world as inferior, it would have to be based on us being genetically stupid.

And if what you say is true when why you do find African Americans in the NBA but you won’t find many West Africans, who are certainly “blacker” and according to your racist theorist, athleticism and blackness somehow run together then you would expect West Africans to dominate the NBA and African teams to dominate international basketball competitions, and they don’t because these things are not concordant on the basis of race.

When you start to make statements about certain scientific things, it would be good to know what ur talking about. Like the simple basics of the evolution theory.

Something as major as an additional pair of muscles would have required major evolutionary changes. Or a loss of a pair of muscles, since all humans evolved from a common ancestor.

In order for black people to have "an extra muscle" from other human beings there would have to be fixed genetic differences between races.

Meaning a clear break

Indeed this seems like a speciation level difference to be frank, such as "Blacks" having a gene for X and no one else. This is absolutely clearly not the case. Not a shadow of a doubt.

I'm sure you'll say that black people are physically more capable of playing basketball. If that's true, why don't blacks dominate volleyball the same way ?

You have to be tall and have great jumping ability in volleyball Or why aren't all championship high jumpers black ?

• Every player who has ever won an NHL scoring title is white.
• Every Olympic weightlifting record is held by a caucasian.
• All championship speed skaters are white.
• Every major league pitcher who has ever won 300 games is white.
• Almost all Olympic champions rowers and kayakers are white,

I don't believe for one instant the whites are physically advantaged in shooting, hockey pucks, lifting barbells, skating, or rowing, do you ?

There are actually very good reasons why track and field and boxing events are dominated the way they are; because that's who trains and competes in them. Boxing is generally for people who have limited opportunities. Racism limits your opportunities.

And yes Africans have been ahead of the rest of the world in long distance training methods for thirty years; it's no surprise they dominate the competitions.

If people from a geographic region of Africa are the world's champion sprinters and a different group of people from a geographic region of Africa are the world's champion marathon runners and both are alleged to be part of some specific "race" you have just argued against sprinting or distance running as being a "racial" characteristic. Since the 2 groups you tried to put into one "race" have contradictory abilities.

And it's possible for white people and black people to interbreed - Right ? So if a mixed-race individual would have this extra muscle. Then how much "black blood" is necessary for a person to have this fast twitch muscle ?

Your talking points probably sound good on stormfront. They sound really good when no-one is there to check them because it's clear that, as usual, you've not really thought this through......have you ?

 

[abu afak]

There is no problem. I am the problem. Black people are the problem in that we are natural less intelligent. Right ?

Black people's lower on Average IQ is indeed a problem for society and is a drag on the economy and crime stats

Maybe I over-estimated you but I thought you would not wimp out so easy when I asked you for solution, after all you are the superior having higher IQ person.
Right ?

Huh?

But that’s scientific fact
So is the scientific fact is that rain water freezes at 0°C at a pressure of 1 bar.
There’s no human choice involved. It’s observable and reproducible anywhere by anybody in the exact same way. Now a scientific fact, peer-reviewed, confirmed and approved, can have political consequences. Using the simple water example, it means that public administration, set into function by politics, orders winter road service to get ready once the temperatures fall below 0°C and the roads are wet.
But yet you throw around concepts that have no constant repeatability everywhere you try to reproduce the experiment or apply the theoretical claim.
In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.
The reality is that there is not only one but a multitude of deviations that those “scientists” choose to ignore.

LOL Mr Obtuse or Disingenuous.
It's a FACT that Los Angeles is sunnier/warmer than Seattle.
It doesn't mean EVERY Day is.
Doh!
Really Lame try. Pathetic 'logic'.

TAKE YOUR PICK
race iq - Google Search

Again one side of the discussion poignantly proven by lame logic of the other.

In neurology no one takes IQ seriously. It is archaic and only really useful to social scientists. ..

Actually, it's Psychology, not neurology, and almost Everyone knows it's true.
The APA has issued statements on the differential.

So what do you with a race of people who by nature stupid ?

Ahh, the inevitable Bogie Man/GENOCIDE card that no one is suggesting.

Now were getting some where !!
So your claim is that whites and Asians are not as good of athletes as black people ?Well, the original story was that blacks were inferior by body AND brains. In the 1936 Olympics Hitler was confident that his Aryan athletes would dominate the Black American sprinters. Thanks to Jessie Owens that did not happen...

No you're confusing/conflating "Hitler" with the actual scientifiic truthes.
Hitler also had to ban IQ tests because the Jews outperformed other Germans.
That IQ differential is STILL True, and part of MY claim, not yours.

ALL IQ tests for 50++ Years on ALL Continents/ALL Socioeconomic levels show the same results. Asians>White>Black.

IQ is the single best indicator of Life Outcome, and so it is. The Planet only makes sense accepting this FACT.

And if what you say is true when why you do find African Americans in the NBA but you won’t find many West Africans, who are certainly “blacker” and according to your racist theorist, ..

Virtually ALL elite sprinters are of West Afrian descent. Not another remotely close.
East Africans the same in Distance running.
The fact they don't have access to hoops is academic

When you start to make statements about certain scientific things, it would be good to know what ur talking about. Like the simple basics of the evolution theory.
Something as major as an additional pair of muscles would have required major evolutionary changes. Or a loss of a pair of muscles, since all humans evolved from a common ancestor.
In order for black people to have "an extra muscle" from other human beings there would have to be fixed genetic differences between races.

Blacks do have higher proportion of Fast Twitch muscle, and higher Testosterone and Androgen receptors.

You're out of your league Junior.

I'm sure you'll say that black people are physically more capable of playing basketball. If that's true, why don't blacks dominate volleyball the same way ?
You have to be tall and have great jumping ability in volleyball Or why aren't all championship high jumpers black ?Every player who has ever won an NHL scoring title is white.
And yes Africans have been ahead of the rest of the world in long

Given access, number, and interest, blacks would indeed probably dominate all sports. Even in Elite sports like Golf and Tennis we've seen them excel despite under-representation/participation/access.

NOT so in Cognitive pursuits.

And it's possible for white people and black people to interbreed - Right ? So if a mixed-race individual would have this extra muscle. Then how much "black blood" is necessary for a person to have this fast twitch muscle ?

Silly "demand detail" fallacy.

Your talking points probably sound good on stormfront. They sound really good when no-one is there to check them because it's clear that, as usual, you've not really thought this through......have you ?

I don't think the boys at Stormfront would like the fact Jews and Asians are Smarter than they are.

Another vacuous smear attempt.
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[emilynghiem]

For too many times here I have argued with mods about the content here in this section. Far too many times I get responses back with false equivalences of equal racism between blacks and whites. I think we need to understand that there is a difference here and an important distinction needs to be made relative to this matter.

What we call racism by standard has been a general belief by whites not based on anything but a shared ideal that certain people are inferior to whites, What is referred to as black racism is the angry response to people who tell us we are inferior.

There is a major difference and intelligent adults should be able to recognize that difference and try understanding how you would feel if you were the group told how you were all stupid, that your race has never done anything, and that if not for the white man you'd be nothing. I don't think you'd appreciate being called a racist for saying your race is superior after reading pages of how inferior you are to whites in every way. Only a human with no personal pride would accept this kind if constant denigration without fighting back. Yet here blacks doing this are called racists.

Blacks did not choose to come here on the Mayflower with a belief they were superior and more civilized than everyone else. We were bought here on ships like the Amistad then sold into lifetime bondage because of that belief. Then after slavery was made illegal whites created another system on inequality that continued to enforce that same belief for an additional 100 plus years. Only in the last 52 years have blacks been at least free from overt racist beliefs from whites. 52 YEARS! Therefore to try making our experiences here the same and our responses to race and racism the same as whites is erroneous and this error is what needs to stop .

Dear IM2
I am friends with a community leader in Freedmen's Town
who defines racism based on whites having all the power and greater privilege
so that all racism is spelled out from THAT perspective.

The majority of people I know understand racism
more generally to mean ANY prejudice that causes
people to project or discriminate "by association"
with either color, ethnicity, race, or culture that
has been "run together" so that even "discrimination
against Mexicans or Palestinians" is called RACIST.

You made it clear that PREJUDICE is not what you mean
when you are trying to address white racism against blacks
and other minorities as an extension of that.

IM2 these are NOT all the same.
And neither are the people.

You yourself keep trying to blame others "for all doing the same thing"
and trying to "tell others to think and do things THEIR way."

but you also come across the same way
trying to define and impose YOUR perspective on racism
which may not be the way other people approach it or see it.

"we are not all going to see things the same way"

The number one advice I can give you and support you on
is to differentiate your way from other people and not try to make
everyone see it your way either.

If you do that, make that distinction and accept those differences,
you will do MORE to encourage and influence OTHERS
to see your way is different from theirs, and accept that also!!!

Please do not fall further in the trap of mutual resentment
over all people pushing their way. Of course people are
going to defend their positions and perspective,
as you do as well. That's going to happen.

Please do not attack this, but work with it.

You will do more to overcome biases and prejudices
and FEAR of being overrun by other people's ways.

If you want people to differentiate,
keep doing the same. Don't run everyone else
together as the enemy either. We all have the
right to our own views and take responsibility for them.

I don't resent anyone. There are some facts that are central to this discussion. Blacks and whites have had different experiences in America. That is a fact and no matte how many people want to male things the same, they were and are not.

