We’re number 37! USA USA USA!!

[Claudette]

You can thank government run Medicare fraud for that.

HOw about Medicaid also??

Oh I know Medicaid is even worse. This thanksgiving I was at a dinner where this teen pregnant with twins on Welfare & Medicaid had a few contractions after traveling to get there, stuffing her face with deserts & going outside to smoke some cigarettes. Now she had already been to several Medicaid doctors who put her on bed rest & band her from smoking to prevent premature births. Now her friend calls the teens doctor & 20 minutes later here comes a helicopter & takes her to a university hospital. They C-section the babies both under 2-lbs & have had them hospitalized every since. So far the bill is $750,000.00 which would deliver & care for 24 for regular babies in the real world. Since the government is paying all prevention caution has been thrown to the wind & no price is to high. NOW TELL ME AGAIN YOU LYING LIBTARDS HOW WE HAVE CRAPPY COVERAGE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

Oh yeah. OUr taxdollars at work. Bet the little chick has never had a job and now never will. Welfare and medicaid for the rest of her life at taxpayer expense. Isnt' America wonderful.

 

[Some Guy]

Oh yeah. OUr taxdollars at work. Bet the little chick has never had a job and now never will. Welfare and medicaid for the rest of her life at taxpayer expense. Isnt' America wonderful.

No. According to a lot of people here, America is a cruel, unforgiving place where everyone who can't afford the best medical care are denied and left to die in the street.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

For those of you that dispute the source (Like Gunny) please state an alternative source or sources that you find credible.

There are NONE, There is no standard by which to compare different Countries. THAT is the point. When respondent Countries are free to report what ever the hell they want you have no means to compare. Again going back to live Births I believe in some third world Countries unless the baby is a month old it is NOT recorded as a live birth. In the US as soon as it is born ALIVE it is recorded as such, even if so premature it has no chance of surviving.

And that occurs across all the areas measured, each individual Country is free to determine their own reporting methods and procedures.

 

[KissMy]

This thanksgiving I was at a dinner where this teen pregnant with twins on Welfare & Medicaid had a few contractions after traveling to get there, drinking Coffee, stuffing her face with deserts & going outside to smoke some Cigarettes. Now she had already been to several Medicaid doctors who put her on bed rest & band her from smoking to prevent premature births. Now her friend calls the teens doctor & 20 minutes later here comes a helicopter & takes her to a university hospital. They C-section the babies both under 2-lbs & have had them hospitalized every since. So far the bill is $750,000.00 which would deliver & care for 24 for regular babies in the real world. Since the government is paying all prevention caution has been thrown to the wind & no price is to high. NOW TELL ME AGAIN YOU LYING LIBTARDS HOW WE HAVE CRAPPY COVERAGE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

I just called the family & was told that the twins will now be on SSI Disability for 2 years after they get home from the hospital in March. The mother a 19 year old deadbeat has been set up with Housing, Food Stamps, WICK, all Utilities, & other stuff. The statutory raped baby daddy is 15 years old & also a looser. My friends & I now refer to them as the Million Dollar Babies.

 

[Cecilie1200]

YouTube - "We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp

Go America!!!

What a clever way of getting the message across..Wish someone would have shown this @ Blair House yesterday.

Gosh, I am SOOO glad that yet another Johnny-Come-Lately asswipe leftist has come along to start yet ANOTHER thread on an already thoroughly-debunked and threadbare topic. God forbid you shitforbrains would bother to find out if something has already been talked to death before bringing it up as though it's a new a brilliant revelation that ONLY YOU have discovered.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Exactly Sgt...the #37 claim comes from WHO...not exactly a source you want doing your numbering ranking for you.

What?! You mean we're not desperately trying to impress a bunch of jump-up Third World jackwads who consider the Sudan the epitome in human rights that we're up to their standards in healthcare?! The devil you say!

Tell you what. When more than half the countries in the UN General Assembly don't have members of their population who drink the same water their livestock bathe in, maybe I'll start caring what they think of how we run our health care system. Maybe.

 

[Vanquish]

Thanks for no one responding with an alternative source of healthcare rankings.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Thanks for no one responding with an alternative source of healthcare rankings.

Well, the fact that there ARE no objective sources of information means that we should dismantle our entire healthcare system based on a source that we KNOW to be utterly falsified. Brilliant. I'm betting you were head of the class at your vocational tech school with a logical mind like that.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Thanks for no one responding with an alternative source of healthcare rankings.

