We Need to go all electric they said

[Manonthestreet]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

 

[JGalt]

I bet those Johnny Cabs in "Total Recall" were electric.

That's what I think of every time I see an electric car.

 

[MaryL]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot" for sustainable energy. In fact it may cost millions to do it and wasted a lot of energy, but hey one small step for man...

 

[DGS49]

Several Youtubers have described multi-thousand mile trips with EV's, and documented how much time and money are consumed by the charging, waiting, etc. Any long trip requires planning, and there won't be any records set, but with the mapping to charger-locating software in the cars, the delay and inconvenience are tolerable. Fuel should be about half or less what it would be in a reasonably-efficient car (Honda Accord).

People always fret about the long trips, but how many of those actually happen? My theory is that the households that own EV's very probably have at least one other vehicle in the household (an SUV?) and for that occasional cross country tour you take the other car.

One hopes that people will actually run the numbers before buying an Ev, and satisfy themselves that it makes sense. If the EV costs 8 thousand more than a comparable ICE, how long will it take to amortize that difference with fuel savings. And don't forget the States will shortly be imposing taxes on EV owners, to compensate for the fact that they dont pay gasoline taxes.

 

[JGalt]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot".

Electric powered stuff is sorta weak. We'll never escape the earth's gravity without high-explosive mixtures of God knows what volitile chemicals. And we'll never experience economic growth without cheap, easily-available fossil fuels like coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas.

I'm a staunch proponent of fossil fuels. Solar and electric-powered stuff comes under the heading of "also ran." They're kinda "gee whiz" but they just don't measure up to real energy.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Several Youtubers have described multi-thousand mile trips with EV's, and documented how much time and money are consumed by the charging, waiting, etc. Any long trip requires planning, and there won't be any records set, but with the mapping to charger-locating software in the cars, the delay and inconvenience are tolerable. Fuel should be about half or less what it would be in a reasonably-efficient car (Honda Accord).

People always fret about the long trips, but how many of those actually happen? My theory is that the households that own EV's very probably have at least one other vehicle in the household (an SUV?) and for that occasional cross country tour you take the other car.

One hopes that people will actually run the numbers before buying an Ev, and satisfy themselves that it makes sense. If the EV costs 8 thousand more than a comparable ICE, how long will it take to amortize that difference with fuel savings. And don't forget the States will shortly be imposing taxes on EV owners, to compensate for the fact that they dont pay gasoline taxes.

an hr delay....not tolerable.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Several Youtubers have described multi-thousand mile trips with EV's, and documented how much time and money are consumed by the charging, waiting, etc. Any long trip requires planning, and there won't be any records set, but with the mapping to charger-locating software in the cars, the delay and inconvenience are tolerable. Fuel should be about half or less what it would be in a reasonably-efficient car (Honda Accord).

People always fret about the long trips, but how many of those actually happen? My theory is that the households that own EV's very probably have at least one other vehicle in the household (an SUV?) and for that occasional cross country tour you take the other car.

One hopes that people will actually run the numbers before buying an Ev, and satisfy themselves that it makes sense. If the EV costs 8 thousand more than a comparable ICE, how long will it take to amortize that difference with fuel savings. And don't forget the States will shortly be imposing taxes on EV owners, to compensate for the fact that they dont pay gasoline taxes.

According to the article it cost more to "fuel"

 

[francoHFW]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot".

Electric powered stuff is sorta weak. We'll never escape the earth's gravity without high-explosive mixtures of God knows what volitile chemicals. And we'll never experience economic growth without cheap, easily-available fossil fuels like coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas.

I'm a staunch proponent of fossil fuels. Solar and electric-powered stuff comes under the heading of "also ran." They're kinda "gee whiz" but they just don't measure up to real energy.

As always, you are a brainwashed functional moron lol.

 

[MaryL]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot".

Electric powered stuff is sorta weak. We'll never escape the earth's gravity without high-explosive mixtures of God knows what volitile chemicals. And we'll never experience economic growth without cheap, easily-available fossil fuels like coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas.

I'm a staunch proponent of fossil fuels. Solar and electric-powered stuff comes under the heading of "also ran." They're kinda "gee whiz" but they just don't measure up to real energy.

Solar Impulse was rather impressive. Any way you slice it. André Borschberg was in every way an amazing pilot in the spirit of Lindberg. Or even Bert Picard. But the expenditure of fossil fuel and the carbon footprint just to do this proved just how impractical it is...for now, anyway. But maybe that was the point...

 

[Old Rocks]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

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[Manonthestreet]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

.

Lets no assume ......this is real world data

 

[Old Rocks]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot".

Electric powered stuff is sorta weak. We'll never escape the earth's gravity without high-explosive mixtures of God knows what volitile chemicals. And we'll never experience economic growth without cheap, easily-available fossil fuels like coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas.

I'm a staunch proponent of fossil fuels. Solar and electric-powered stuff comes under the heading of "also ran." They're kinda "gee whiz" but they just don't measure up to real energy.

Solar Impulse was rather impressive. Any way you slice it. André Borschberg was in every way an amazing pilot in the spirit of Lindberg. Or even Bert Picard. But the expenditure of fossil fuel and the carbon footprint just to do this proved just how impractical it is...for now, anyway. But maybe that was the point...