You cannot name one law or policy enacted by blacks that was done to purposefully deny whites of opportunities. I'm not trying to make anyone see anything. But just as you can say he sun rises in the daytime, and that is a fact, there have been laws and policies enacted by whites one on purpose to deny people of color of opportunity. This went on for at least 188 years by written law and for whites think that we all should just forget and ignore what happens or those who are angry about it are racists is just a willful refusal to accept responsibility for the damage created by the racism whites have caused.

I'm listening to what people say, but really there are no two sides to listen to. Whites in America have treated people of color wrongly. It is documented in our courthouses, state law books, museums and almost every other record keeping facility.

You see whites are always telling us how we should do things. How we shouldn't be resentful for what they have done to us. The thing is if anything happens to whites they do all the tings they tell us we should not do. Look at what you read in this forum. Yet we are to speak nicely and not to lump all whites into a group while they do it every day. We are not to show resentment, yet they have made up an untrue tale about how they are being discriminated against because they resent us getting equal opportunity.

Dear IM2
A. From what I understand, Affirmative Action quotas were finally struck down as unconstitutional. So this poor attempt (where AA started off as an initiative for urban development before it became corrupted as quotas that couldn't be enforced without causing worse complications) did end up backfiring. Although I would agree with you it DIDN'T COME FROM BLACKS but came from the same political elite that try to control everything and end up screwing things up worse.

Because the Black leadership and communities have to form their own representation, the solutions do not come out as legislation that is monopolized by the corporatized elite. So I would agree with you that Blacks have not had access or equal representation to put forth any corrective legislation, and certainly not any that causes harm.

The WORST example I would give is Obama pushing the ACA mandates that deprived all citizens of freedom to choose health care provisions but penalized people deprived of liberty without due process through taxation without representation. You could say that the Black interests got Obama elected and resulted in this legislation coming out in corrupted form that has never been checked or corrected; but I'd still blame that on CORPORATE interests that keep hijacking the process and preventing representation of the real people and communities still not being heard or their interests and beliefs protected.

So I would agree that given the MONOPOLIZED system that is still hijacked by corporate elite, NOBODY is getting represented now. Both the rich and the poor are complaining, because govt run amok is costing all of us our freedom and our budgets and economy, and our labor. Nobody is happy. This is costing everyone.

B. As for solutions that WOULD help the Black community and interests to overcome historic inequity and setbacks economically and politically,
I would like to propose to you and also Asclepias to back up Freedmen's Town historic descendant and business leader GLADYS HOUSE in leading a plan to restore this national Freed Slave settlement as a campus for teaching and training residents and leaders in (a) property and business ownership and management on a no risk basis where the school program owns the property under a trust that the interns are trained to manage through experienced mentors (before forming teams to create other sites for owning and managing property as a self-sustaining campus community)
(b) microlending, financial, credit and investment training and management
(c) media and communications outreach (d) spiritual counseling, health and healing of relations to prevent criminal abuse, addiction and crime that otherwise costs communities millions in incarceration that could be invested in localized health care, elderly facilities and daycare (e) legal and govt training and mentorship to become civic, business and govt leaders, with internships and on the job training at every level of govt from homeowner associations to city/county and state/federal.

Gladys has been funding and fighting this battle alone, because of perceptions of race and gender that have isolated her as a Black women Republican business and community leader.

I would like to ask the help of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, Mayor Turner, and Lt. Col. Allen West, to invite Colin Kaepernick to take on this Freedmen's Town project, and raise between $2-10 million of the multimillions owed to taxpayers in restitution for abuses of public funds and authority to destroy this nationally registered historic district of Freed Slave, Black church, and military history , which includes an additional nationally registered WWII military and Civil Rights landmark site within the district.

this historic public housing complex was the site of several legal battles over (1) eminent domain to deprive Black and Italian landowners of private property in order to build segregated public housing for whites only (2) civil rights and desegregation that after the Civil Rights Act was passed (3) the 1996 court battle over eviction that I argued violated the inalienable Constitutional rights of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the govt collectively as a community to redress grievances and to enforce the Campus Plans that residents had passed into federal laws under HOPE VI HUD reforms, as personally signed and endorsed by HUD secretary and Congresswoman Lee.

Please see www.campusplan.org for the original plans for sustainable community development as a campus managed by residents under a democratically elected resident council

Please see www.freedmenstown.com for Gladys House's plans to save the last block of 10 historic rowhouses for Veterans, to create construction and development jobs for local residents to become financially stabilized and self-supporting.

And the list I summarized of just 3 of the cases of fraud, corporate abuse or malfeasance at taxpayers' expense for which the community is owed millions in restitution that I have urged officials to invest in restoration to right these wrongs, as the worst case and ongoing pattern of political abuse and corruption targeting Black community interests and history, which amounts to genocide of this unique settlement with its own culture and economy destroyed by corporate abuse of political power and process.

Here is the link to the letter I wrote to Senator Cruz that listed 3 of the cases that are documented so that restitution can be assessed: Bull Ring - Anonymous1977: emilynghiem is Asian I support Freedmen's Town plan for Constitutional equality
I have proposed to allow interested citizens and community leaders to "buy shares" in these debts, so the property is held as collateral, and owned/managed by the people like Gladys House who have invested capital and labor in restoration plans.

If you want to see a documented case of abuses and solutions, so that this district can be used as a model for restitution or "reparations" for systemic oppression, abuses and deprivation of rights against the Black community,
and use the Federal Reserve facility on site as a banking system for monitoring debts, damages and credits to be invested in developing other districts also oppressed and deprived of equal protection of the laws,
then I ask you to please join this effort, and let's use Freedmen's Town as a national model to create a system for addressing and correcting these wrongs.

I would like help to form a team around Gladys House and other Republicans, and Congresswoman Lee and other Democrats, to stop the division over party politics, rich and poor, that is dividing and destroying our communities and our nation, including our ability to invest in restoration.

Thank you and I hope you are as serious about creating a model for corrections and restitution. Actions speak louder than words. We create a solution that works, and other communities and leaders will follow.
www.earnedamnesty.org


Yours truly,
Emily Nghiem

 

[Paul Essien]

I'll focus on the two statements where you said something

Black people's lower on Average IQ is indeed a problem for society and is a drag on the economy and crime stats

The racial designations that we currently use are principally based on three characteristics.

1) Facial structure
2) Skin color
3) Hair texture.

Those are things that are controlled by six genes out of thirty thousand genes in the human genome. And those genes have never been shown by any geneticist on the planet, any biologist on the planet, to be connected, or what geneticists call “concordant,” with any other trait known as intelligence or known as temperament or behavior or ethics or morality or any of those kinds of things.

Can you show different ?

If you are trying to say that IQ is a genetic product of race then then very first thing you need to do is define the races themselves.

But I always, sit back, invite them to give such a definition. Mainly because their fumbling attempts to define race point out just how subjective such definitions are. In close to a decade of debating race with racists.

I have yet to see any one of them, no matter what their scientific credentials, offer up an acceptably neutral definition of race.

Which are those “races” then, purely scientifically speaking and in clear text ?
What are the precise genetic criteria for making this classification ?

Those questions can obviously only be answered in arbitrary dimensions which are man-made constructs according to human perception alone.

However you twist it, you will run in circles and eventually spiral back into concepts based on human perception alone.

Everybody who has written a thesis or other academic papers knows that if you don’t deliver scientific definitions for your central subjects, you fail.

You don’t even have a leg to stand on as long as you don’t deliver a clear definition of what you actually write about.

LOL Mr Obtuse or Disingenuous.
It's a FACT that Los Angeles is sunnier/warmer than Seattle.
It doesn't mean EVERY Day is.
Doh!

I know that you'll ignore mainstream facts and pretend that marginalized trash are actually hidden gems of knowledge only you and a select few others can see.

And NO - Everyone is not the same.

It’s clear that different cultures around the world define and express themselves quite differently. These differences are not initiated on the genetic level, and neatly distributed along traditional “racial” categories.

You assume “race” in humans as a biological fact without delivering a precise, uncontested biological definition

The science doesn’t support it.

As for the differences between groups, yes we acknowledge that human beings adapt to their geography to some extent – but not enough to become different *kinds* of human beings.

Now, if you choose to call the differences in groups “races” it stretches the original meaning of the word. But let’s accept that for a moment. You want races so badly, then I shall give them to you.

But you’re going to need more races (based on genetic variance) than they culled off in the past centuries. And the races won’t be arbitrarily colour-coordinated. There will be several European races, many Asian races, and a large number of African races.

 

[Paul Essien]

For too many times here I have argued with mods about the content here in this section. Far too many times I get responses back with false equivalences of equal racism between blacks and whites. I think we need to understand that there is a difference here and an important distinction needs to be made relative to this matter.

What we call racism by standard has been a general belief by whites not based on anything but a shared ideal that certain people are inferior to whites, What is referred to as black racism is the angry response to people who tell us we are inferior.

There is a major difference and intelligent adults should be able to recognize that difference and try understanding how you would feel if you were the group told how you were all stupid, that your race has never done anything, and that if not for the white man you'd be nothing. I don't think you'd appreciate being called a racist for saying your race is superior after reading pages of how inferior you are to whites in every way. Only a human with no personal pride would accept this kind if constant denigration without fighting back. Yet here blacks doing this are called racists.