I responded. You can not compare apples to orangutans and that is EXACTLY what WHO does. Each individual Country is free to report using what ever system they feel like using. Each country decides what live birth means, each decides what access to health care means, each decides what emergency medicine access means. On and on.

There is NO WAY to compare Countries at all.

Someone said France is ranked number 1. This is a Country where 10 THOUSAND people died in a heat wave. Including elderly in Hospitals. Because they have no air conditioning and no one could keep them cool. Not even the health care system.

 

[Some Guy]

Thanks for no one responding with an alternative source of healthcare rankings.

Don't be a dumbass. Just because an alternative isn't there doesn't make the single one correct or valid.

If i ranked each state by how "cool" it's shape was and nobody else does, would you use my list as gospel simply because there's no other list out there?

 

[csbarry]

Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.

For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.

And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

 

[Mr Natural]

There's about 200 countries in the world.

Being number 37 out of 200 is so bad all things considered.

/sarcasm

 

[Some Guy]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

So you also believe that a higher weight should be placed on consistency of care rather than quality of care?

 

[ihopehefails]

What difference does it make if we are #1 or #1000? Anyone can be #1 in this country since we have the best medical care in the world. I know some people will be #1000 but that is what happens when you live in freedom. You make the best choices for yourself and have the ability to be #1.

PS
I'm still trying to figure out where you get this number when my neigbhor has the best health insurance in the world so he is probably #1 but I don't have any so I am number #1000. How do you come up with this number of 37 for any of us?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Makes a good point..

US is #1 in Aircraft Carriers
#1 in Nuclear weapons
#1 in Tanks

#37 in healthcare.

We do not blink an eye at spending $1.5 billion a week in Afganistan and Iraq....that is PATRIOTISM

But to spend money on the medical treatment for US citizens?.....That is SOCIALISM

Get an education, get a job, quit whining...simple as that.

 

[csbarry]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

So you also believe that a higher weight should be placed on consistency of care rather than quality of care?

Actually, I should have put it another way. Instead of saying "I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate", I should have said that the rankings come from well a established entity and should be considered and reviewed. I'm inclined to believe that an organization such as the United Nations would look at each nation under the same microscope and draw a fair conclusion. I'll admit, I haven't read the report. One has to wonder, France is no third world country. Just what is it that they have that we don't?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.

For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.

And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

Really? Well, let's explore your asinine assertion that being part of the UN automatically makes one an accurate authority, shall we?

The UN Security Council, which serves as the governing body (as much as there is any governance at the UN), is made up of these members, in addition to the US itself: China, France, the Russian Federation, Austria, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Brazil, Gabon, Japan, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Turkey, and Uganda. Please tell me which of those countries you fly to to get your healthcare because they are so much better than the US.

But wait. We're not done yet. The World Health Organization is overseen by the World Health Assembly. Their Director-General is from Hong Kong, their Deputy Director-General is from Ghana. They have many people at the next level, Assistant Directors - General, and they hail from, in order: Iraq, the Dominican Republic, Canada, Somalia, France, South Africa, Japan, Russia, India, and Germany. Am I alone in seeing a theme here? Call me Ms. Suspicious, but I'm just not seeing a lot of objectivity OR democracy represented here, not to mention a lack of firshand knowledge of the United States and a telling number of lifelong careers in international politics.

I think it's your turn to tell us what, aside from having an important, official-sounding name, qualifies these people - or the UN in general, for that matter - to be accepted as accurate, unbiased sources of anything on just their own say-so.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.

For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.

And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

What matters in any assertion of a ranking is the methodology used. The methodology for this bogus number has been fisked over and over. Very little of what they used to do the ranking is based on actual health care. One of the bit arguments against this ranking is that one of the higher weighted items, "fairness" actually works against high quality medical care outcomes.

If you are going to cite a source, we need to understand your basis for your ranking. Which it seems you do not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

So you also believe that a higher weight should be placed on consistency of care rather than quality of care?

I'm guessing he also considers it a good thing that France ranks higher in some areas because their people are willing to accept lesser-quality health care overall in exchange for everyone sharing the same lesser-quality health care. Or he would, if he'd ever bothered to read the WHO report to find out what it says.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Great video, and obviously disturbing to the RW given their hysterical response. Nothing makes the RW fringe more upset than something or someone causing them to think.