Examining the magnitude of trump's utter failure in responding to COVID

[berg80]

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You match up perfectly with the attributes listed on the box. It's just that you behave that way in the fruitless attempt to defend Don for all things. Like his failure to competently respond to COVID.

 

[berg80]

Kamala Harris' campaign is floundering...you're desperate...and you're back to smearing Trump over Covid! What else is new?

Actually, the US/Canada comparison just came to my attention yesterday during a speech Obama gave. I thought is was worth pointing out. But I can see I struck a nerve.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The same people wanting to pin COVID spread on Trump believed COVID was all due to a bat at an open air market in China. These same people lost their shit over the notion of 50-100 people gathering for a church service yet had no problem with thousands of people side by side for a social justice riot in a US City.

 

[Crepitus]

The U.S. Failed Miserably on COVID-19. Canada Shows It Didn’t Have to Be That Way​

No country is more similar to the U.S. than Canada, whose economy and culture are closely intertwined with our own. Yet faced with a life-threatening pandemic of historic proportions, Canada showed far greater success in protecting the lives of its people than the U.S. How are we to understand Canada’s superior performance and the disastrous performance of our own country, which has the highest per capita death rate (3023 per one million, compared to Canada’s 1071) of any wealthy democratic country?

In comparing the two countries, the starting point must be the different response at the highest levels of government. In Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stated in March 2020, “I’m going to make sure that we continue to follow all the recommendations of public health officers particularly around stay-at-home whenever possible and self-isolation and social distancing”. This message was reinforced by Dr. Teresa Tam, Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, who in March delivered a message urging solidarity, declaring “We need to act now, and act together.”

In the U.S., President Trump in striking contrast declared that he would not be wearing a mask, saying “I don’t think I will be doing it…I just don’t see it”. And instead of reinforcing the messages of Dr. Anthony Fauci and other leading public health officials, Trump actively undermined them, declaring in reference to stay-at-home orders in some states, “I think elements of what they’ve done are just too tough.” Not content with undercutting his top public health advisers, President Trump further undermined public confidence in science by suggesting “cures” for COVID-19, including at one point ingesting bleach and taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that research confirmed had no efficacy as a COVD-19 treatment.

The U.S. Failed Miserably on COVID-19. Canada Shows It Didn't Have to Be That Way

Canada has done a much better job than the U.S. on COVID-19.

time.com

I suppose I could include links to trump saying early on that COVID was under control or how he didn't want to let people off a cruise ship because it would make the US's COVID case number go up. I don't think it's necessary. We all know what he said.

646,970 lives.

This is the number of Americans who would be alive today if the United States had the same per capita death rate from COVID-19 as our northern neighbor, Canada.

He bears the responsibility for our failed COVID response. Full stop.

tRump did kinda do us a favor though, if you look at ot the right way. RWNJs died at rates 2-3 time what normal people did.

 

[luiza]

President Trump further undermined public confidence in science by suggesting “cures” for COVID-19, including at one point ingesting bleach and taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that ​

Pure ignorance Burger .
Probably feigned stupidity .

Hydroxychloroquine is one of the best early treatments known .
Countless research evidence .

Yes, the CDC did try to Fake that by running deliberately hoax tests where they began treatment too late and used absurd dosage levels .

Get your Facts right if possible , extremist Lefty Mutant .

 

[berg80]

The same people wanting to pin COVID spread on Trump believed COVID was all due to a bat at an open air market in China.

I assume you believe the undetermined, ongoing, scientific pursuit of COVID's origin somehow makes trump's response to the pandemic better? It doesn't.

 

[Billiejeens]

tRump did kinda do us a favor though, if you look at ot the right way. RWNJs died at rates 2-3 time what normal people did.

We are a center right country
Right of center people are normal people.

Older people died
People with 4 or more comorbidities died
People who were within a year of dying anyway, statistically.
It is true that older people tend to vote Republican as they grow wiser -

for the rest of the county, it was simply a cold.

 

[Billiejeens]

I assume you believe the undetermined, ongoing, scientific pursuit of COVID's origin somehow makes trump's response to the pandemic better? It doesn't.

There was no pursuit-
Fauci and the other scientists involved knew immediately.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I assume you believe the undetermined, ongoing, scientific pursuit of COVID's origin somehow makes trump's response to the pandemic better? It doesn't.

Another response to the pandemic were Democrats who wanted to shut down businesses yet permit riots and protests in the streets. How did shutting down businesses yet permitting riots help the pandemic?

