We have 198 people that are traitors to America and it's voting system.

[SweetSue92]

No, you racist clods claim that blacks are too stupid to get ID to vote.

Want to see a racist, just find a democrat.

C'mon westwall, we can't expect blacks to follow directions and navigate the internet!!! (HEAVY SARCASM for the liberals here geez)

 

[Mac1958]

To vote, at least, and that is what is important. Most new registration are probably at Drivers liscense and that gets you the "Real ID" I use for for getting on airplanes, as it does not seem appropriate to pull out my Concealed Carry Weapons Permit, though, that is what I use consistently for ID when I vote. I have a voter ID card, but it is useless, as it does not have a government picture, basically it shows where I vote, along with address and that I am an Independent. Independent does not matter here, either. I choose which primary (Rep or Dem) I vote in, based on either who it is important for me to vote for in the primary or who I want to vote against.

I don't think it's at all unreasonable to require some kind of solid proof that a person who is voting to be the person they claim to be. National elections are essentially a federal government franchise, and a franchise will have many across-the-board regulations to insure quality and accuracy.

And I'd bet that, if we assembled a group of reasonable Americans from across the political spectrum to figure out how to effectively do that, they could. Kinda like the way that large American businesses address challenges every freaking day.

And that, given our current condition, is where we shit the bed. We're just not willing to do that. We don't even fucking CONSIDER it. We could do that on any number of issues, but no. Okay, but that's a self-inflicted wound, as usual.

 

[scruffy]

You’re deflecting again
You take the FACT the immigrants FACTUALLY do work the fields and clean the hotels at lower wages keeping costs lower. This is Still a Fact.

And you deflect into whataboutism

Your "facts" are of no consequence.

What matters is my prices are higher.

 

[Foxfyre]

Whenever the criteria is raised for voting it always disenfranchises legal voters

Those that for various reasons cannot fulfill the new criteria

Come on now. I honestly do not believe you are that dumb. Please rethink it and give us one example in which a legal citizen voter was disenfranchised in any way by preventing illegals from voting. Or if you cannot do that, give us a reasoned argument for why non citizen migrants should be allowed to vote.

 

[scruffy]

Come on now. I honestly do not believe you are that dumb.

I do.

I believe the evidence of my eyes and ears.

Please rethink it and give us one example in which a legal citizen voter was disenfranchised in any way by preventing illegals from voting. Or if you cannot do that, give us a reasoned argument for why non citizen migrants should be allowed to vote.

Yeah. Still waiting for even ONE example.

 

[Doc7505]

The worst thing is that apportionment is determined by population (legal or not). So the fact of the matter is, places like NYC, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, Philadelphia gain more representatives in those blue shitholes and they are voted in by demofascists. This is an end run around the electoral college.

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Perhaps with a GOP majority in both Houses we can how the next census is taken.
To only include U.S. ciizens and Green Card holders.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't even understand how anyone regardless of political affiliation would be against requiring an ID to insure that each American is voting in American elections and not non American citizens.

If voting is supposed to be our holiest of American institutions then why don't they want to preserve and protect a sacred right bestowed on all Americans?

Isn't voting supposed to for citizens? Fair? Secure? And equal for all Americans? I don't understand how any politician could be against having an ID to vote.




How does requiring ID jam up anything? It makes things easier. You show your ID and you vote, that's it.






Xenophobic? It's elections in America, voted for by americans. By her logic every other person in the world should be able to vote in our elections because if some guy in Syria can't vote in our elections it's xenophobic.

Because voting is a right. I'm not opposed to ID, but I can see the argument.

 

[scruffy]

Come on now. I honestly do not believe you are that dumb. Please rethink it and give us one example in which a legal citizen voter was disenfranchised in any way by preventing illegals from voting. Or if you cannot do that, give us a reasoned argument for why non citizen migrants should be allowed to vote.

There is no reasoned argument.

It's time to call these leftards out on their bullshit.

Righties can not sit idly by while leftards destroy their world.

There is a time for all things. This is the time to fight back. And I do mean fight, if that's what it takes.

This is no time to be civil with leftards. This is the time to pound their lying stinking bullshit into the ground where it belongs.

You'll notice I've become considerably more forceful in my presentation lately. I do this everywhere, not just on message boards. I do it at work, on stage, in restaurants and bars, even at the grocery store.

No compromise, and no quarter. Leftards don't stand a chance against parents and people who work for a living. It's time to let them know we care. Righties need to accept the fight, and embrace it. Unless you want your children to grow up in a leftard world.

Remember that commies are murderers and thieves. They won't hesitate to cut your throat and steal your land. They're trying to do it the soft way right now, but it won't be long before things get harder. Be ready. Be vigilant. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Trust your eyes and ears. Keep them open.

 

[Vrenn]

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And that would be contrary to the Federal 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Because voting is a right. I'm not opposed to ID, but I can see the argument.

Gun ownership is a right also. Walk into a gun store and try and buy a firearm without valid id

 

[SweetSue92]

I don't think it's at all unreasonable to require some kind of solid proof that a person who is voting to be the person they claim to be. National elections are essentially a federal government franchise, and a franchise will have many across-the-board regulations to insure quality and accuracy.

