Zone1 We need to Return to 1940's Values on Sex Outside Marriage. Desperately.

Catholics thrive on guilt
Especially when it comes to sex

Keep your lustful urges in check

They don’t even allow priests and nuns to have sex
How can you respect someone who is engaging in sex?
Catholics are serious about conscience formation, and we are taught to pay attention to that conscience. Catholics are okay with people not having sex, whereas it appears you are not. You can't believe that those who choose chastity should, none-the-less, be pushed into having sex anyway?
 
Catholics are serious about conscience formation, and we are taught to pay attention to that conscience. Catholics are okay with people not having sex, whereas it appears you are not. You can't believe that those who choose chastity should, none-the-less, be pushed into having sex anyway?
Oddly of hundreds of religions, only Catholics seem obsessed with their leaders not having sex
No other Christians care.

Your priest wants to be chaste?
His decision

Why force it on all?
 
Force...For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
that's beyond the basic issue of FORCE----force is a pressure exerted in DIRECTION----the resistance
part is the equal and opposite reaction. The problem in social FORCES is the questionable resistance
 
Stop repeating stuff that has already been covered. All religions believe this, plus the mountains of evidence that prove it. It's just wise policy, and would help to abate a great ill in society. There's nothing else to be said. Any further replies of yours will be ignored.
I highlighted your lie so you can correct it.
 
Force...For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
There wouldn't be any objections to Catholic priests choosing to be chaste, if they didn't substitute with little boys.

Count the Catholic priests that get caught.

Count the ones that get caught but escape justice by being hidden by the church..

Then multiply those numbers by 2? 5? 10?

And now the religious are trying to make homosexual sex in the priesthood, an immoral act! (suffer the little children)
 
The wartime conservation and recycling practices may get another look as we run short of fossil fuels and everything becomes much more expensive. Everything else may be forgotten. The baby boom starting in 1946 won't be repeated anytime soon. The birthrate will stay very low for a very long time. The casual assumption that we can just go forth and multiply doesn't work anymore. How we carefully nurture the shrinking gene pool of future generations will be a key part of new values and morals that evolve over the next few centuries. The greater importance of each child's life could draw more people into co-parenting roles. Shunning a single parent could become regarded as immoral, stupid, or illegal.
 
To each their own,.we.are free humans. G-d commamds us to go forth and mu!tiply.
When Jesus told his disciples to go forth and bear fruit in plenty was he telling them to have a lot of children? When Jesus said that he was the sower of good seed was he talking about having lots of sex?

Do you really think that the concern of God for humans is carnal in nature? What you eat, what you wear, and the sexual preferences of consenting adult bipeds? Aren't those the consuming daily concerns of tabloids?

Pervert.

As heaven is higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways, my thoughts higher than your thoughts
 
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When Jesus told his disciples to go forth and bear fruit in plenty was he telling them to have a lot of children? When Jesus said that he was the sower of good seed was he talking about having lots of sex?

Do you really think that the concern of God for humans is carnal? What you eat drink and sexual preferences?

Pervert.

As heaven is higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways, my thoughts higher than your thoughts.
Everybody on earth is here because of perversion in one form or another. It's the most basic drive of humans on par with self preservation because it is in essence an even deeper instinct than the preservation of ones own life because to multiple ensures the survival of the human species.

Genesis 1:28 – Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it
 
Everybody on earth is here because of perversion in one form or another. It's the most basic drive of humans on par with self preservation because it is in essence an even deeper instinct than the preservation of ones own life because to multiple ensures the survival of the human species.

Genesis 1:28 – Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it
When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate THEY WENT TO A CITY.

There were already plenty of people around. Be fruitful and multiply is a command to pass on what they learned. If you learned something of incalculable value about life, pass it on. Share it with others. Be fruitful and multiply.

Nothing perverse required even in the sexual attraction between adults. Perversion is born by believing it's bad.
 
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There wouldn't be any objections to Catholic priests choosing to be chaste, if they didn't substitute with little boys.

Count the Catholic priests that get caught.

Count the ones that get caught but escape justice by being hidden by the church..

Then multiply those numbers by 2? 5? 10?

And now the religious are trying to make homosexual sex in the priesthood, an immoral act! (suffer the little children)
The gay priests abusing children have pretty much been rooted out of the RCC. The leftwing public schools apparatus can’t say the same. Sex abuse is ever increasing in the public schools. They aren’t even trying to curb it
 
The gay priests abusing children have pretty much been rooted out of the RCC. The leftwing public schools apparatus can’t say the same. Sex abuse is ever increasing in the public schools. They aren’t even trying to curb it
Don't leave your kids alone with a priest.
 
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America and the world had those high moral standards through the 1940s into the first half of the 1950's. People think the 60s ushered in sexual immorality, but it really started in the late 50s.
Did you know that when two people smoke cigarettes in 1940's movies the implication was that they were having sex.
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The remarkable Disney animated feature Fantasia (1940) was slightly controversial for its depiction of bare-breasted centaurettes (without nipples) in the Pastoral Symphony segment.

Alfred Hitchcock's Best Picture-winning film Rebecca (1940) (his first American film) depicted subtle hints of affectionate lesbianism


They Drive By Night (1940) Due to the Code's restrictions on language and depictions of sexual behavior, some films resorted to using double entendres to pass the ratings board.