Blacks did not choose to come here on the Mayflower with a belief they were superior and more civilized than everyone else. We were bought here on ships like the Amistad then sold into lifetime bondage because of that belief. Then after slavery was made illegal whites created another system on inequality that continued to enforce that same belief for an additional 100 plus years. Only in the last 52 years have blacks been at least free from overt racist beliefs from whites. 52 YEARS! Therefore to try making our experiences here the same and our responses to race and racism the same as whites is erroneous and this error is what needs to stop .

Dear IM2
I am friends with a community leader in Freedmen's Town
who defines racism based on whites having all the power and greater privilege
so that all racism is spelled out from THAT perspective.

The majority of people I know understand racism
more generally to mean ANY prejudice that causes
people to project or discriminate "by association"
with either color, ethnicity, race, or culture that
has been "run together" so that even "discrimination
against Mexicans or Palestinians" is called RACIST.

You made it clear that PREJUDICE is not what you mean
when you are trying to address white racism against blacks
and other minorities as an extension of that.

IM2 these are NOT all the same.
And neither are the people.

You yourself keep trying to blame others "for all doing the same thing"
and trying to "tell others to think and do things THEIR way."

but you also come across the same way
trying to define and impose YOUR perspective on racism
which may not be the way other people approach it or see it.

"we are not all going to see things the same way"

The number one advice I can give you and support you on
is to differentiate your way from other people and not try to make
everyone see it your way either.

If you do that, make that distinction and accept those differences,
you will do MORE to encourage and influence OTHERS
to see your way is different from theirs, and accept that also!!!

Please do not fall further in the trap of mutual resentment
over all people pushing their way. Of course people are
going to defend their positions and perspective,
as you do as well. That's going to happen.

Please do not attack this, but work with it.

You will do more to overcome biases and prejudices
and FEAR of being overrun by other people's ways.

If you want people to differentiate,
keep doing the same. Don't run everyone else
together as the enemy either. We all have the
right to our own views and take responsibility for them.

I don't resent anyone. There are some facts that are central to this discussion. Blacks and whites have had different experiences in America. That is a fact and no matte how many people want to male things the same, they were and are not.

You cannot name one law or policy enacted by blacks that was done to purposefully deny whites of opportunities. I'm not trying to make anyone see anything. But just as you can say he sun rises in the daytime, and that is a fact, there have been laws and policies enacted by whites one on purpose to deny people of color of opportunity. This went on for at least 188 years by written law and for whites think that we all should just forget and ignore what happens or those who are angry about it are racists is just a willful refusal to accept responsibility for the damage created by the racism whites have caused.

I'm listening to what people say, but really there are no two sides to listen to. Whites in America have treated people of color wrongly. It is documented in our courthouses, state law books, museums and almost every other record keeping facility.

You see whites are always telling us how we should do things. How we shouldn't be resentful for what they have done to us. The thing is if anything happens to whites they do all the tings they tell us we should not do. Look at what you read in this forum. Yet we are to speak nicely and not to lump all whites into a group while they do it every day. We are not to show resentment, yet they have made up an untrue tale about how they are being discriminated against because they resent us getting equal opportunity.

Dear IM2
A. From what I understand, Affirmative Action quotas were finally struck down as unconstitutional. So this poor attempt (where AA started off as an initiative for urban development before it became corrupted as quotas that couldn't be enforced without causing worse complications) did end up backfiring. Although I would agree with you it DIDN'T COME FROM BLACKS but came from the same political elite that try to control everything and end up screwing things up worse.

Because the Black leadership and communities have to form their own representation, the solutions do not come out as legislation that is monopolized by the corporatized elite. So I would agree with you that Blacks have not had access or equal representation to put forth any corrective legislation, and certainly not any that causes harm.

The WORST example I would give is Obama pushing the ACA mandates that deprived all citizens of freedom to choose health care provisions but penalized people deprived of liberty without due process through taxation without representation. You could say that the Black interests got Obama elected and resulted in this legislation coming out in corrupted form that has never been checked or corrected; but I'd still blame that on CORPORATE interests that keep hijacking the process and preventing representation of the real people and communities still not being heard or their interests and beliefs protected.

So I would agree that given the MONOPOLIZED system that is still hijacked by corporate elite, NOBODY is getting represented now. Both the rich and the poor are complaining, because govt run amok is costing all of us our freedom and our budgets and economy, and our labor. Nobody is happy. This is costing everyone.

B. As for solutions that WOULD help the Black community and interests to overcome historic inequity and setbacks economically and politically,
I would like to propose to you and also Asclepias to back up Freedmen's Town historic descendant and business leader GLADYS HOUSE in leading a plan to restore this national Freed Slave settlement as a campus for teaching and training residents and leaders in (a) property and business ownership and management on a no risk basis where the school program owns the property under a trust that the interns are trained to manage through experienced mentors (before forming teams to create other sites for owning and managing property as a self-sustaining campus community)
(b) microlending, financial, credit and investment training and management
(c) media and communications outreach (d) spiritual counseling, health and healing of relations to prevent criminal abuse, addiction and crime that otherwise costs communities millions in incarceration that could be invested in localized health care, elderly facilities and daycare (e) legal and govt training and mentorship to become civic, business and govt leaders, with internships and on the job training at every level of govt from homeowner associations to city/county and state/federal.

Gladys has been funding and fighting this battle alone, because of perceptions of race and gender that have isolated her as a Black women Republican business and community leader.

I would like to ask the help of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, Mayor Turner, and Lt. Col. Allen West, to invite Colin Kaepernick to take on this Freedmen's Town project, and raise between $2-10 million of the multimillions owed to taxpayers in restitution for abuses of public funds and authority to destroy this nationally registered historic district of Freed Slave, Black church, and military history , which includes an additional nationally registered WWII military and Civil Rights landmark site within the district.

this historic public housing complex was the site of several legal battles over (1) eminent domain to deprive Black and Italian landowners of private property in order to build segregated public housing for whites only (2) civil rights and desegregation that after the Civil Rights Act was passed (3) the 1996 court battle over eviction that I argued violated the inalienable Constitutional rights of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the govt collectively as a community to redress grievances and to enforce the Campus Plans that residents had passed into federal laws under HOPE VI HUD reforms, as personally signed and endorsed by HUD secretary and Congresswoman Lee.

Please see www.campusplan.org for the original plans for sustainable community development as a campus managed by residents under a democratically elected resident council

Please see www.freedmenstown.com for Gladys House's plans to save the last block of 10 historic rowhouses for Veterans, to create construction and development jobs for local residents to become financially stabilized and self-supporting.

And the list I summarized of just 3 of the cases of fraud, corporate abuse or malfeasance at taxpayers' expense for which the community is owed millions in restitution that I have urged officials to invest in restoration to right these wrongs, as the worst case and ongoing pattern of political abuse and corruption targeting Black community interests and history, which amounts to genocide of this unique settlement with its own culture and economy destroyed by corporate abuse of political power and process.

Here is the link to the letter I wrote to Senator Cruz that listed 3 of the cases that are documented so that restitution can be assessed: Bull Ring - Anonymous1977: emilynghiem is Asian I support Freedmen's Town plan for Constitutional equality
I have proposed to allow interested citizens and community leaders to "buy shares" in these debts, so the property is held as collateral, and owned/managed by the people like Gladys House who have invested capital and labor in restoration plans.

If you want to see a documented case of abuses and solutions, so that this district can be used as a model for restitution or "reparations" for systemic oppression, abuses and deprivation of rights against the Black community,
and use the Federal Reserve facility on site as a banking system for monitoring debts, damages and credits to be invested in developing other districts also oppressed and deprived of equal protection of the laws,
then I ask you to please join this effort, and let's use Freedmen's Town as a national model to create a system for addressing and correcting these wrongs.

I would like help to form a team around Gladys House and other Republicans, and Congresswoman Lee and other Democrats, to stop the division over party politics, rich and poor, that is dividing and destroying our communities and our nation, including our ability to invest in restoration.

Thank you and I hope you are as serious about creating a model for corrections and restitution. Actions speak louder than words. We create a solution that works, and other communities and leaders will follow.
www.earnedamnesty.org


Yours truly,
Emily Nghiem

Racism has been the biggest 400 year Affirmative action for white people ever

That's the dirty secret that white people carry around with them, knowing that some of what they have is unearned.

The anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret.
.
If you are white, when you seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, you don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like u, they are white.

You smile. you are white. You are one of them. Even when you get angry. You are cut some slack. After all, you're white.

If affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the workplace could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. This is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race.

 

[IM2]

Nah that's not all I gotta know.
Japanese got reparations. $20,000 each during Reagan.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

From Wrong To Right: A U.S. Apology For Japanese Internment

Japan got US AID after the war to rebuild.

In September, 1945, General Douglas MacArthur took charge of the Supreme Command of Allied Powers (SCAP) and began the work of rebuilding Japan. Although Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China had an advisory role as part of an “Allied Council,” MacArthur had the final authority to make all decisions. The occupation of Japan can be divided into three phases: the initial effort to punish and reform Japan, the work to revive the Japanese economy, and the conclusion of a formal peace treaty and alliance.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

During the Cold War, strategic interests led the U.S. to allow Japan to export to the US while protecting its domestic market, enabling the formation of cartels and non-market driven factors in Japanese economy, and the development of an asymmetrical trade relationship with the U.S. The export-driven economy that Japan consequently developed also benefited enormously from an international market of low tariffs (by joining the GATT, forerunner of WTO), low prices of oil and other raw materials needed for industrial development.

