We can't afford to get it wrong..........again.

[berg80]

I didn't say them...I said YOU.

Yes, but I'm repeating what the experts are saying. Surely you aren't too stupid to realize that, are you?

The experts told you mask were ineffective and you shouldn't wear one...did you believe them?

People are racing to buy face masks amid the coronavirus outbreak, but they probably won't protect you from illness

Wearing a mask won't protect the average person from the coronavirus as well as washing hands and avoiding contact with anyone who could be infected.

www.businessinsider.com

Use of Cloth Face Coverings to Help Slow the Spread of COVID-19

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Missourian]

Families groups are together

Geeesh, so that's what desperation looks like. Claiming you can tell they are family members! Wow.

Yeah...common sense and critical thinking skills are not tools in a liberals mental toolkit anymore...so I completely understand your shock.

 

[berg80]

The number of ACTUAL cases is far above that, maybe 100 times that, or 74 million.

Your evidence please.

 

[berg80]

Yeah...common sense and critical thinking skills

If you possessed either of those you would have stopped believing Trump's lies years ago.

 

[Polishprince]

P.S.- CNN is bullshit. If they reported the sky was blue, I'd go outside to double check.

Of course you would. Because you've been conditioned to believe a pathological liar like a Pavlovian dog.

CNN has repeated lie after lie. The carnage they predicted from COVID 19 hasn't been anywhere near close. They predicted millions of deaths. BTW, nothing new with that, the guests on Oprah and other leading gabfests predicted millions of aids deaths in the 1980's in a bid to alarm the public. CNN doesn't have credibility, that's why they are acknowledged as the Fake News leader

 

[CowboyTed]

If trump wasn’t president you would probably have us line up at the airport to hug asians lol

You guy have open borders .. democrats aren’t an option in 2020

And you would probably be wrong...

Sorry but the pro open without science, are just lets sacrifice grandma for money....

 

[Missourian]

Of course you would. Because you've been conditioned to believe a pathological liar like a Pavlovian dog.

Once again it's my damned lying eyes deceiving me.

CNN reports Russian Collusion for the years...hoax.

CNN reports "the walls are closing in"...hoax.

CNN reports quid pro quo...hoax.

CNN reports Chinese Press Release word for word as fact... propaganda.

CNN reports Trump called Wuhan Virus a hoax...lie.

CNN reports Trump refuses to help democrat governors...lie.

CNN reports Trump won't talk to democrat governors...fake news.

These are just of the top of my head...

Need I continue?

 

[CowboyTed]

P.S.- CNN is bullshit. If they reported the sky was blue, I'd go outside to double check.

Of course you would. Because you've been conditioned to believe a pathological liar like a Pavlovian dog.

CNN has repeated lie after lie. The carnage they predicted from COVID 19 hasn't been anywhere near close. They predicted millions of deaths. BTW, nothing new with that, the guests on Oprah and other leading gabfests predicted millions of aids deaths in the 1980's in a bid to alarm the public. CNN doesn't have credibility, that's why they are acknowledged as the Fake News leader

Please give us evidence...

 

[Polishprince]

The number of ACTUAL cases is far above that, maybe 100 times that, or 74 million.

Your evidence please.

Anti-body tests being done in Santa Clara , California indicate a far greater number of Americans in that county were infected that the official stats indicate. The Great American, Sean Hannity was talking about this all last week.

 

[OldLady]

I guess all we can do is wait and see what happens. People in Berg's picture seem to be aware and distancing. It would be even better if they weren't there at all, especially since the numbers I just looked up on Covid in Florida are not a rosy picture. The graph Missourian put up shows WAY too many cases still; they've got over 3,000 people in the hospital with COVID right now. That many new daily cases does not show a state where the Virus is dying out. At all.

Not being from Florida, I don't know what county Jacksonville is in. If it is an area with low numbers of cases, maybe it's okay. Maine is taking a sterner approach. Although we've had fewer than 1,000 cases total and many counties have cases in the single digits, Acadia Park (in a county with no community transmission) has just extended its closure 'til June 1st. We don't want the tourists coming here and bringing more of the disease.

 

[CowboyTed]

Of course you would. Because you've been conditioned to believe a pathological liar like a Pavlovian dog.

Once again it's my damned lying eyes deceiving me.

CNN reports Russian Collusion for the years...hoax.

CNN reports "the walls are closing in"...hoax.

CNN reports quid pro quo...hoax.

CNN reports Chinese Press Release word for word as fact...hoax.

CNN reports Trump called Wuhan Virus a hoax...lie.

CNN reports Trump refuses to help democrat governors...lie.

CNN reports Trump won't talk to democrat governors...fake news.

Need I continue?

Please give some evidence of your assertions...

 

[Lesh]

CNN has repeated lie after lie. The carnage they predicted from COVID 19 hasn't been anywhere near close. They predicted millions of deaths.

They did NOT. Stop lying.

They repeated what the WHITE HOUSE said and it was NOT what you claim.

Millions of deaths IF WE DON'T ISOLATE...

 

[Missourian]

Please give some evidence of your assertions...

I just did.

 

[Fueri]

..it proves we can go back to work and the virus was over hyped

We have over 700K cases in the US. Even for a Trump cultist who resists acknowledging objective facts your assertion is a shockingly ignorant denial of reality.

One can only hazard a guess of what that number would be if people followed your advice. Probably over 4M.