Trump was about getting businesses and jobs back as well as getting a vaccine fast tracked and bypassing Bureaucratic red tape. Trump was also about locking down the Borders; something Canada did very well. Democrats pushed back on that.

 

[LeftofLeft]

We are a center right country
Right of center people are normal people.

Older people died
People with 4 or more comorbidities died
People who were within a year of dying anyway, statistically.
It is true that older people tend to vote Republican as they grow wiser -

for the rest of the county, it was simply a cold.

The Centers for Disease Control said less than 10 percent of the deaths tied to COVID were solely because of COVID.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Actually, the US/Canada comparison just came to my attention yesterday during a speech Obama gave. I thought is was worth pointing out. But I can see I struck a nerve.

Struck a nerve? Actually, Berg...I see what you're doing as a sign of panic. The numbers are bad for Kamala and getting worse. She's working hard to retain voting blocks that Democrats historically didn't have to worry about. Young people...blacks...Hispanics...rank and file union members? She's losing them and if she loses them...she loses the election.

 

[berg80]

Another response to the pandemic were Democrats who wanted to shut down businesses yet permit riots and protests in the streets.

How telling it is that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge trump's failure. It's not an uncommon phenomenon among cultists to be incapable of finding fault with their Dear Leader.

 

[berg80]

Actually, Berg...I see what you're doing as a sign of panic.

You are free to think anything you'd like about my reason for writing the thread. I don't feel panicked, just desirous of you understanding how much of a dangerous clown the man you're going to vote for is.

 

[Billiejeens]

How telling it is that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge trump's failure. It's not an uncommon phenomenon among cultists to be incapable of finding fault with their Dear Leader.

I also can't acknowledge that it is raining outside right now.
You know why?
It is not raining out.

 

[martybegan]

Comparing Canada to American is stupid.
They have far less of a population.
Also, freedom loving Americans are far less receptive of draconian shutdowns and mandates.

A lot of the measures put in place were contradictory and lacked common sense.

If this would have been a disease with an extremely high death rate, people would have taken measures without government screwing it up.

The problem is they initially thought it had a 2%-3% mortality rate in the overall population, or even worse.

The real problem is once they discovered that wasn't the case, they were too committed politically to tone it down and target the restrictions to the sick and elderly.

That, and not suspending laws requiring nursing homes to take back their patients from hospitals. Those laws are designed to prevent nursing homes dumping patients into hospitals during normal times, not during a pandemic.

 

[LeftofLeft]

How telling it is that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge trump's failure. It's not an uncommon phenomenon among cultists to be incapable of finding fault with their Dear Leader.

Again, you are so focused on pinning US COVID failure on Trump you ignore the failures of your own party’s position and actions; and failure to act. I’ve repeatedly pointed them out to you and you ignore. Had your Party been consistent in their approach to COVID, we could talk about Trump.

How can you focus on Trump COVID failure when the Mantra of COVID was “stay home, stay safe” yet people had no problem with mass protests in the street at the height of the pandemic? Was Trump behind all of that?

 

[berg80]

Again, you are so focused on pinning US COVID failure on Trump

It's the topic of the thread. It's pertinent because.........you know.........he's running for prez. I'd rather not have a clown like Don with a track record of failure be in charge of the government again.

President Trump further undermined public confidence in science by suggesting “cures” for COVID-19, including at one point ingesting bleach and taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that research confirmed had no efficacy as a COVD-19 treatment.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Remember: Never before in the history of Mankind have HEALTHY people been quarantined in a pandemic. Fucking INSANE.

DEMOCRATS DID THAT!!!!!!!

 

[Man With A Plan]

You are free to think anything you'd like about my reason for writing the thread. I don't feel panicked, just desirous of you understanding how much of a dangerous clown the man you're going to vote for is.

I like other Americans actually have the ability to compare what we had when Trump was in office and what we've had with Biden/Harris have been in office, Berg.
When you do that...it's not even a competition. You can attempt to scare people into voting for incompetence. But you have to do that because you can't get them to vote for your agenda. They've seen it...and they know that it doesn't work!

 

[berg80]

I like other Americans actually have the ability to compare what we had when Trump was in office and what we've had with Biden/Harris have been in office, Berg.

Which is why Americans who want the country to succeed are voting for Harris. If those 600K+ more Americans who died on trump's watch while Canada had a vastly superior COVID response were alive I bet they'd be voting for Harris too.

646,970 lives.

This is the number of Americans who would be alive today if the United States had the same per capita death rate from COVID-19 as our northern neighbor, Canada.