A conversation at a truck stop counter with sexy waitress Cassie Hartley (Ann Sheridan) was dripping with sexual overtones:

John Huston's classic film noir The Maltese Falcon (1941) had one of the more memorable entrances of a homosexual character in a film. It was also one of the first instances of an obviously 'gay' character appearing on screen.

two faced woman, The film's suggestive and immoral sexuality (adultery) and Garbo's low-cut gowns were condemned by the Legion of Decency. Reportedly, it was the first major Hollywood studio release to be condemned as such. The picture was accused of having an "immoral and un-Christian attitude toward marriage and its obligations; with impudently suggestive scenes, dialogues and situations; suggestive costumes." Marketing tauted that the "new Garbo" would appear in a bathing suit, sport a bobbed haircut, be shown skiing, and would also dance a sexy rhumba ("la chica choca"). Unwittingly, the film was advertised with the slogan:

GO GAY WITH GARBO!

Andy Hardy's Double Life (1942)

This was the thirteenth of sixteen Andy Hardy-related films.

A fashion model originally, Esther Williams was showcased in her first film in a small role as one of Mickey Rooney's love interests - Sheila Brooks.

When the college-bound freshman first met Sheila in the film's pool sequence, she was stunning in a sexy, two-piece white bathing suit. She explained that she was a psychology major doing research on "reflexes" - and she surprised him with a kiss. The two also went swimming underwater, when she swam up behind him and gave him another kiss.

During their conversation pool-side, he complimented her on her looks: "I'm not kiddin'. Honest, you're the best-looking girl I ever met in my life." He then asked for a date:

Andy: "And we can have a little huddle tonight?"
Sheila: "You mean a giraffe party?"
Andy: "Giraffe!"
Sheila: "Well, a giraffe has a long neck."


When the Hays Code was in full force, Hollywood films had to resort to metaphoric sex, imagery, and double entendres. Smoking became very sexualized in many films, such as Now, Voyager (1942).

In this one, the shared use of cigarettes served as a metaphor for the sex act, between:

  • Charlotte Vale (Bette Davis), a transformed ugly duckling and Boston spinster
  • Jerry Durrance (Paul Henreid), her suitor, a single father
Jerry often performed a seductive two cigarette trick - he placed two cigarettes in his mouth, lighted both of them, and then passed one to Charlotte.

Etc. etc.
 
Did you know that when two people smoke cigarettes in 1940's movies the implication was that they were having sex.
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The remarkable Disney animated feature Fantasia (1940) was slightly controversial for its depiction of bare-breasted centaurettes (without nipples) in the Pastoral Symphony segment.

Alfred Hitchcock's Best Picture-winning film Rebecca (1940) (his first American film) depicted subtle hints of affectionate lesbianism


They Drive By Night (1940) Due to the Code's restrictions on language and depictions of sexual behavior, some films resorted to using double entendres to pass the ratings board.

A conversation at a truck stop counter with sexy waitress Cassie Hartley (Ann Sheridan) was dripping with sexual overtones:

John Huston's classic film noir The Maltese Falcon (1941) had one of the more memorable entrances of a homosexual character in a film. It was also one of the first instances of an obviously 'gay' character appearing on screen.

two faced woman, The film's suggestive and immoral sexuality (adultery) and Garbo's low-cut gowns were condemned by the Legion of Decency. Reportedly, it was the first major Hollywood studio release to be condemned as such. The picture was accused of having an "immoral and un-Christian attitude toward marriage and its obligations; with impudently suggestive scenes, dialogues and situations; suggestive costumes." Marketing tauted that the "new Garbo" would appear in a bathing suit, sport a bobbed haircut, be shown skiing, and would also dance a sexy rhumba ("la chica choca"). Unwittingly, the film was advertised with the slogan:



Andy Hardy's Double Life (1942)

This was the thirteenth of sixteen Andy Hardy-related films.

A fashion model originally, Esther Williams was showcased in her first film in a small role as one of Mickey Rooney's love interests - Sheila Brooks.

When the college-bound freshman first met Sheila in the film's pool sequence, she was stunning in a sexy, two-piece white bathing suit. She explained that she was a psychology major doing research on "reflexes" - and she surprised him with a kiss. The two also went swimming underwater, when she swam up behind him and gave him another kiss.

During their conversation pool-side, he complimented her on her looks: "I'm not kiddin'. Honest, you're the best-looking girl I ever met in my life." He then asked for a date:




When the Hays Code was in full force, Hollywood films had to resort to metaphoric sex, imagery, and double entendres. Smoking became very sexualized in many films, such as Now, Voyager (1942).

In this one, the shared use of cigarettes served as a metaphor for the sex act, between:

  • Charlotte Vale (Bette Davis), a transformed ugly duckling and Boston spinster
  • Jerry Durrance (Paul Henreid), her suitor, a single father
Jerry often performed a seductive two cigarette trick - he placed two cigarettes in his mouth, lighted both of them, and then passed one to Charlotte.

Etc. etc.
Like I say, societal sexual morality was such that they couldn’t just come out with it. Better times for sure in that regard.
 
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