Zone1 We are all NATURAL THEISTS with “homage to reason” unless we lock~in to or against revealed theist-ism vs anti-revelation atheist-ism

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OhPleaseJustQuit Post #18 Apr 22, 2025 …~… whutTHEYsay is one of those socks who never made any sense except in their own twisted minds, and is not capable of posting cleanly and concisely

whut I ask …~… St Ohplease, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with HiM as HIS Chosen People?

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[The Irish Ram]

^ When they chose him as our President, they all spent the rest of the day at the church asking God to direct this country's path.
As far as their faith being woven into our rights, our Declaration of Independence lays out who is responsible for our rights. They're gifted by God, Himself. They believed we were endowed by our Creator.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

ding Post #2,186 Dec 5, 2016 …~… Our Fore Fathers believed that liberty and freedom rested on virtue and morality and that virtue and morality would not be maintained with out religion.

ding Post #20 May 22, 2025 …~… I believe the God of Abraham favors anyone who practices successful behaviors

ding Post #212 Mar 25, 2024 …~… I say man's ability to know right from wrong is innate and logical.

whut I say …~… where did the 4 out of 5 white Europeans of the founding generation get their morality and virtue if they did not belong to a Christian church?

If all human beings have an innate and logical ability to know right from wrong why is there a duty to worship the God of Abraham in a church or anywhere else for that matter.

With the coming of individual mindful self consciousness in a competent human being we are all NATURAL THEISTS ; including atheists.

We come with an innate ability to pay “homage to reason” and find way to practices the successful behaviors (as Jefferson says at the top) that are compatible with order in government and obedience to the law.

Belief that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead three days later is fine if you believe it, but that belief has absolutely nothing to do with with the founding of the United States of America.

 

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[BreezeWood]

Because if so, he favored them.

some live w/ just their own narrow thoughts ...

- favoritism lives in the minds of bigots and sociopaths as their means to justify their discrimination of all else not to their liking.

found in their bibles, the desert dwellers they claim heavenly for those very purposes to justify their persecute and victimize the innocent

 

[BreezeWood]

They believed we were endowed by our Creator.

again the secular document no where endorses any desert religion for obvious reasons as why the document is even written to begin with - universal celestial beliefs as a creater than anything so bigoted as a christian bible.

 

[BackAgain]

BackAgain Post #16 Apr 22, 2025 …~… A thread so bad even the headline is gibberish.

whut I ask …~… St Backagain, do you believe the God of the One and Only Holy Book in 1763 favored the white European human beings residing to the east of the “Proclamation Line of 1763 ” to be in a nationwide-covenant relationship with HiM as HIS Chosen People?

Were you retarded in the womb and r were you just dropped on your head (repeatedly) at birth?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

he OP

 

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Were you retarded in the womb and r were you just dropped on your head (repeatedly) at birth?

Or maybe he's just racist.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Or maybe he's just racist.

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That too, like all left cultists.



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[whutTHEYsay]

*1 Black Americans are notably more likely than Americans in general to say that religion is the most important thing in their lives (28% vs. 15%), and this percentage is notably higher among Black Christians (36%).​

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Among Black Christians, 41% identify as evangelical or born-again and 59% do not. Black evangelicals (46%) are more than twice as likely as nonevangelicals (21%) to say that religion is the most important thing in their life. The majority of black evangelicals (57%) say they attend church regularly, with 19% saying they go more than once a week, 27% saying they go once a week, and 11% reporting that they go once or twice a month. Meanwhile, only 14% of Black evangelicals say they attend church just a few times a year, 17% go seldom, and 11% say they never go. By contrast, the vast majority of Black nonevangelicals (70%) say they attend either a few times a year (16%), seldom (27%), or never (27%) — compared to about three in ten (29%)say they attend more than once a week (7%), once a week (13%), or once or twice a month (9%​

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ding Post #433 Jan 23, 2020 …~… I am telling you that the overwhelming vast majority of people who lived during colonial times were Christians​

