We may need a revolution or secession

[Marener]

the intent was that States not citizens elected the Senators as a means to have the Upper house represent the states not the population.

Sure. Because the original privileged ruling elites didn't want us governing ourselves.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sure. Because the original privileged ruling elites didn't want us governing ourselves.

It is still democracy if the elected Officials you elect pick the Senators for the State. Claiming otherwise is beyond stupid. By the way did you know until 1824 half the States had no election for President and even in 1860 South Carolina still didn't have an election for President?

 

[Marener]

It is still democracy if the elected Officials you elect pick the Senators for the State. Claiming otherwise is beyond stupid. By the way did you know until 1824 half the States had no election for President and even in 1860 South Carolina still didn't have an election for President?

Is it still democracy if those elected officials represent a small fraction of the state due to gerrymandering?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Is it still democracy if those elected officials represent a small fraction of the state due to gerrymandering?

they represent a majority if they were elected gerrymandering doesn't cut out votes it simply groups majorities for the party doing it and guess what RETARD the worst cases of Gerrymandering are all democrat party created.

 

[Delldude]

So save democracy by ending democracy.

We aren't a democracy, left wants it that way though.

 

[Marener]

they represent a majority if they were elected gerrymandering doesn't cut out votes it simply groups majorities for the party doing it and guess what RETARD the worst cases of Gerrymandering are all democrat party created.

Gerrymandered states can have a majority control of a legislature without winning a majority of votes from the electorate.

The worst gerrymandered state is North Carolina. By Republicans.

 

[Marener]

We aren't a democracy, left wants it that way though.

Great. So kicking Trump off the ballot doesn’t matter.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Gerrymandered states can have a majority control of a legislature without winning a majority of votes from the electorate.

The worst gerrymandered state is North Carolina. By Republicans.

wrong the number of voters in a district is set and gerrymandering can't change that number.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Sadly, those may be the only options to save this country as a free democratic republic. I don't want either, but neither did the partiots of 1776. Should history repeat itself?

a thorough and permanent house cleaning will do...revolution??...lol.while streaming 24/7////lol

 

[Marener]

wrong the number of voters in a district is set and gerrymandering can't change that number.

Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact of what I said. A party can win control of the legislature with a minority of state wide votes.

 

[otto105]

Sadly, those may be the only options to save this country as a free democratic republic. I don't want either, but neither did the partiots of 1776. Should history repeat itself?

Our 1776 government didn’t install a fascist government. To replace British rule.

Why are you advocating for one?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes, but that doesn’t change the fact of what I said. A party can win control of the legislature with a minority of state wide votes.

And just because one district goes all in for one party doesn't negate the rest of the districts. Just like the Electoral college. Just because California and New York vote mostly for one-person doesn't negate the other 48 states votes.

 

[Marener]

And just because one district goes all in for one party doesn't negate the rest of the districts. Just like the Electoral college. Just because California and New York vote mostly for one-person doesn't negate the other 48 states votes.

Of course it doesn't negate other districts, it just negates the will of the electorate.

 

[Billo_Really]

Sadly, those may be the only options to save this country as a free democratic republic. I don't want either, but neither did the partiots of 1776. Should history repeat itself?

You are so full of shit! There will be no democracy if Trump becomes a dictator.

 

[Marener]

guess what RETARD the worst cases of Gerrymandering are all democrat party created.

9 out of 10 worst gerrymandered states are Republican.



You are a goddamn moron.

 

[Dadoalex]

could be repeated in 2025, if the choice is civil war or secession, I choose secessiion

Go ahead.
Fly to Paris then take turkish Air to Moscow.
From there you can head over to Ukraine in a Russian uniform.

 

[Zincwarrior]

they represent a majority if they were elected gerrymandering doesn't cut out votes it simply groups majorities for the party doing it and guess what RETARD the worst cases of Gerrymandering are all democrat party created.

Its not needed and antidemocratic.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Of course it doesn't negate other districts, it just negates the will of the electorate.

One district no matter if 100 percent for one candidate does not negate the over 50 percent of all the others one or two states or one or two districts do not get to vote in someone ignoring the WILL of the rest of the Country or State.

 

[Delldude]

Great. So kicking Trump off the ballot doesn’t matter.

Take a look around on media tonight......no opinion yet and the left is in full meltdown mode.

 

[Pete7469]

So save democracy by ending democracy.

When people ask you:

How stupid can you be?

IT'S NOT A CHALLENGE.