"We Control America." Sharon...

[Roudy]

Roudy -

As I said earlier - it's fantastic to know that the Kurds have simply lied and lied and lied about the oppression they experienced under the Shah.

Presumably you know the famous story that Shah Jnr had the population of an entire Kurdish village blinded because the population had allegedly shown "disrespect" to his father on an earlier state visit. (I'll link this later, if I have time)

That is all lies, obviously.

The current regime in Iran is not "possibly" worse than the Shah.

Yees....bbut unfortunately, Roudy - the current regime is NOT THE SAME REGIME as that which overthrew the Shah. I haven't mentioned the current regime anywhere on this thread.

But of course - you knew that all along.

Riiiight.

 

[Saigon]

I cannot tell you how many people under the comments (mostly in Farsi) have written how regretful they are for supporting the revolution and how they would trade life under the shah versus these blood sucking inbred who took over and steered such wonderful country to the 14th century.
Yup, Saigon is right. The mullahs are possibly worse than the previous regime.[/SIZE]

Yes, I'm sure that is true, Amir.

There are stories of how under Hitler, Estonians ran to support the invading Russians, feeling they simply HAD to be better. They weren't, of course.

Under a dictatorship it must often seem like any alternative would be better than that one has and suffers under.

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

Is the current regime in Iran that of Ayahollah Khomeini?

No, it isn't - it is an entirely different regime.

Should I be surprised you didn't know that?

No, I'm not.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy, I bow to your patience. I give up. Every five year old knows that the shah didn't oppress the Kurds. They wanted independence and he wouldn't cave in. Would the US grant any state that wants to secede from the union?
Comparing the shah, an educated progressive patriotic leader who spoke several languages fluently and piloted fighter jets to these little stinky ayatollahs, mullahs and unwashed and unshaved semi Arabs who currently are in charge speaks volume of how much our
"political experts" know.......Zilch.

Amir, Fatima Saigoon, our local well traveled, studied, Middle East expert from the lunatic asylum thinks the Ayatollahs are "possibly" worse than the Shah, or to put it another way, "the jury is still out" on who was worse. True words of wisdom, you heard it here first. What do you think? Are all the Iranians inside and outside Iran wrong? Ha ha ha.

The other night I felt like listening to some old Persian songs and went on You-tube.
I cannot tell you how many people under the comments (mostly in Farsi) have written how regretful they are for supporting the revolution and how they would trade life under the shah versus these blood sucking inbred who took over and steered such wonderful country to the 14th century.
Yup, Saigon is right. The mullahs are possibly worse than the previous regime.

Come on Amir. What are the opinions of Iranians compared to the depth of knowledge and insight that Fatima Saigoon the Stormfront VIP and her Arab friends provide us? Let us just sit back and learn from this professor of history. Ha ha ha.

 

[Saigon]

Thanks to Shah Reza Pahlavi there is today a pro democracy Iranian youth movement to oust the dictator, the mullahs & the ayatollahs.

So a dictator started a pro-democracy movement?

Interesting.

Next you'll be comparing the Shah to Mother Teresa...

 

[Roudy]

Roudy -

Is the current regime in Iran that of Ayahollah Khomeini?

No, it isn't - it is an entirely different regime.

Should I be surprised you didn't know that?

No, I'm not.

No it isn't, it is ruled by Khomeini's replacement the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and his puppet Ahmadinejad. In other words the Mulllahs and Islamists are totally in charge. You are more stupid and ignorant than I thought.

 

[Roudy]

Thanks to Shah Reza Pahlavi there is today a pro democracy Iranian youth movement to oust the dictator, the mullahs & the ayatollahs.

So a dictator started a pro-democracy movement?

Interesting.

Next you'll be comparing the Shah to Mother Teresa...

He's talking about the son who is currently living in exile, that is promoting a constitutional monarchy, like the UK, you thick headed moron. Those Arab comic books you read didn't tell you that did they? What a numbskull. Ha ha ha.

 

[amir]

Really, you ******* idiot? Why don't you ask some Iranians and find out who was more brutal, barbaric, and backward, the Shah, or these Islamic animals? Do you have any idea how many people have been rounded up, murdered, tortured by these Islamic animals? Living under the Shah was like a good dream for the Iranians that are currently living this nightmare. You are one of the most ignorant idiots I have met in my entire life. YOU ARE A KNOW NOTHING PIECE OF SHIT TERRORIST WORSHIPPER.