Because Article 9 of the Japanese constitution forbids Japan from rearmament, Japan has lived under the umbrella of U.S. military protection, spending only 1 per cent of their GNP on the military's defensive abilities (which is a huge sum of money as the Japanese economy grew to be the second largest in the world), which, percentage wise, helped save the Japanese much money if they were militarily on their own.

2. The welfare society in Japan

In Japan, a welfare society rather than welfare state exists, characterized by total employment, including cartels of small and medium sized companies to prevent them from bankruptcy in order to maintain total employment.
The welfare society and total employment enabled the Japanese state to devote much of the money it would have spent on welfare to industrial development, in the form of bank loans.

The birth of the welfare society:

During the American occupation:1946-49, Japanese economy was sustained by $500 million annually from the US. Despite this help, because of wartime devastation, Japanese economy was in shambles.

In reaction, the American occupational forces invited the Detroit banker Dodge to balance Japanese economy, who introduced the Dodge Plan (1949): balance budget, reduce inflation, repay Japanese government debts. Fix exchange rate ($1=360 yen). (compared with $1=110 yen today)

That this exchange rate made Japanese yen too expensive shows the high inflation going on in Japan before 1949.

Reaction to the Dodge Plan: massive laying off of workers and economic recession, because Japanese goods became less competitive in the international market (too expensive) (Dodge hoped that after the initial pain, Japanese economy would start steady development later on).

In reaction: state bank loans to private companies to prevent them from bankruptcy. In the 1950s, major concern of Japanese economy was capital accumulation and export promotion; also medium sized companies protested against tax increases. These concerns prevented the formation of a welfare state because that would require tax increases. Instead, the state promoted a welfare society through legislation. The welfare society, through maintaining near total employment via liberal government loans to private companies, dispensed with the need for unemployment benefits. Retirement pensions came largely from personal savings and company compensation, rather than benefits from the state.

The welfare society saved Japanese government much money, which was liberally loaned to companies and guaranteed a secure supply of funding to many companies, leading some to competition and technological innovation. (but it also prevented some companies from upgrading themselves because of guaranteed funding, so it was a two sided story).

Under the welfare society, limited unemployment benefits do exist, but they are provided by the private companies. The unemployment insurance premiums are borne by workers and employers on a fifty-fifty basis. The government pays only a partial sum of the management and operation costs--14 percent of the cost for unemployment insurance and the other services concerning unemployment is covered directly out of the national treasury account. The wage withholding is, in principle, set at 1.1 percent of the total annual salary. However, the actual rate of contribution to these schemes was lowered to 0.9 percent in fiscal 1992, and has been at 0.8 percent since fiscal 1993. Unemployment benefits were 60 percent to 80 percent of the wage before becoming unemployed for a period of 90 to 300 days, which was extended to 330 days after 2001. Conditions vary depending on age and length of time contributing to the system. The larger private companies were also responsible for subsidized housing, health benefits, retirement pension and other benefits for recreational activities in a package called lifetime employment, practiced after 1960. All these, naturally add to the cost of big corporations, which then pass the cost on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Japanese economic takeoff after 1945

So did Europe.

World War II devastated Western Europe, inflicting a staggering death toll on combatants and civilians, and destroying homes, buildings, factories and key

At the time, leaders in Washington understood that the United States had a powerful strategic interest in helping Western Europe to recover and stand on its own. As Secretary of State George C. Marshall said on June 5, 1947: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”

That’s why the United States worked to rebuild post-war Europe, investing $22 billion — or roughly $182 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in economic foreign assistance across 16 war-torn nations from 1946 to 1952. To be sure, America’s post-war commitment to Western Europe demonstrated our nation’s character. Yet it also advanced our economic interests. America’s $182 billion in economic foreign assistance to Europe amounts to far less than the more than $250 billion in goods that the United States now annually exports to those countries.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...06/the-lessons-from-us-aid-after-world-war-ii

Africa was still colonized and blacks still in apartheid here.

So yes, it was discrimination. IQ had nothing to do with it.

Learn the truth.

And that's what you gotta know.

Japanese IQ didn't change because of 20K for Some internment victims.
DOH!
It was the same before AND in Japan for Millennia.
AS I pointed out with Marco Polo, etc
And Japanese are only about 10% of "NE Asians", the highest IQ group, which includes Chinese and Koreans.

Your replies are So bad/illogical they UNwittingly Illustrate/prove the point being discussed.

And we have given Blacks far MORE than 20K in Welfare, Remedial edu, Affirmative Action, etc, for More than 50 years.
More like 10x that.
Nothing changes.

Again:
"MOST American Whites - and ASIANS - didn't come here on the "Mayflower" either. Irish, Italians, Jews, Russians, etc, came here Broke-ass and Discriminated against.
Many signs up into the 60's said "No Blacks OR Jews".

Many Asians in fact, came here as indentured Railway labor just as blacks were being freed from slavery.

Then we Interned the Japanese as late WWII, and they lost everything. We Nuked their resourceLess Seismic Rock, and killed a good portion of their male population.
YET NE Asians HERE surpass us in Average IQ and Income, and Japan was the #2 economy within "50 years" of losing WWII.
Domestically, Jews yet a bit higher.
Discrimination does NOT explain this.

It's IQ.
It's Genetic.
Reality Check:
That's the reason the country And World looks the way it does.
It's that simple.

Before Colonialization Marco Polo found, Silk, Porcelain, Gunpowder, a Civil Service system, and Astronomical records in China/Japan.
*In sub-Saharan Africa, just the same hunter-gatherer man had been 100,000 years ago before migrants who left had Evolved above their ancestral populations. No written language, no wheel.*

Were it not for 'Whites', in fact, sub-Saharan Africa would be the same as it was those milennia ago... even today. Half the continent Wiped out by AIDS or Ebola without White medicine, and many still live in huts. Sub-Sahara still an un-self-governable rabble.

It's that simple/predictable.
The world only makes sense knowing/acknowledging this fact, rather than 10,000 rationalizations/excuses."
.......
The World looks the way it does because of...
IQ.

NE Asians - 106
White/Euro - 100
USA 'Black' - 85 (avg 25% white, 75% sub-Saharan)
sub-Saharan - 70.

That's all you gotta know.
And that's the way the world looked BEFORE SLAVERY/colonialization and still does.
As I pointed out.
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.Well what your ignorant ass pointed out is historically inaccurate. So you're wrong.

Now shut up.

 

[IM2]

For too many times here I have argued with mods about the content here in this section. Far too many times I get responses back with false equivalences of equal racism between blacks and whites. I think we need to understand that there is a difference here and an important distinction needs to be made relative to this matter.

What we call racism by standard has been a general belief by whites not based on anything but a shared ideal that certain people are inferior to whites, What is referred to as black racism is the angry response to people who tell us we are inferior.

There is a major difference and intelligent adults should be able to recognize that difference and try understanding how you would feel if you were the group told how you were all stupid, that your race has never done anything, and that if not for the white man you'd be nothing. I don't think you'd appreciate being called a racist for saying your race is superior after reading pages of how inferior you are to whites in every way. Only a human with no personal pride would accept this kind if constant denigration without fighting back. Yet here blacks doing this are called racists.

Blacks did not choose to come here on the Mayflower with a belief they were superior and more civilized than everyone else. We were bought here on ships like the Amistad then sold into lifetime bondage because of that belief. Then after slavery was made illegal whites created another system on inequality that continued to enforce that same belief for an additional 100 plus years. Only in the last 52 years have blacks been at least free from overt racist beliefs from whites. 52 YEARS! Therefore to try making our experiences here the same and our responses to race and racism the same as whites is erroneous and this error is what needs to stop .

Dear IM2
I am friends with a community leader in Freedmen's Town
who defines racism based on whites having all the power and greater privilege
so that all racism is spelled out from THAT perspective.

The majority of people I know understand racism
more generally to mean ANY prejudice that causes
people to project or discriminate "by association"
with either color, ethnicity, race, or culture that
has been "run together" so that even "discrimination
against Mexicans or Palestinians" is called RACIST.

You made it clear that PREJUDICE is not what you mean
when you are trying to address white racism against blacks
and other minorities as an extension of that.

IM2 these are NOT all the same.
And neither are the people.

You yourself keep trying to blame others "for all doing the same thing"
and trying to "tell others to think and do things THEIR way."

but you also come across the same way
trying to define and impose YOUR perspective on racism
which may not be the way other people approach it or see it.

"we are not all going to see things the same way"

The number one advice I can give you and support you on
is to differentiate your way from other people and not try to make
everyone see it your way either.

If you do that, make that distinction and accept those differences,
you will do MORE to encourage and influence OTHERS
to see your way is different from theirs, and accept that also!!!

Please do not fall further in the trap of mutual resentment
over all people pushing their way. Of course people are
going to defend their positions and perspective,
as you do as well. That's going to happen.

Please do not attack this, but work with it.