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whut I ask …~… whereas you claim St to have observed the origination of the cosmic battle between good and evil, I am wondering if​

you also observed what you claim in ( ding Post #433 Jan 23, 2020 ) I the overwhelming vast majority of people who lived during colonial times being Christians.​

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I have never seen nor have you provided one lick of data that can back you up.​

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*1 The Importance of Christianity to Black Americans | PRRI​

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The only data I have become aware of is this:​

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*1 The Importance of Christianity to Black Americans | PRRI

 

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*1 Black Americans are notably more likely than Americans in general to say that religion is the most important thing in their lives (28% vs. 15%), and this percentage is notably higher among Black Christians (36%).​

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Among Black Christians, 41% identify as evangelical or born-again and 59% do not. Black evangelicals (46%) are more than twice as likely as nonevangelicals (21%) to say that religion is the most important thing in their life. The majority of black evangelicals (57%) say they attend church regularly, with 19% saying they go more than once a week, 27% saying they go once a week, and 11% reporting that they go once or twice a month. Meanwhile, only 14% of Black evangelicals say they attend church just a few times a year, 17% go seldom, and 11% say they never go. By contrast, the vast majority of Black nonevangelicals (70%) say they attend either a few times a year (16%), seldom (27%), or never (27%) — compared to about three in ten (29%)say they attend more than once a week (7%), once a week (13%), or once or twice a month (9%​

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ding Post #433 Jan 23, 2020 …~… I am telling you that the overwhelming vast majority of people who lived during colonial times were Christians​

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whut I ask …~… whereas you claim St to have observed the origination of the cosmic battle between good and evil, I am wondering if​

you also observed what you claim in ( ding Post #433 Jan 23, 2020 ) I the overwhelming vast majority of people who lived during colonial times being Christians.​

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I have never seen nor have you provided one lick of data that can back you up.​

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*1 The Importance of Christianity to Black Americans | PRRI​

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The only data I have become aware of is this:​

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*1 The Importance of Christianity to Black Americans | PRRI

You left out this part... Alexander Solzhenitsyn describes this battle thusly, "...The humanistic way of thinking, which had proclaimed itself our guide, did not admit the existence of intrinsic evil in man, nor did it see any task higher than the attainment of happiness on earth. It started modern Western civilization on the dangerous trend of worshiping man and his material needs.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

“A World Split Apart” created such a clamor at least in part because it was a highly complex speech that seemed to address several different issues at the same time. To some critics, it wasn’t even very well organized. University of Chicago historian William H. McNeill complained that he saw in Solzhenitsyn’s text “only incoherence and confusion.” 1 New York Times columnist James Reston, obviously offended by much of what Solzhenitsyn said, grumbled that “it sounded like the wanderings of a mind split apart.”2 These criticisms are not without substance.

That said, Solzhenitsyn’s several propositions were perfectly lucid in themselves, even if not set out in an order that led naturally from one to the other. They are too detailed to be examined separately with equal attention, but they essentially consist of some 15 propositions, usually defined under specific headings in the text as originally written. They are as follows:

1. The West has become spiritually exhausted and thus cannot provide a legitimate model for Russia to pursue once the country is no longer ruled by communists.
2. The issue at stake for all humankind is nothing less than a fight for the future of Earth. Battle has already been joined. “The forces of Evil have begun their decisive offensive.”
3. The West, and especially the U.S., has lost its moral clarity. One consequence of this had been the triumph of communists in South-East Asia at the end of the Vietnam War.
4. The West has lost its will to resist evil aggression.
5. The primary reason for humankind’s woes and the West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself

The Faith of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - Part 1 - C.S. Lewis Institute

whut I say …~… Solzhenitsyn has nothing to do with whut I asked you St . I came of age at the peak of the Vietnam War. I had moral clarity on opposing it. Why do you admire a man if you are an American who said America is:

• spiritually exhausted
• has lost its moral clarity
• lost its will to resist evil aggression
• is weak as a consequence of ideas that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.
• West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.