***
I was avoiding to take part on this repetitive, beaten to death post by Pbel who seems to have a pile of discredited garbage in his archive and every so often honors us by sharing the same old trash, Roudy, but reading Saigon's comment convinced me to write.
Proof that the Internet (or even living as an outsider among the natives) is not a substitute for knowledge.
Yes, the shah was amongst the most brutal dictators, and yes SAVAK was worse than SAVAMA (or Pasdaran, Basiji, revolutionary guard thugs)!
What do I know. I was just a little religious minority kept away from what was happening around me.
These know nothing dime a dozen self proclaimed political analysts have no clue that the shah pardoned anyone attempted his would be assassination. He only punished those convicted of treason AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY WATCHED THE COURT PROCEEDING ON NATIONAL TV.
Yeah, I remember all the whippings stoning and public hangings.
This morons don't know under the shah men and women became equal, workers became shareholders in the factories they worked. Contiguous diseases were eradicated, malaria that is now rampant became the thing of the past, health and education were free and you could leave the country with everything you owned without having to explain anything to the regime.
And unlike Bashir Assad, he left his beloved country rather than cling to power and cause a bloodshed.
Who died and made these pests experts!

For Amir:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_AQXui1kCI]Shah of Iran, The Fall of the Great Civilisation by Ayatollah's lies - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks a lot, Roudy. I doubt if anyone took time to watch the whole thing but it was nothing but the truth.

 

[Roudy]

***
I was avoiding to take part on this repetitive, beaten to death post by Pbel who seems to have a pile of discredited garbage in his archive and every so often honors us by sharing the same old trash, Roudy, but reading Saigon's comment convinced me to write.
Proof that the Internet (or even living as an outsider among the natives) is not a substitute for knowledge.
Yes, the shah was amongst the most brutal dictators, and yes SAVAK was worse than SAVAMA (or Pasdaran, Basiji, revolutionary guard thugs)!
What do I know. I was just a little religious minority kept away from what was happening around me.
These know nothing dime a dozen self proclaimed political analysts have no clue that the shah pardoned anyone attempted his would be assassination. He only punished those convicted of treason AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY WATCHED THE COURT PROCEEDING ON NATIONAL TV.
Yeah, I remember all the whippings stoning and public hangings.
This morons don't know under the shah men and women became equal, workers became shareholders in the factories they worked. Contiguous diseases were eradicated, malaria that is now rampant became the thing of the past, health and education were free and you could leave the country with everything you owned without having to explain anything to the regime.
And unlike Bashir Assad, he left his beloved country rather than cling to power and cause a bloodshed.
Who died and made these pests experts!

For Amir:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_AQXui1kCI]Shah of Iran, The Fall of the Great Civilisation by Ayatollah's lies - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks a lot, Roudy. I doubt if anyone took time to watch the whole thing but it was nothing but the truth.

There are many like it on YouTube. You're welcome. What i liked about this one was it also explained how the West plotted his removal by planting the seed for the revolution, because he would no longer tow the line.

 

[Saigon]

No it isn't, it is ruled by Khomeini's replacement the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and his puppet Ahmadinejad. In other words the Mulllahs and Islamists are totally in charge. You are more stupid and ignorant than I thought.

And good on you for Googling, Roudy - you can learn a lot from google.

The thing one has to understand, though, is that under Khomeini, the Ayshollah was effectively also the President.

But more recently Iran has had several President - Rafsanjani, Khatami - who have both ben relatively moderate.

It is only more recently Iran has swung back to the extremism of Ahmadinejad.

Saying that the regime today is the same as which replaced Khomeini is like saying Obama is the same as the government which replaced Reagan.


btw. Do check out the books I linked earlier. They are both fantastic.

 

[Saigon]

Thanks to Shah Reza Pahlavi there is today a pro democracy Iranian youth movement to oust the dictator, the mullahs & the ayatollahs.

So a dictator started a pro-democracy movement?

Interesting.

Next you'll be comparing the Shah to Mother Teresa...

He's talking about the son who is currently living in exile, that is promoting a constitutional monarchy, like the UK, you thick headed moron. Those Arab comic books you read didn't tell you that did they? What a numbskull. Ha ha ha.