You will do more to overcome biases and prejudices
and FEAR of being overrun by other people's ways.

If you want people to differentiate,
keep doing the same. Don't run everyone else
together as the enemy either. We all have the
right to our own views and take responsibility for them.

I don't resent anyone. There are some facts that are central to this discussion. Blacks and whites have had different experiences in America. That is a fact and no matte how many people want to male things the same, they were and are not.

You cannot name one law or policy enacted by blacks that was done to purposefully deny whites of opportunities. I'm not trying to make anyone see anything. But just as you can say he sun rises in the daytime, and that is a fact, there have been laws and policies enacted by whites one on purpose to deny people of color of opportunity. This went on for at least 188 years by written law and for whites think that we all should just forget and ignore what happens or those who are angry about it are racists is just a willful refusal to accept responsibility for the damage created by the racism whites have caused.

I'm listening to what people say, but really there are no two sides to listen to. Whites in America have treated people of color wrongly. It is documented in our courthouses, state law books, museums and almost every other record keeping facility.

You see whites are always telling us how we should do things. How we shouldn't be resentful for what they have done to us. The thing is if anything happens to whites they do all the tings they tell us we should not do. Look at what you read in this forum. Yet we are to speak nicely and not to lump all whites into a group while they do it every day. We are not to show resentment, yet they have made up an untrue tale about how they are being discriminated against because they resent us getting equal opportunity.

Dear IM2
A. From what I understand, Affirmative Action quotas were finally struck down as unconstitutional. So this poor attempt (where AA started off as an initiative for urban development before it became corrupted as quotas that couldn't be enforced without causing worse complications) did end up backfiring. Although I would agree with you it DIDN'T COME FROM BLACKS but came from the same political elite that try to control everything and end up screwing things up worse.

Because the Black leadership and communities have to form their own representation, the solutions do not come out as legislation that is monopolized by the corporatized elite. So I would agree with you that Blacks have not had access or equal representation to put forth any corrective legislation, and certainly not any that causes harm.

The WORST example I would give is Obama pushing the ACA mandates that deprived all citizens of freedom to choose health care provisions but penalized people deprived of liberty without due process through taxation without representation. You could say that the Black interests got Obama elected and resulted in this legislation coming out in corrupted form that has never been checked or corrected; but I'd still blame that on CORPORATE interests that keep hijacking the process and preventing representation of the real people and communities still not being heard or their interests and beliefs protected.

So I would agree that given the MONOPOLIZED system that is still hijacked by corporate elite, NOBODY is getting represented now. Both the rich and the poor are complaining, because govt run amok is costing all of us our freedom and our budgets and economy, and our labor. Nobody is happy. This is costing everyone.

B. As for solutions that WOULD help the Black community and interests to overcome historic inequity and setbacks economically and politically,
I would like to propose to you and also Asclepias to back up Freedmen's Town historic descendant and business leader GLADYS HOUSE in leading a plan to restore this national Freed Slave settlement as a campus for teaching and training residents and leaders in (a) property and business ownership and management on a no risk basis where the school program owns the property under a trust that the interns are trained to manage through experienced mentors (before forming teams to create other sites for owning and managing property as a self-sustaining campus community)
(b) microlending, financial, credit and investment training and management
(c) media and communications outreach (d) spiritual counseling, health and healing of relations to prevent criminal abuse, addiction and crime that otherwise costs communities millions in incarceration that could be invested in localized health care, elderly facilities and daycare (e) legal and govt training and mentorship to become civic, business and govt leaders, with internships and on the job training at every level of govt from homeowner associations to city/county and state/federal.

Gladys has been funding and fighting this battle alone, because of perceptions of race and gender that have isolated her as a Black women Republican business and community leader.

I would like to ask the help of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, Mayor Turner, and Lt. Col. Allen West, to invite Colin Kaepernick to take on this Freedmen's Town project, and raise between $2-10 million of the multimillions owed to taxpayers in restitution for abuses of public funds and authority to destroy this nationally registered historic district of Freed Slave, Black church, and military history , which includes an additional nationally registered WWII military and Civil Rights landmark site within the district.

this historic public housing complex was the site of several legal battles over (1) eminent domain to deprive Black and Italian landowners of private property in order to build segregated public housing for whites only (2) civil rights and desegregation that after the Civil Rights Act was passed (3) the 1996 court battle over eviction that I argued violated the inalienable Constitutional rights of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the govt collectively as a community to redress grievances and to enforce the Campus Plans that residents had passed into federal laws under HOPE VI HUD reforms, as personally signed and endorsed by HUD secretary and Congresswoman Lee.

Please see www.campusplan.org for the original plans for sustainable community development as a campus managed by residents under a democratically elected resident council

Please see www.freedmenstown.com for Gladys House's plans to save the last block of 10 historic rowhouses for Veterans, to create construction and development jobs for local residents to become financially stabilized and self-supporting.

And the list I summarized of just 3 of the cases of fraud, corporate abuse or malfeasance at taxpayers' expense for which the community is owed millions in restitution that I have urged officials to invest in restoration to right these wrongs, as the worst case and ongoing pattern of political abuse and corruption targeting Black community interests and history, which amounts to genocide of this unique settlement with its own culture and economy destroyed by corporate abuse of political power and process.

Here is the link to the letter I wrote to Senator Cruz that listed 3 of the cases that are documented so that restitution can be assessed: Bull Ring - Anonymous1977: emilynghiem is Asian I support Freedmen's Town plan for Constitutional equality
I have proposed to allow interested citizens and community leaders to "buy shares" in these debts, so the property is held as collateral, and owned/managed by the people like Gladys House who have invested capital and labor in restoration plans.

If you want to see a documented case of abuses and solutions, so that this district can be used as a model for restitution or "reparations" for systemic oppression, abuses and deprivation of rights against the Black community,
and use the Federal Reserve facility on site as a banking system for monitoring debts, damages and credits to be invested in developing other districts also oppressed and deprived of equal protection of the laws,
then I ask you to please join this effort, and let's use Freedmen's Town as a national model to create a system for addressing and correcting these wrongs.

I would like help to form a team around Gladys House and other Republicans, and Congresswoman Lee and other Democrats, to stop the division over party politics, rich and poor, that is dividing and destroying our communities and our nation, including our ability to invest in restoration.

Thank you and I hope you are as serious about creating a model for corrections and restitution. Actions speak louder than words. We create a solution that works, and other communities and leaders will follow.
www.earnedamnesty.org


Yours truly,
Emily Nghiem

Emily, Affirmative Action never really had quotas unless you met certain criteria. And if you read the policy instead of letting whites tell you about it, then you understand that quotas and timetables were only required if and only if the business or university in question had a documented history of under utilizing minorities meaning they were still practicing racial discrimination. Opposition to Affirmatives Action using this weak lie of an argument has been waged by right wing racists who want to continue racial discrimination. It's time you black republicans understood this and as you are not white, quit repeating and supporting a lie told to race bait on purpose to end the policy.

Last, when you talk about the ACA understand that the individual mandate is a republican idea proposed in a heritage foundation health care plan.

 

[IM2]

Nah that's not all I gotta know.

Japanese got reparations. $20,000 each during Reagan.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

From Wrong To Right: A U.S. Apology For Japanese Internment

Japan got US AID after the war to rebuild.

In September, 1945, General Douglas MacArthur took charge of the Supreme Command of Allied Powers (SCAP) and began the work of rebuilding Japan. Although Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and the Republic of China had an advisory role as part of an “Allied Council,” MacArthur had the final authority to make all decisions. The occupation of Japan can be divided into three phases: the initial effort to punish and reform Japan, the work to revive the Japanese economy, and the conclusion of a formal peace treaty and alliance.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

During the Cold War, strategic interests led the U.S. to allow Japan to export to the US while protecting its domestic market, enabling the formation of cartels and non-market driven factors in Japanese economy, and the development of an asymmetrical trade relationship with the U.S. The export-driven economy that Japan consequently developed also benefited enormously from an international market of low tariffs (by joining the GATT, forerunner of WTO), low prices of oil and other raw materials needed for industrial development.

Because Article 9 of the Japanese constitution forbids Japan from rearmament, Japan has lived under the umbrella of U.S. military protection, spending only 1 per cent of their GNP on the military's defensive abilities (which is a huge sum of money as the Japanese economy grew to be the second largest in the world), which, percentage wise, helped save the Japanese much money if they were militarily on their own.

2. The welfare society in Japan

In Japan, a welfare society rather than welfare state exists, characterized by total employment, including cartels of small and medium sized companies to prevent them from bankruptcy in order to maintain total employment.
The welfare society and total employment enabled the Japanese state to devote much of the money it would have spent on welfare to industrial development, in the form of bank loans.

The birth of the welfare society:

During the American occupation:1946-49, Japanese economy was sustained by $500 million annually from the US. Despite this help, because of wartime devastation, Japanese economy was in shambles.

In reaction, the American occupational forces invited the Detroit banker Dodge to balance Japanese economy, who introduced the Dodge Plan (1949): balance budget, reduce inflation, repay Japanese government debts. Fix exchange rate ($1=360 yen). (compared with $1=110 yen today)

That this exchange rate made Japanese yen too expensive shows the high inflation going on in Japan before 1949.