It's likely more than 4M already. We're lucky if we've actually diagnosed 10% of the cases and it's likely well south of that. Some estimates have it as low as 1.6%.

Let's look at it with 10% though, just for argument's sake. That puts the actual cases at 7,127,200 by today's numbers.

At the 1.6% number it's 44,393,000

Epidemiologist were saying early on that we were probably seeing 1 in 50 if we were lucky, or 2% as we had very little testing capability. Given that the testing has ramped up somewhat since then we can expect that number to be better, but those early cases were never diagnosed, and many still aren't. In Illinois you still need to go to a doctor if you're sick and he needs to issue a note to go to a test facility, so we still are not getting many, which never go to the doctor, as their symptoms are mild, which is actually the majority of cases.

Very little doubt we're in the millions already....

 

[Missourian]

I just looked up on Covid in Florida are not a rosy picture. The graph Missourian put up shows WAY too many cases still; they've got over 3,000 people in the hospital with COVID right now.

If you don't mind, where did the 3,000 in hospital come from.

The information I have says at peak resources on the 14th of April Florida only had 1,535 hospital beds being used for Wuhan Virus patients.

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

covid19.healthdata.org

 

[Polishprince]

..it proves we can go back to work and the virus was over hyped

We have over 700K cases in the US. Even for a Trump cultist who resists acknowledging objective facts your assertion is a shockingly ignorant denial of reality.

One can only hazard a guess of what that number would be if people followed your advice. Probably over 4M.

It's likely more than 4M already. We're lucky if we've actually diagnosed 10% of the cases and it's likely well south of that. Some estimates have it as low as 1.6%.

Let's look at it with 10% though, just for argument's sake. That puts the actual cases at 7,127,200 by today's numbers.

At the 1.6% number it's 44,393,000

Epidemiologist were saying early on that we were probably seeing 1 in 50 if we were lucky, or 2% as we had very little testing capability. Given that the testing has ramped up somewhat since then we can expect that number to be better, but those early cases were never diagnosed, and many still aren't. In Illinois you still need to go to a doctor if you're sick and he needs to issue a note to go to a test facility, so we still are not getting many, which never go to the doctor, as their symptoms are mild, which is actually the majority of cases.

Very little doubt we're in the millions already....

Even if someone goes to the doctor, it doesn't mean they will be tested to confirm COVID19. The Trump cure of hydroxychloroquine and zinc is sufficiently safe and inexpensive that it can be prescribed for merely "suspected" cases.

 

[OldLady]

If you don't mind, where did the 3,000 in hospital come from.

The information I have says at peak resources on the 14th of April Florida only had 1,535 hospital beds being used for Wuhan Virus patients.

My bad. Total about 3,500 hospitalizations. Some have no doubt been released. Or died.
If you look at the graph of new cases, though, Missourian, it doesn't seem to show the two-weeks past peak that you cited.

Today:

Coronavirus in Florida updates: Number of cases exceeds 25,400; deaths at 748

A total of 8 new deaths were announced by the state Department of Health Saturday evening, upping statewide fatalities to 748.

www.floridatoday.com

April 16:
Hospitalizations statewide continue to tick up, with approximately 3,249 reported as having been hospitalized for coronavirus. According to the Florida Department of Health, that number may not accurately represent the number of COVID-19 patients currently in the hospital, as some have been released.

Coronavirus in Florida updates: Deaths top 600 following deadliest two days on record

Statewide, the Florida Department of Health reported 43 new coronavirus deaths on Wednesday, representing a 7.5% single-day growth as the death toll builds to a total of 614.

www.tcpalm.com

 

[kyzr]

I'm not surprised they are again putting their economy first.

That's my point. By re-opening their economy too soon they are putting idiocy first and the economy last.

You channeling Biden?

 

[Missourian]

My bad. Total about 3,500 hospitalizations. Some have no doubt been released. Or died.
If you look at the graph of new cases, though, Missourian, it doesn't seem to show the two-weeks past peak that you cited.

No sweat... thanks for the link.

 

[Fueri]

..it proves we can go back to work and the virus was over hyped

We have over 700K cases in the US. Even for a Trump cultist who resists acknowledging objective facts your assertion is a shockingly ignorant denial of reality.

One can only hazard a guess of what that number would be if people followed your advice. Probably over 4M.

It's likely more than 4M already. We're lucky if we've actually diagnosed 10% of the cases and it's likely well south of that. Some estimates have it as low as 1.6%.

Let's look at it with 10% though, just for argument's sake. That puts the actual cases at 7,127,200 by today's numbers.

At the 1.6% number it's 44,393,000

Epidemiologist were saying early on that we were probably seeing 1 in 50 if we were lucky, or 2% as we had very little testing capability. Given that the testing has ramped up somewhat since then we can expect that number to be better, but those early cases were never diagnosed, and many still aren't. In Illinois you still need to go to a doctor if you're sick and he needs to issue a note to go to a test facility, so we still are not getting many, which never go to the doctor, as their symptoms are mild, which is actually the majority of cases.

Very little doubt we're in the millions already....

Even if someone goes to the doctor, it doesn't mean they will be tested to confirm COVID19. The Trump cure of hydroxychloroquine and zinc is sufficiently safe and inexpensive that it can be prescribed for merely "suspected" cases.

Yep.

We're seeing tip of the iceberg in terms of actual infections. Little doubt.