Solzhenitsyn never bothered to get to know the people in the “materialistic“ soulless nation that brought him in. Screw him he has nothing to offer for what’s going on right now with a lawless Republican Party killing our democratic institutions as directed by a handful of billionaires.

Solzhenitsyn I doubt never attended a black church in his Christianity, where no one there man is independent God and his responsibility no one but himself.

But then you like to avoid talking about black Christians who vote for Democrats St .Dont you?

 

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View attachment 1113337Contumacious Post #242 Apr 21, 2025 …~…. Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024

whut I say …~… White Republican Party Covenant Christians kicked the Democratic Party’s multicultural multiracial woke ass in 1984. We recovered after one more election cycle.

Reagan was loved for decades by conservatives after he left office. Reagan had horrible policy for the working class just like Trump, but Reagan was not as fucked up morally and lawless as Trump is known to be.

The Democratic Party.s recovery from the weak red Trump map of 2024 will be swift and solid for decades to come.

Yes. David Hogg will scream for you to elect AOC as a female of color with a token white Pete Buttigieg to get the votes of the gays and the few remaining white people left in America, now taken over and overrun by immigrants from all over the world courtesy of Marotkass.

 

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“A World Split Apart” created such a clamor at least in part because it was a highly complex speech that seemed to address several different issues at the same time. To some critics, it wasn’t even very well organized. University of Chicago historian William H. McNeill complained that he saw in Solzhenitsyn’s text “only incoherence and confusion.” 1 New York Times columnist James Reston, obviously offended by much of what Solzhenitsyn said, grumbled that “it sounded like the wanderings of a mind split apart.”2 These criticisms are not without substance.

That said, Solzhenitsyn’s several propositions were perfectly lucid in themselves, even if not set out in an order that led naturally from one to the other. They are too detailed to be examined separately with equal attention, but they essentially consist of some 15 propositions, usually defined under specific headings in the text as originally written. They are as follows:

1. The West has become spiritually exhausted and thus cannot provide a legitimate model for Russia to pursue once the country is no longer ruled by communists.
2. The issue at stake for all humankind is nothing less than a fight for the future of Earth. Battle has already been joined. “The forces of Evil have begun their decisive offensive.”
3. The West, and especially the U.S., has lost its moral clarity. One consequence of this had been the triumph of communists in South-East Asia at the end of the Vietnam War.
4. The West has lost its will to resist evil aggression.
5. The primary reason for humankind’s woes and the West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself

The Faith of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - Part 1 - C.S. Lewis Institute

whut I say …~… Solzhenitsyn has nothing to do with whut I asked you St . I came of age at the peak of the Vietnam War. I had moral clarity on opposing it. Why do you admire a man if you are an American who said America is:

• spiritually exhausted
• has lost its moral clarity
• lost its will to resist evil aggression
• is weak as a consequence of ideas that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.
• West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.

Solzhenitsyn never bothered to get to know the people in the “materialistic“ soulless nation that brought him in. Screw him he has nothing to offer for what’s going on right now with a lawless Republican Party killing our democratic institutions as directed by a handful of billionaires.

Solzhenitsyn I doubt never attended a black church in his Christianity, where no one there man is independent God and his responsibility no one but himself.

But then you like to avoid talking about black Christians who vote for Democrats St .Dont you?

tl/dr

 

[whutTHEYsay]

tl/dr

But then you like to avoid talking about black Christians who vote for Democrats St .Dont you?

called tgat one!

 

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called tgat one!

Only in your head.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Only in your head.

Why do you admire a man who said America is:

• spiritually exhausted
• has lost its moral clarity
• lost its will to resist evil aggression
• is weak as a consequence of ideas that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.
• West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Why do you admire a man who said America is:

• spiritually exhausted
• has lost its moral clarity
• lost its will to resist evil aggression
• is weak as a consequence of ideas that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.
• West’s current weakness is a consequence of ideas that came to the fore at the Renaissance: that man is independent of God and has responsibility to no one but himself.

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I'd almost bet that ding didn't vote for Biden.




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