Reaction to the Dodge Plan: massive laying off of workers and economic recession, because Japanese goods became less competitive in the international market (too expensive) (Dodge hoped that after the initial pain, Japanese economy would start steady development later on).

In reaction: state bank loans to private companies to prevent them from bankruptcy. In the 1950s, major concern of Japanese economy was capital accumulation and export promotion; also medium sized companies protested against tax increases. These concerns prevented the formation of a welfare state because that would require tax increases. Instead, the state promoted a welfare society through legislation. The welfare society, through maintaining near total employment via liberal government loans to private companies, dispensed with the need for unemployment benefits. Retirement pensions came largely from personal savings and company compensation, rather than benefits from the state.

The welfare society saved Japanese government much money, which was liberally loaned to companies and guaranteed a secure supply of funding to many companies, leading some to competition and technological innovation. (but it also prevented some companies from upgrading themselves because of guaranteed funding, so it was a two sided story).

Under the welfare society, limited unemployment benefits do exist, but they are provided by the private companies. The unemployment insurance premiums are borne by workers and employers on a fifty-fifty basis. The government pays only a partial sum of the management and operation costs--14 percent of the cost for unemployment insurance and the other services concerning unemployment is covered directly out of the national treasury account. The wage withholding is, in principle, set at 1.1 percent of the total annual salary. However, the actual rate of contribution to these schemes was lowered to 0.9 percent in fiscal 1992, and has been at 0.8 percent since fiscal 1993. Unemployment benefits were 60 percent to 80 percent of the wage before becoming unemployed for a period of 90 to 300 days, which was extended to 330 days after 2001. Conditions vary depending on age and length of time contributing to the system. The larger private companies were also responsible for subsidized housing, health benefits, retirement pension and other benefits for recreational activities in a package called lifetime employment, practiced after 1960. All these, naturally add to the cost of big corporations, which then pass the cost on to the consumers in the form of higher prices.

Japanese economic takeoff after 1945

So did Europe.

World War II devastated Western Europe, inflicting a staggering death toll on combatants and civilians, and destroying homes, buildings, factories and key

At the time, leaders in Washington understood that the United States had a powerful strategic interest in helping Western Europe to recover and stand on its own. As Secretary of State George C. Marshall said on June 5, 1947: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”

That’s why the United States worked to rebuild post-war Europe, investing $22 billion — or roughly $182 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in economic foreign assistance across 16 war-torn nations from 1946 to 1952. To be sure, America’s post-war commitment to Western Europe demonstrated our nation’s character. Yet it also advanced our economic interests. America’s $182 billion in economic foreign assistance to Europe amounts to far less than the more than $250 billion in goods that the United States now annually exports to those countries.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...06/the-lessons-from-us-aid-after-world-war-ii

Africa was still colonized and blacks still in apartheid here.

So yes, it was discrimination. IQ had nothing to do with it.

Learn the truth.

And that's what you gotta know.

People ALIVE got compensation, not their descendants 150 years later.

Cobell v Salazar dumb ass. Go look it up. Besides white liability for reparations did not end 150 years ago.

I have no problem for compensation for anyone still alive who was a slave. How's that?

Do you care that you are paying Native Americans today for things that happened 200 years ago? Because you are.

How's that?

Apples and oranges.

Nope it's the exact same thing. You are beaten and you can't defend yourself.

 

[Meathead]

People ALIVE got compensation, not their descendants 150 years later.

Cobell v Salazar dumb ass. Go look it up. Besides white liability for reparations did not end 150 years ago.

I have no problem for compensation for anyone still alive who was a slave. How's that?

Do you care that you are paying Native Americans today for things that happened 200 years ago? Because you are.

How's that?

Apples and oranges.

Nope it's the exact same thing. You are beaten and you can't defend yourself.

Stop begging. A little bit of pride is a good thing.

 

[IM2]

For too many times here I have argued with mods about the content here in this section. Far too many times I get responses back with false equivalences of equal racism between blacks and whites. I think we need to understand that there is a difference here and an important distinction needs to be made relative to this matter.

What we call racism by standard has been a general belief by whites not based on anything but a shared ideal that certain people are inferior to whites,

That sort of racism doesn't exist (well, unless you run into a total shut-in who has never seen or read about negroes who happens to be racist). White racism is based on statistical observation of negroes in America, Europe, and Africa. There are also personal observations, like my observation of your stupid posts where you blame whites for Mugabe's actions, flip-flop on per capita statistics, etc...

Actually it does and you practice it. .White racism is not based on anything but a bunch of opinions from retarded whites losers.

Crime statistics aren't opinions, idiot.

And crime statistics show that whites commit the most crimes.

They show blacks commit violent crimes at a higher rate than whites. Like I told you before, if 100/100 blacks are violent criminals and 200 out of 2,000,000 whites are violent criminals (in a country with a population of 2,000,000 whites and 100 blacks), is the average white more violent than the average black?

The show that whites commit more crimes. About 2.5 times more crime. You only talk about violet crime not all crime.. What you told me doesn't mean anything. You were shown that blacks commit 14 murders per 100,000. That's such a low percentage that it begins with zero and gas several zeros in front of it before you get a number. So there is your rate. But your argument says that since whites are 70 percent pf the population t's ok to commit most of the crimes. That's dumb.

And given that whites have an unprecedented historical track record of violence spanning at least 241 years, that whites made laws to allow themselves to commit violence, that they murdered people of color and were allowed by the courts to walk., exterminated millions of Indians in an attempt at genocide, your punk ass is in no position to ty using math tricks trying to male a claim that you are telling someone something. Whites are the most violent people here. That's is a proven fact. So if you want to talk about violent crime, we can do that, but all you will end up doing is taking punks road because you can't face the truth about what your white asses have done.
.

 

[Meathead]

That sort of racism doesn't exist (well, unless you run into a total shut-in who has never seen or read about negroes who happens to be racist). White racism is based on statistical observation of negroes in America, Europe, and Africa. There are also personal observations, like my observation of your stupid posts where you blame whites for Mugabe's actions, flip-flop on per capita statistics, etc...

Actually it does and you practice it. .White racism is not based on anything but a bunch of opinions from retarded whites losers.

Crime statistics aren't opinions, idiot.

And crime statistics show that whites commit the most crimes.

They show blacks commit violent crimes at a higher rate than whites. Like I told you before, if 100/100 blacks are violent criminals and 200 out of 2,000,000 whites are violent criminals (in a country with a population of 2,000,000 whites and 100 blacks), is the average white more violent than the average black?

The show that whites commit more crimes. About 2.5 times more crime. You only talk about violet crime not all crime.. What you told me doesn't mean anything. You were shown that blacks commit 14 murders per 100,000. That's such a low percentage that it begins with zero and gas several zeros in front of it before you get a number. So there is your rate. But your argument says that since whites are 70 percent pf the population t's ok to commit most of the crimes. That's dumb.

And given that whites have an unprecedented historical track record of violence spanning at least 241 years, that whites made laws to allow themselves to commit violence, that they murdered people of color and were allowed by the courts to walk., exterminated millions of Indians in an attempt at genocide, your punk ass is in no position to ty using math tricks trying to male a claim that you are telling someone something. Whites are the most violent people here. That's is a proven fact. So if you want to talk about violent crime, we can do that, but all you will end up doing is taking punks road because you can't face the truth about what your white asses have done.
.

I think people would care less about the extreme rates of black violence if they kept it to themselves. Alas, that is not true, they murder whites too.

 

[IM2]

Things you are to scared to read because you don't want to leave the slavery you live in on your conservative right wing plantation

Yoda says the stereotyping force is strong within you..

Let's get this straight. I am NOT a "right-winger" STEEEERIKE ONE. I can out liberal you on a lot of issues. My political life has been to work for ballot and debate access for Independents and 3rd parties. And I'm 20 year WORKING member of the Libertarian Party. The one that nominated an openly GAY man for Prez in the 70s because he was the "right one for the job".. .

STEERIKE TWO. I'm NEVER afraid to read anything that might conflict with my highly polished and very strong political compass. I HAVE THAT leisure to ponder issues without a STRICT REGIMEN of political conformity like MOST americans who just can't get past the two old and decrepit, inept, arrogant and corrupt 2 party system..

Here comes the next pitch. Better hope it's out of the strike zone...

Yoda says you are an idiot. You can be right wing and libertarian fool.

 

[bgrouse]

Blacks tried to build a society called Africa but it's a total failure. You should thank your lucky stars that whites let you ungrateful bunch live in our society.

Do you honestly believe these two things you said?

I think that if you push people to ACCEPT grand fairytales of African successes, and constantly make excuses to wipe out the INTERNAL problems that black Americans face by BLAMING WHITES AS A GROUP -- that's what you get back.

It's much the same backlash that Obama got to his collectivist "You didn't build that".. When you point fingers -- you get them pointed back at you. (See my Avie pic for a demonstration.) And then NORMAL reasoned dialogue becomes impossible.

If I was pushing a fairy tale then what you say would have credence. You have been shown the truth and quite frankly I don't give a good goobly damn what you and the rest if these retards come back with. All you are going to get are more historically documented facts and peer reviewed studies. Things you are to scared to read

Too scared to read?