However, this is not impractical at all. And as the batteries get better and better, the range will get longer and longer, with larger aircraft and payloads.

 

[Old Rocks]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

.

Lets no assume ......this is real world data

OK, but the Tesla rate at the super charging stations is 0.28 KWh.

Supercharger Support

Learn more about Tesla Superchargers, including best practices, charging rates, payment methods and locating a Supercharger when you're on the road.

www.tesla.com

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot" for sustainable energy. In fact it may cost millions to do it and wasted a lot of energy, but hey one small step for man...

Mining lithium and tearing up bog pond ecosystems for the problem of disposing of nonrecyclable batteries en mass is not sustaining
Its an idea imposed by the same people who ignored the chemical science that destroyed the ozone. These people have no brains

 

[Manonthestreet]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

.

Lets no assume ......this is real world data

OK, but the Tesla rate at the super charging stations is 0.28 KWh.

Supercharger Support

Learn more about Tesla Superchargers, including best practices, charging rates, payment methods and locating a Supercharger when you're on the road.

www.tesla.com

You saying the guy didnt know what he paid......not to mention the cost of electricity will be going up under green new deal.

 

[Old Rocks]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

.

Lets no assume ......this is real world data

OK, but the Tesla rate at the super charging stations is 0.28 KWh.

Supercharger Support

Learn more about Tesla Superchargers, including best practices, charging rates, payment methods and locating a Supercharger when you're on the road.

www.tesla.com

You saying the guy didnt know what he paid......not to mention the cost of electricity will be going up under green new deal.

None of the cars or charging stations he was using were Teslas. Maybe you should learn to read.

 

[Manonthestreet]

A quick primer on how much extra time and money its gonna take. Prolly wouldnt plan a roadtrip with one.
Electric car driver discovers fast charge costs more than gas (wnd.com) [Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Energy.]

What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The long-range version of the Model 3 has a 75 kWh battery pack with a 322 mile range. If we still assume the average national electric pricing of 13 cents per kWh and a charging efficiency of 85%, then a full charge will cost $11.47. This is $3.60 per 100 miles of mixed city and freeway driving, or 3.6 cents per mile. This is almost 80% less than the cost per mile to drive the most popular gas-powered cars, which is approximately 15 cents per mile.

While these savings are impressive, most new electric car buyers have realized that there is an even cheaper way to charge their Tesla: using home solar panels.

The cost of charging a Tesla—and how it compares to gas vehicles

The costs to charge a Tesla for Model 3, Model X & Model S, and using a solar-powered vs Level 2 charging station and v's ICE cars

www.solarreviews.com

.

Lets no assume ......this is real world data

OK, but the Tesla rate at the super charging stations is 0.28 KWh.

Supercharger Support

Learn more about Tesla Superchargers, including best practices, charging rates, payment methods and locating a Supercharger when you're on the road.

www.tesla.com

You saying the guy didnt know what he paid......not to mention the cost of electricity will be going up under green new deal.

None of the cars or charging stations he was using were Teslas. Maybe you should learn to read.

and we wont all be driving teslas dumbass

 

[Old Rocks]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot" for sustainable energy. In fact it may cost millions to do it and wasted a lot of energy, but hey one small step for man...

Mining lithium and tearing up bog pond ecosystems for the problem of disposing of nonrecyclable batteries en mass is not sustaining
Its an idea imposed by the same people who ignored the chemical science that destroyed the ozone. These people have no brains

First of all, almost everything used in wind turbines, batteries, and solar panels is recyclable. And the mining for lithium is far less damaging than mining coal or fracking for gas.

 

[Old Rocks]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot".

Electric powered stuff is sorta weak. We'll never escape the earth's gravity without high-explosive mixtures of God knows what volitile chemicals. And we'll never experience economic growth without cheap, easily-available fossil fuels like coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas.

I'm a staunch proponent of fossil fuels. Solar and electric-powered stuff comes under the heading of "also ran." They're kinda "gee whiz" but they just don't measure up to real energy.

I bet you are a staunch proponent of horse drawn wagons for commerce, also.

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

(Hiss, boo) I just watched this PBS documentary on electric plane circumnavigating the earth it was rather fascinating...(solar impulse). Please don't mock these guys, it basically what they call a "moonshot" for sustainable energy. In fact it may cost millions to do it and wasted a lot of energy, but hey one small step for man...

Mining lithium and tearing up bog pond ecosystems for the problem of disposing of nonrecyclable batteries en mass is not sustaining
Its an idea imposed by the same people who ignored the chemical science that destroyed the ozone. These people have no brains

First of all, almost everything used in wind turbines, batteries, and solar panels is recyclable. And the mining for lithium is far less damaging than mining coal or fracking for gas.

The mining for lithium destroys ecosystems of ponds that most people would consider to be insignificant because its just a bog. But that shows ignorance by those who dont understand the importance of the interconnected dependence of ecosystems. Even the bacterial bottoms of bogs contribute to the environment
Like the effects of chloroflourocarbons. Its only insignificant till you roll forwards with it and then find the true result. Some people dont get biology and ecosystems. All they understand is politics and the distribution of money.
Electric batteries are not the long term answer.