And I'd bet that, if we assembled a group of reasonable Americans from across the political spectrum to figure out how to effectively do that, they could. Kinda like the way that large American businesses address challenges every freaking day.

And that, given our current condition, is where we shit the bed. We're just not willing to do that. We don't even fucking CONSIDER it. We could do that on any number of issues, but no. Okay, but that's a self-inflicted wound, as usual.

As if anyone forgets: this is the "reasonable American" who has been telling us we're all in a cult for the last eight years.

 

[berg80]

The bill has nothing to do with making elections more secure. They already are. It has to do with perpetuating the lie that something needs to be done to stop voter fraud.

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report​

A committee led by Michigan Republicans on Wednesday published an extraordinary debunking of voter fraud claims in the state, delivering a comprehensive rebuke to a litany of accusations about improprieties in the 2020 election and its aftermath.

The 55-page report, produced by a Michigan State Senate committee of three Republicans and one Democrat, is a systematic rebuttal to an array of false claims about the election from supporters of former President Donald J. Trump. The authors focus overwhelmingly on Michigan, but they also expose lies perpetuated about the vote-counting process in Georgia.

The report is unsparing in its criticism of those who have promoted false theories about the election. It debunks claims from Trump allies including Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow; Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former president’s lawyer; and Mr. Trump himself.

Michigan Republicans Debunk Voter Fraud Claims in Unsparing Report (Published 2021)

The report, produced by a G.O.P.-led committee in the State Senate, exposes false claims made about the 2020 election by Trump allies in Michigan and other states.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Mac1958]

As if anyone forgets: this is the "reasonable American" who has been telling us we're all in a cult for the last eight years.

Yes. One has nothing to do with the other, as much as you want it to.

I think you're in a cult. So do others from across the political spectrum.

That's my/our opinion. If you don't like my/our opinion, too bad.

 

[Resnic]

Gun ownership is a right also. Walk into a gun store and try and buy a firearm without valid id

That's only because Democrats don't want us to own guns. If they did then they would find some way for illegals to buy them willy nilly.

They would be saying "super ultra mega maga xenophobic extreme Republicans want to kill all the poor, innocent and freedom seeking migrants and they need to defend themselves against far right conservatives"

No, you racist clods claim that blacks are too stupid to get ID to vote.

Want to see a racist, just find a democrat.

I don't care what your skin color is, if you can't even manage to get a state issued ID then you shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.

No one is stopping them from getting an ID and no one is stopping them from voting. If they can't do it within a 4 year period between elections to vote then that's tough shit. You can only provide so much to someone before you say "all right you're on your own".

 

[22lcidw]

Just those undermining the Constitution, like any good American should.

#MAGALIES

It was undermined in 1913. If kept under control and people voting in common sense ways from it, we would not be in this dystopian sci fi reality we live in now. The problem is, when government is unchained, they find people to rule us to get elected and for power and money uses any government largesse to promote their agendas.

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes. One has nothing to do with the other, as much as you want it to.

I think you're in a cult. So do others from across the political spectrum.

That's my/our opinion. If you don't like my/our opinion, too bad.

You can think that and I don't care.

You can't think that about people like me--who are just Trump voters and don't follow him around--and still say we should come together and be reasonable. It's highly logically inconsistent.

 

[TrumpMAGA88]

Eh, Tennessee has require photo ID since 2011, but vote as basically continued to grow as population grows. Largest voter turnout in a Federal election, in Tennessee history, was November 3, 2020. They will accept drivers license, Military ID, Weapons Carry Permit and probably some others. This is not a big deal.

IDs are provided free to lower income citizens... you need ID to....
Open a Bank Account
Drive a car
Buy alcohol and tobacco
Apply for welfare
Rent a house
Apply for a morgage
Purchase a gun
Rent a hotel
Pick up prescriptions
Buy cold medicine


Tell me again why you shouldn't have ID to decide our nations future?

 

[Lesh]

Come on now. I honestly do not believe you are that dumb. Please rethink it and give us one example in which a legal citizen voter was disenfranchised in any way by preventing illegals from voting. Or if you cannot do that, give us a reasoned argument for why non citizen migrants should be allowed to vote.

What's So Bad About Voter ID Laws? | League of Women Voters

Voter ID laws have long been debated in the United States. While supporters argue that voter photo ID laws are necessary to prevent voter fraud and ensure the integrity of elections, reality tells a different story. Not only do these measures disproportionately impact Black, Native, elderly, and...

www.lwv.org

That’s the League of Women Voters

But you won’t care


An no. I don’t want non-citizens voting… and they don’t

 

[Independent thinker]

I don't even understand how anyone regardless of political affiliation would be against requiring an ID to insure that each American is voting in American elections and not non American citizens.

If voting is supposed to be our holiest of American institutions then why don't they want to preserve and protect a sacred right bestowed on all Americans?

Isn't voting supposed to for citizens? Fair? Secure? And equal for all Americans? I don't understand how any politician could be against having an ID to vote.




How does requiring ID jam up anything? It makes things easier. You show your ID and you vote, that's it.






Xenophobic? It's elections in America, voted for by americans. By her logic every other person in the world should be able to vote in our elections because if some guy in Syria can't vote in our elections it's xenophobic.

One person, one vote. Citizenship not required. If you're here, you get to vote. And, if you want, you can vote more than once. No one will ever notice.