It's more a matter of doesn't want to read because it's probably wrong, irrelevant, or a combination thereof. He probably noticed a habit you have of copying and pasting voluminous amounts of information without reading it (beyond the title/first sentence) and when questioned about it, you refuse to discuss it. So why should he bother? He might make a great, concise, thoughtful point and you'll come back with 10 posts of irrelevant copying and pasting/linking that you didn't even read. And you expect him to read all of it and respond intelligently? Why? So you can ignore what he wrote and post 10 more links that don't prove anything in your argument? Nobody is going to dedicate unlimited patience in order to deal with you when you're too stupid and lazy to so much as suggest that you are capable of critical thought.

I read what I post. I've proven my arguments. You are the one who can't. You never do.

Really? So would you care to address this post?

It makes you question "entitlement". People that preach entitlement, are scared of their own faults.

Yep and that is what whites are preaching. White entitlement.

Whites are preaching that they are entitled...to what exactly?

So you think that you are entitled to everything because you are white.

And I said this...where? Exact quote, please.

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Did ever occur to you, that not everybody wants to sling meat in a ww, while texting a girlfriend, while the big screen tv is blaring noise that makes you not hear the pizza delivery guy knocking on the door, after he pulls up in a battery charged car....maybe just maybe some people like the simple things in life!!

So why are blacks drowning (literally) to get to a white country?

Because all blacks aren't. Besides there are plenty of whites crashing in planes trying to get into black and brown countries.

Who? Let's compare statistics.

And I do think you need to understand that the Africa you talk about doesn't exist, it never has existed, it's a racist figment you have chosen to believe and it is fake news.

1.2 billion people live in Africa and its growing. It is he second largest continent on the planet obly behind chinas 1,41 billion. Europe has 734 million. America 323 million. Canada 36 million. Australia 24 million

The African nations as a whole are made up from such a diverse set of components that it is impossible to list them in full concerning demographics. However, in certain parts of the continent there have been an increase in Asian and European settlers, which has also served to boost the population statistics as a whole.

In former British colonies, this can be seen extensively, and Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and South Africa are all good examples as to a growing set of diverse ethnicities.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/continents/africa-population/

So how many whites crashed in shitty planes/drowned near shitty rafts this year trying to migrate to Africa?

Looks like the shitskin drowning tally passed 1,000 as of April 22 this year.

More refugees are dying than ever before - and the people trying to save them are under attack

Your turn.

The reason I said you don't read what you post is based on (among other things) your consistent derision of per capita statistics in general followed by an apparent copy-and-paste of per capita statistics.

Do you honestly believe these two things you said?

I think that if you push people to ACCEPT grand fairytales of African successes, and constantly make excuses to wipe out the INTERNAL problems that black Americans face by BLAMING WHITES AS A GROUP -- that's what you get back.

It's much the same backlash that Obama got to his collectivist "You didn't build that".. When you point fingers -- you get them pointed back at you. (See my Avie pic for a demonstration.) And then NORMAL reasoned dialogue becomes impossible.

If I was pushing a fairy tale then what you say would have credence. You have been shown the truth and quite frankly I don't give a good goobly damn what you and the rest if these retards come back with. All you are going to get are more historically documented facts and peer reviewed studies. Things you are to scared to read

Too scared to read?

It's more a matter of doesn't want to read because it's probably wrong, irrelevant, or a combination thereof. He probably noticed a habit you have of copying and pasting voluminous amounts of information without reading it (beyond the title/first sentence) and when questioned about it, you refuse to discuss it. So why should he bother? He might make a great, concise, thoughtful point and you'll come back with 10 posts of irrelevant copying and pasting/linking that you didn't even read. And you expect him to read all of it and respond intelligently? Why? So you can ignore what he wrote and post 10 more links that don't prove anything in your argument? Nobody is going to dedicate unlimited patience in order to deal with you when you're too stupid and lazy to so much as suggest that you are capable of critical thought.

That TED talk about Africa he posted comes to mind. I watch it. IM2 didn't or didn't understand it. Because the guy was blaming Africa's troubles on corrupt incompetent leadership which is exactly what I was saying as IM2 is sitting there trying to defend Mugabe and his corrupt dictatorship.

And then you have this OP. Which is an opinion piece, not a research article, that IM2 BELIEVES is peer reviewed academics that MEANS anything. And just continually tells folks -- they're scared. And wrong.

Well I guess if I was SCARED -- it's better than being brainwashed.

This thread is not about Africa. It does not have the videos in it. The OP in this thread was me posting an opinion. Nothing here is about so called fairy tales about Africa, you have posted at least 2 posts that are not subject matter. Yet you demand that of others and will close threads. You are here trolling threads and yet you will close others and delete posts in them for the same off topic content you have posted here.

Every one of your posts no matter where you post in this section stink with white supremacy. And here you have encouraged a troll to continue doing so.

You talk about blacks choosing not to be white so they just stay in supposedly failing and unsafe cities on purpose. Do you know how stupid that sounds? .Yet you can't see how this comment can be called racist or evidence of a belief in white supremacy. Blacks are failing because they don't want to act white. If that's not obvious white supremacy there is no such thing.

So since you want to talk about fairy tales? Maybe you or bgrouse will care answer this question:

How have whites become so "successful"?

As a race: hard work and intellectual ability.

That sort of racism doesn't exist (well, unless you run into a total shut-in who has never seen or read about negroes who happens to be racist). White racism is based on statistical observation of negroes in America, Europe, and Africa. There are also personal observations, like my observation of your stupid posts where you blame whites for Mugabe's actions, flip-flop on per capita statistics, etc...

Actually it does and you practice it. .White racism is not based on anything but a bunch of opinions from retarded whites losers.

Crime statistics aren't opinions, idiot.

And crime statistics show that whites commit the most crimes.

They show blacks commit violent crimes at a higher rate than whites. Like I told you before, if 100/100 blacks are violent criminals and 200 out of 2,000,000 whites are violent criminals (in a country with a population of 2,000,000 whites and 100 blacks), is the average white more violent than the average black?

The show that whites commit more crimes. About 2.5 times more crime. You only talk about violet crime not all crime..

Because I don't care about speeding, you stupid shitskin. I told you this already.

What you told me doesn't mean anything. You were shown that blacks commit 14 murders per 100,000. That's such a low percentage that it begins with zero and gas several zeros in front of it before you get a number. So there is your rate. But your argument says that since whites are 70 percent pf the population t's ok to commit most of the crimes. That's dumb.

Do you understand that you sound like a retard when you say I am too focused when I discuss violent crimes (as opposed to other crimes like speeding) and then you focus strictly on murders (a very rare category of violent crime)?

And given that whites have an unprecedented historical track record of violence spanning at least 241 years, that whites made laws to allow themselves to commit violence, that they murdered people of color and were allowed by the courts to walk., exterminated millions of Indians in an attempt at genocide, your punk ass is in no position to ty using math tricks trying to male a claim that you are telling someone something. Whites are the most violent people here. That's is a proven fact. So if you want to talk about violent crime, we can do that, but all you will end up doing is taking punks road because you can't face the truth about what your white asses have done.
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So move to Apefreaka, you piece of shit. Take your turd-colored skin and move away from all the violence. As long as you stay, you are as full of shit as your shit-colored skin suggests. And yes, I know you don't HAVE to move. That's not what I said, I said you SHOULD move IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU POST.

 

[IM2]

All you are going to get are more historically documented facts and peer reviewed studies.

That's not what I've gotten and seen. The whole deal about carbon tempered steel being a gift from Africa to the rest of the world was based on a few obscure links to articles printing in 70s by a pair of researchers. The SAME research was then peer reviewed and forced those authors to RETRACT many of their claims. That's a fact I just gave you.

And as for your "diversity trainer" tool, peer review on OPINION PIECES means nothing. Jack shit from an academic standpoint if the peer review is done by OTHERS in the "Big Diversity" business for a living. The OP is all asserted opinions. It is NOT a scientific article. I've authored dozens of scientific peer reviewed papers and OPINIONS are not welcomed in a TRUE scientific study..

Again this thread is not about Africa, nor is it about the study on individualism. You have again posted off topic. If you want to discuss such issues there are threads available to do so.

BTW

Title Why Can’t We All Just Be Individuals?: Countering the Discourse of Individualism in Antiracist Education
Permalink Why Can’t We All Just Be Individuals?: Countering the Discourse of Individualism in Anti-racist Education - eScholarship
Journal InterActions: UCLA Journal of Education and Information Studies, 6(1)
ISSN 1548-3320
Author DiAngelo, Robin J Publication Date 2010-01-25
Peer reviewed

This is a peer reviewed scientific study idiot. It is not just opinion. You did not get past the intro to learn that because of your racial bias.. So shut up about the study that is not the OP of this thread.

 

[IM2]

Do you honestly believe these two things you said?

I think that if you push people to ACCEPT grand fairytales of African successes, and constantly make excuses to wipe out the INTERNAL problems that black Americans face by BLAMING WHITES AS A GROUP -- that's what you get back.

It's much the same backlash that Obama got to his collectivist "You didn't build that".. When you point fingers -- you get them pointed back at you. (See my Avie pic for a demonstration.) And then NORMAL reasoned dialogue becomes impossible.

If I was pushing a fairy tale then what you say would have credence. You have been shown the truth and quite frankly I don't give a good goobly damn what you and the rest if these retards come back with. All you are going to get are more historically documented facts and peer reviewed studies. Things you are to scared to read

Too scared to read?

