We Knew this was coming.

[AmyNation]

When I started the Physical Test was 5 events, and women were not in the regular Army, they were still WACS (Womens Army Corps)

Run Dodge and Jump
Inverted crawl
Horizontal ladder
Pushups
1 Mile run.

You had no more than 2 or 3 minutes in between events less if there was a small number being tested.

When I retired the test was 3 events and women had a lower standard than men.

2 minutes of sit ups
2 minutes of push ups
2 mile run.......

I have heard they are looking at sprints more than distance running, and that actually makes some sense.

In basic, it makes sense for men and women to have different physical standards. What is healthily and fit for a man is different than what is fit and healthily for a woman.

Sure. But is it healthy for a 98 lb woman to carry the same 80 lbs of equipment that a 110 lb man? Do you honestly think a situation like that won't impact combat efficiency? And if she isn't carrying the same basic issue, how is that 'fair'?

The army is reviewing the combat positions and will make their recommendations on what should be open to women and what shouldn't, and I've already stated, I think the tests should be based on what youll need in the MOS and nothing else.

Will there be women who don't qualify? Sure. But I'm 100% confident that there will be women who can and will qualify.

 

[High_Gravity]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

it is always wrong to lower any standard to allow those who cant pass for what ever reason, to pass.

the ideal is (or should be) to raise the bar not lower it.

in my opinion if the women want to do what the men are doing, then there should be no issue for them to do just that... pass the SAME tests, come up to the same standards as the men.

The Israelis have the same standards across the board for their men and women, how come we can't match that? their women are pretty bad ass too.

 

[Mad Scientist]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

Can you imagine if KFC Ollie (Still Eating) "served" in say, 1946?:

"I can't believe the Army is gonna' integrate them N*ggers into the Military! I'm glad I'm gettin; out!

Good to see he believes in "Equal Rights", "Civil Rights" and that "All Men are Created Equal".

 

[SFC Ollie]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

Can you imagine if KFC Ollie (Still Eating) "served" in say, 1946?:

"I can't believe the Army is gonna' integrate them N*ggers into the Military! I'm glad I'm gettin; out!

Good to see he believes in "Equal Rights", "Civil Rights" and that "All Men are Created Equal".

Have you always had this problem? Please explain to us what the relevance of your childish post has to do with our military weakening its standards for combat arms MOS's. Or is that too much for your itty bitty brain to comprehend?

 

[Bleipriester]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

 

[SFC Ollie]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Now that is a good question.... Many women wouldn't want to go for it because they know they couldn't make it. Just as i knew I'd never make it through the Ranger Course.
My Grandson is infantry soon to deploy to Afghanistan. I need to ask him what he thinks about it.... I know he always comments about how great he feels after a road march or a 7 mile run.

 

[Bleipriester]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Now that is a good question.... Many women wouldn't want to go for it because they know they couldn't make it. Just as i knew I'd never make it through the Ranger Course.
My Grandson is infantry soon to deploy to Afghanistan. I need to ask him what he thinks about it.... I know he always comments about how great he feels after a road march or a 7 mile run.

A 7 mile run is a good thing for those who can do it. Makes feel free and they really need it after some months but it doens´t confront him with the Taliban and its suicide attacks. I am sure people feel great after surviving such an attack but in an outright other way...

 

[numan]

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Women did pretty well in the Soviet Army in World War II.

As I recall, a Russian woman soldier was the first one into Hitler's Bunker.
.

 

[numan]

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Don't worry. The US government will always find a way to trick stupid, brainwashed rednecks into joining their corrupt army.

Then they will poison their bodies with depleted uranium and chemicals and injections, and destroy their brains and nervous systems with brainwashing, terror, stress and the effects of committing war crimes.

Then the government will renege on all their promises and throw their gallant veterans into the garbage like squeezed lemon peels.

What!? Do you think we Americans have a sense of Community, like the Hitler Germans?
.

 

[Bleipriester]

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Don't worry. The US government will always find a way to trick stupid, brainwashed rednecks into joining their corrupt army.

Then they will poison their bodies with depleted uranium and chemicals and injections, and destroy their brains and nervous systems with brainwashing, terror, stress and the effects of committing war crimes.