The son is not a Shah.

 

[amir]

Iran - Before and After 1979 - YouTube

This is so painfully true, Roudy.
The cities were sparkling under the shah. Boys and girls wearing fashionable clothes, competed globally with their foreign counterpart, without the fear of being grabbed by some thugs for "immodesty".
even the dreaded traffic motor cyclist officers had class, let alone highly decorated military officers.

 

[Saigon]

Iran - Before and After 1979 - YouTube

This is so painfully true, Roudy.
The cities were sparkling under the shah. Boys and girls wearing fashionable clothes, competed globally with their foreign counterpart, without the fear of being grabbed by some thugs for "immodesty".
even the dreaded traffic motor cyclist officers had class, let alone highly decorated military officers.

I still think there is a lot of hope for Iran, yet, Amir - and I hope you do too.

You have a relatively highly education population, I understand, and a very wealthy and influential community in the diaspora who could reinvent Iran the way Armenia has been reinvented by its exiles these past years.

In fact, I would say there is a greater chance of Iran being a genuine democracy in 20 years than there is in Iraq or Afghanistan, because I think Iran has stronger roots in such concepts.

 

[Roudy]

No it isn't, it is ruled by Khomeini's replacement the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and his puppet Ahmadinejad. In other words the Mulllahs and Islamists are totally in charge. You are more stupid and ignorant than I thought.

And good on you for Googling, Roudy - you can learn a lot from google.

The thing one has to understand, though, is that under Khomeini, the Ayshollah was effectively also the President.

But more recently Iran has had several President - Rafsanjani, Khatami - who have both ben relatively moderate.

It is only more recently Iran has swung back to the extremism of Ahmadinejad.

Saying that the regime today is the same as which replaced Khomeini is like saying Obama is the same as the government which replaced Reagan.


btw. Do check out the books I linked earlier. They are both fantastic.

I didn't have to google it moron. Again you are wrong. There has always been a Supreme Leader and ruling Mullahs, even during Khatami and Rafsanjani both Mullahs (clerics) themselves. Not to mention they stole billions of their country's wealth before being ousted. At some point I am going to have to charge you for this education.

 

[Saigon]

I didn't have to google it moron. .

From the guy who compared the Shah with Mother Teresa, I dare say you had to Google Iran to find out it was a country, didn't you?!

 

[Roudy]

So a dictator started a pro-democracy movement?

Interesting.

Next you'll be comparing the Shah to Mother Teresa...

He's talking about the son who is currently living in exile, that is promoting a constitutional monarchy, like the UK, you thick headed moron. Those Arab comic books you read didn't tell you that did they? What a numbskull. Ha ha ha.

The son is not a Shah.

Wow how many times in one thread can a person be wrong? You truly have no shame do you? The Shah simply means King. When his father died he was elevated from being a prince to a King. But what am I saying, you again know more than the people of Iran who consider him the King.

http://pdmi.org/2010/02/reza-shah-the-great-رضا-شاه-بزرگ/

 

[Saigon]

Wow how many times in one thread can a person be wrong? You truly have no shame do you? The Shah simply means King. When his father died he was elevated from being a prince to a King. But what am I saying, you again know more than the people of Iran who consider him the King.

Prince Reza Pahlavi (Persian: رضا پهلوی*, born 31 October 1960) is the last crown prince of the former...

Reza Pahlavi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are days when I SWEAR you do this stuff on purpose...

 

[ima]

I'd rather be ruled by the Shah then Ariel Sharon.

 

[Saigon]

I'd rather be ruled by the Shah then Ariel Sharon.

Ha! I'm not sure you would say that if you were Kurdish...or a democrat....particularly as the Shah was an infamous anti-semite...he was often considered a bit of a closet Nazi, actually. Roudy forgot to mention that.

 

[Roudy]

I didn't have to google it moron. .

From the guy who compared the Shah with Mother Teresa, I dare say you had to Google Iran to find out it was a country, didn't you?!

Another misrepresentation and lie. I said comparing the Shah to these Islamists is like comparing Mother Teresa to Charles Manson. I think that would be the opinion of vast majority of Iranians both inside and outside of Iran.

What is the operating time for your escort service for Arabs? Don't you have any clients today?