It's more a matter of doesn't want to read because it's probably wrong, irrelevant, or a combination thereof. He probably noticed a habit you have of copying and pasting voluminous amounts of information without reading it (beyond the title/first sentence) and when questioned about it, you refuse to discuss it. So why should he bother? He might make a great, concise, thoughtful point and you'll come back with 10 posts of irrelevant copying and pasting/linking that you didn't even read. And you expect him to read all of it and respond intelligently? Why? So you can ignore what he wrote and post 10 more links that don't prove anything in your argument? Nobody is going to dedicate unlimited patience in order to deal with you when you're too stupid and lazy to so much as suggest that you are capable of critical thought.

I read what I post. I've proven my arguments. You are the one who can't. You never do.

Really? So would you care to address this post?

It makes you question "entitlement". People that preach entitlement, are scared of their own faults.

Yep and that is what whites are preaching. White entitlement.

Whites are preaching that they are entitled...to what exactly?

So you think that you are entitled to everything because you are white.

And I said this...where? Exact quote, please.

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So why are blacks drowning (literally) to get to a white country?

Because all blacks aren't. Besides there are plenty of whites crashing in planes trying to get into black and brown countries.

Who? Let's compare statistics.

And I do think you need to understand that the Africa you talk about doesn't exist, it never has existed, it's a racist figment you have chosen to believe and it is fake news.

1.2 billion people live in Africa and its growing. It is he second largest continent on the planet obly behind chinas 1,41 billion. Europe has 734 million. America 323 million. Canada 36 million. Australia 24 million

The African nations as a whole are made up from such a diverse set of components that it is impossible to list them in full concerning demographics. However, in certain parts of the continent there have been an increase in Asian and European settlers, which has also served to boost the population statistics as a whole.

In former British colonies, this can be seen extensively, and Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and South Africa are all good examples as to a growing set of diverse ethnicities.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/continents/africa-population/

So how many whites crashed in shitty planes/drowned near shitty rafts this year trying to migrate to Africa?

Looks like the shitskin drowning tally passed 1,000 as of April 22 this year.

More refugees are dying than ever before - and the people trying to save them are under attack

Your turn.

The reason I said you don't read what you post is based on (among other things) your consistent derision of per capita statistics in general followed by an apparent copy-and-paste of per capita statistics.

I think that if you push people to ACCEPT grand fairytales of African successes, and constantly make excuses to wipe out the INTERNAL problems that black Americans face by BLAMING WHITES AS A GROUP -- that's what you get back.

It's much the same backlash that Obama got to his collectivist "You didn't build that".. When you point fingers -- you get them pointed back at you. (See my Avie pic for a demonstration.) And then NORMAL reasoned dialogue becomes impossible.

If I was pushing a fairy tale then what you say would have credence. You have been shown the truth and quite frankly I don't give a good goobly damn what you and the rest if these retards come back with. All you are going to get are more historically documented facts and peer reviewed studies. Things you are to scared to read

Too scared to read?

It's more a matter of doesn't want to read because it's probably wrong, irrelevant, or a combination thereof. He probably noticed a habit you have of copying and pasting voluminous amounts of information without reading it (beyond the title/first sentence) and when questioned about it, you refuse to discuss it. So why should he bother? He might make a great, concise, thoughtful point and you'll come back with 10 posts of irrelevant copying and pasting/linking that you didn't even read. And you expect him to read all of it and respond intelligently? Why? So you can ignore what he wrote and post 10 more links that don't prove anything in your argument? Nobody is going to dedicate unlimited patience in order to deal with you when you're too stupid and lazy to so much as suggest that you are capable of critical thought.

That TED talk about Africa he posted comes to mind. I watch it. IM2 didn't or didn't understand it. Because the guy was blaming Africa's troubles on corrupt incompetent leadership which is exactly what I was saying as IM2 is sitting there trying to defend Mugabe and his corrupt dictatorship.

And then you have this OP. Which is an opinion piece, not a research article, that IM2 BELIEVES is peer reviewed academics that MEANS anything. And just continually tells folks -- they're scared. And wrong.

Well I guess if I was SCARED -- it's better than being brainwashed.

This thread is not about Africa. It does not have the videos in it. The OP in this thread was me posting an opinion. Nothing here is about so called fairy tales about Africa, you have posted at least 2 posts that are not subject matter. Yet you demand that of others and will close threads. You are here trolling threads and yet you will close others and delete posts in them for the same off topic content you have posted here.

Every one of your posts no matter where you post in this section stink with white supremacy. And here you have encouraged a troll to continue doing so.

You talk about blacks choosing not to be white so they just stay in supposedly failing and unsafe cities on purpose. Do you know how stupid that sounds? .Yet you can't see how this comment can be called racist or evidence of a belief in white supremacy. Blacks are failing because they don't want to act white. If that's not obvious white supremacy there is no such thing.

So since you want to talk about fairy tales? Maybe you or bgrouse will care answer this question:

How have whites become so "successful"?

As a race: hard work and intellectual ability.

Actually it does and you practice it. .White racism is not based on anything but a bunch of opinions from retarded whites losers.

Crime statistics aren't opinions, idiot.

And crime statistics show that whites commit the most crimes.

They show blacks commit violent crimes at a higher rate than whites. Like I told you before, if 100/100 blacks are violent criminals and 200 out of 2,000,000 whites are violent criminals (in a country with a population of 2,000,000 whites and 100 blacks), is the average white more violent than the average black?

The show that whites commit more crimes. About 2.5 times more crime. You only talk about violet crime not all crime..

Because I don't care about speeding, you stupid shitskin. I told you this already.

What you told me doesn't mean anything. You were shown that blacks commit 14 murders per 100,000. That's such a low percentage that it begins with zero and gas several zeros in front of it before you get a number. So there is your rate. But your argument says that since whites are 70 percent pf the population t's ok to commit most of the crimes. That's dumb.

Do you understand that you sound like a retard when you say I am too focused when I discuss violent crimes (as opposed to other crimes like speeding) and then you focus strictly on murders (a very rare category of violent crime)?

And given that whites have an unprecedented historical track record of violence spanning at least 241 years, that whites made laws to allow themselves to commit violence, that they murdered people of color and were allowed by the courts to walk., exterminated millions of Indians in an attempt at genocide, your punk ass is in no position to ty using math tricks trying to male a claim that you are telling someone something. Whites are the most violent people here. That's is a proven fact. So if you want to talk about violent crime, we can do that, but all you will end up doing is taking punks road because you can't face the truth about what your white asses have done.
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So move to Apefreaka, you piece of shit. Take your turd-colored skin and move away from all the violence. As long as you stay, you are as full of shit as your shit-colored skin suggests. And yes, I know you don't HAVE to move. That's not what I said, I said you SHOULD move IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU POST.

Per capita is not a respected measurement of crime. Your argument is based on a population based claim. So let me show you how invalid what your illiterate ass thinks is.

Since whites have 5 times the population and we want to make that an issue let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community.. Let’s reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty lets reduce that times 5 to make it 4.5 percent. Funny how you guys can only multiply when it comes to crimes. Lets keep multiplying folks.

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now, We all have 5 times the amount of money we can spend and have earned. What happens them? All kinds of community development that’s what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money in our schools. So now let’s multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5 there are now 8.5 million blacks in college. This increase in population and jobs lowers the unemployment rate so you have fewer blacks on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced because you have facilities and jobs available for them in their immediate communities. So then what happens to crime then if we do this, it reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime reduces itself

We aren't talking about speeding here. Embezzlement and fraud, crimes hat steal billions from innocent people rendering them broke and hopeless, crimes just as crippling as taking a bullet, just as violent to the victim, are crimes primarily done by whites. Drunken and impaired driving responsible for the deaths and crippling of thousands annually are crimes committed by whites. Crimes against families, whites lead in.

27 out of the 30 categories of crime whites lead in. Whites lead in violent crime, not blacks.

You have lived a lie. Whites have not been successful because of hard work and intellectual ability. You made laws that denied non whites from having the same opportunities. I expected your answer due to the fact I know that you are an idiot.

I am an American. As such have he right to peacefully air my grievance. As such I have the right to fight ad change the problem or end it. So as such don't give a ***** like you the pleasure of running away so you can continue doing what you do. What I do is I fight and beat your ass. So I don't go anywhere.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you're not in Africa then you should thank the white man for letting you stay here in our white supremacist society, as you would call it. And if you're so unhappy here, why don't you go back to Africa.

No, I don't have to thank the white man for a damn thing. You thank the white man for allowing you to stay here without becoming a serf.

My ancestors WERE serfs back in the old country. Good thing MY family didn't stick around there and do nothing but complain.

Well I was born here and since your punk ass doesn't tell whites who complain about this country to go back to Europe then I'm going to stay.

I don't care if you stay, just stop blaming whites for slavery. We weren't alive, so NOT OUR PROBLEM!
Just like IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO YOU, so you get no compensation.

I will blame whites for slavery, the 100 years after slavery for right now and in the future until white racism ends here. Your white ass is the beneficiary of all these things. So we are owed compensation and what you think doesn't erase the debt owed.

Waaahhhh....****** is mean to me........waaaahhhhh