Then the government will renege on all their promises and throw their gallant veterans into the garbage like squeezed lemon peels.

What!? Do you think we Americans have a sense of Community, like the Hitler Germans?
.

I really dislike terms like "corrupt army" or "Hitler Germans".

 

[SFC Ollie]

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Don't worry. The US government will always find a way to trick stupid, brainwashed rednecks into joining their corrupt army.

Then they will poison their bodies with depleted uranium and chemicals and injections, and destroy their brains and nervous systems with brainwashing, terror, stress and the effects of committing war crimes.

Then the government will renege on all their promises and throw their gallant veterans into the garbage like squeezed lemon peels.

What!? Do you think we Americans have a sense of Community, like the Hitler Germans?
.

I really dislike terms like "corrupt army" or "Hitler Germans".

You have to excuse Numan, besides being an idiot he hates the government, at all levels.......

 

[numan]

You have to excuse Numan...he hates the government, at all levels.......

The appropriate verb would be "despise" rather than "hate".
.

 

[numan]

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

Don't worry. The US government will always find a way to trick stupid, brainwashed rednecks into joining their corrupt army.

Then they will poison their bodies with depleted uranium and chemicals and injections, and destroy their brains and nervous systems with brainwashing, terror, stress and the effects of committing war crimes.

Then the government will renege on all their promises and throw their gallant veterans into the garbage like squeezed lemon peels.

What!? Do you think we Americans have a sense of Community, like the Hitler Germans?

I really dislike terms like "corrupt army" or "Hitler Germans".

Why? I have no problem with "Bushite Americans".

And do you know anything about the American military?

"Corrupt" is by no means an adjective sufficiently strong to describe its criminality.
.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Don't worry. The US government will always find a way to trick stupid, brainwashed rednecks into joining their corrupt army.

Then they will poison their bodies with depleted uranium and chemicals and injections, and destroy their brains and nervous systems with brainwashing, terror, stress and the effects of committing war crimes.

Then the government will renege on all their promises and throw their gallant veterans into the garbage like squeezed lemon peels.

What!? Do you think we Americans have a sense of Community, like the Hitler Germans?

I really dislike terms like "corrupt army" or "Hitler Germans".

Why? I have no problem with "Bushite Americans".

And do you know anything about the American military?

"Corrupt" is by no means an adjective sufficiently strong to describe its criminality.
.

22 Years on active duty asswipe. And corrupt has nothing to do with it. You obviously know nothing.... And I mean you know nothing about anything. I'm yet to see you make an intelligent post. By the way, by attacking the military as you have done you also attack myself and all the other veterans out there. So yeah I'll take that personal.

 

[numan]

By the way, by attacking the military as you have done you also attack myself and all the other veterans out there. So yeah I'll take that personal.

I wouldn't expect anything less from you, böhmischer Gefreiter.

---certainly not judicious thought.
.

 

[SFC Ollie]

You cannot insult by calling me a private, I've heard a lot worse. I stand on my record and I don't hide who i am and what I've done.

In fact I'm rather proud to be me. Shame you can't say the same........

 

[High_Gravity]

By the way, by attacking the military as you have done you also attack myself and all the other veterans out there. So yeah I'll take that personal.

I wouldn't expect anything less from you, böhmischer Gefreiter.

---certainly not judicious thought.
.

You are a ******* moron.

 

[High_Gravity]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

I wonder if this is due to equality or a lack of volunteers.

I think its that. Lots of able bodied men just doddling around with no jobs playing X Box, they have no interest in serving.

 

[High_Gravity]

You have to excuse Numan...he hates the government, at all levels.......

The appropriate verb would be "despise" rather than "hate".
.

Than get the **** on, you ***** ass ******. Move to Somalia where they have no government.

 

[namvet]

my guess would be because women are failing the obstacle course at an alarming rate

Two female officers entered the demanding Marine Infantry Officer Course this week — only the second time in the history of the course that women have been allowed to compete to become ground combat leaders — but neither passed the grueling obstacle course on Thursday, military officials said.

The women made it through the first few days of the course.

Of the 110 students who began the course this week, 96 are still enrolled — the women were joined by 12 of their Marine brothers who also failed to complete the obstacle course entirely or could not complete it in the time allotted.

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