Way To Go Hamas

[Phoenall]

Seems to me it should be the Palestinians making peace offerings to Israel instead of the other way around.

The Palestinians have made peace offers many times.

LINK from a reliable non partisan source ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/01/opinion/01yousef.html?_r=0

You do know what a hudna is don't you, a one sided agreement that the muslims can dissolve at any time but the other party cant. The Palestinians did not make peace offerings that issued a set of demands so want to try again with the " MANY Palestinian peace offers "

 

[docmauser1]

We have gone nowhere for decades. Why would we want to stay on the same track?

Since "we" ain't going nowhere, it makes no difference, really.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel sets pre-conditions and refuses to budge. Palestinians set pre-conditions and refuse to budge.

Israel shows no interest towards peace.

Bibi has done zip towards moving closer to a permanent sustainable peace.

Interesting that you glaringly left something out here. In your first sentence you state the facts, but from then on you lay all the blame on Israel. If both sides refuse to budge, would it not be fair to say that the Palestinians and Abbas/Hamas show no interest towards peace either and have done nothing towards moving closer?

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel sets pre-conditions and refuses to budge. Palestinians set pre-conditions and refuse to budge.

Israel shows no interest towards peace.

Bibi has done zip towards moving closer to a permanent sustainable peace.

Interesting that you glaringly left something out here. In your first sentence you state the facts, but from then on you lay all the blame on Israel. If both sides refuse to budge, would it not be fair to say that the Palestinians and Abbas/Hamas show no interest towards peace either and have done nothing towards moving closer?

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

What illegal demands do the Palestinians make?

 

[Coyote]

Israel sets pre-conditions and refuses to budge. Palestinians set pre-conditions and refuse to budge.

Israel shows no interest towards peace.

Bibi has done zip towards moving closer to a permanent sustainable peace.

Interesting that you glaringly left something out here. In your first sentence you state the facts, but from then on you lay all the blame on Israel. If both sides refuse to budge, would it not be fair to say that the Palestinians and Abbas/Hamas show no interest towards peace either and have done nothing towards moving closer?

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, the bottom line here is that neither side trusts one another. Unless their leaders can learn to sit down TOGETHER and discuss things like adults, and learn more about one another and have some semblance of respect and trust for one another, there is never going to be peace between them, IMHO.

 

[aris2chat]

Interesting that you glaringly left something out here. In your first sentence you state the facts, but from then on you lay all the blame on Israel. If both sides refuse to budge, would it not be fair to say that the Palestinians and Abbas/Hamas show no interest towards peace either and have done nothing towards moving closer?

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

How about Israel halt violence and recognize Palestine?

 

[Coyote]

Everyone keeps claiming that the Palestinians keep setting pre-conditions, but ignore the fact that Israel does the same (which you never seem to mention). None of these preconditions are conducive to negotiating peace.

Second - everyone, including you, keep blaming the Palestinians for lack of progress but it isn't just the Palestinians, it's Israel's actions or lack there of, that are contributing to this as well. You never seem to bring that up either.

Since Netyanahu has been in power - what specific steps has he taken to move the process forward? He seems quite happy to keep the status quo. Sharon did more than Bibi in regards to this which leads me to think Bibi does not truly desire peace and feels if he stalls long enough Israel will get everything and the Palestinians left with a permanent occupation/semi-automous status which will not reduce violence.

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

 

[toastman]

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

 

[Coyote]

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

 

[aris2chat]

It is only in recent years that Israel has went in with an agenda based on CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW as it applies to Israel. So their "pre conditions " are actually addendum brought in before the negotiations start. The one that is the most controversial to team Palestine is the recognition of Israel as THE JEWISH STATE, which Arafat had already done. All they are asking is for a reaffirmation of the letters of recognition and the P.A.s acceptance of fact.
The Palestinians go in and demand that illegal conditions be met before they will even think about any negotiations. So the talks are halted even before they begin when the Palestinian representative demands the pre conditions be met. The Israeli contingent sit there and shrug their shoulders, then say what is the point.
The Israelis agree to all peace talks and turn up with initial proposals that are just a starting point for negotiations, how many times has any Palestinian faction refused to meet and just ignored repeated requests by the International community. The next Israeli P.M. might give in to the Palestinians and go down in history as the mass murderer of Jews

Israel has always set pre conditions. They call it "pre conditions for peace". Whatever they call it - it is pre conditions and effectively halts the peace process.

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

Building on land already agreed would be part of a land swap. It is a pointless demand. Not a reason do rejects talks.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

What about the two state solution as a precondition?

 

[MJB12741]

No they are part of the conditions in the negotiations that need to be addressed as part of the deal. They are not like the Palestinian illegal demands that must be met in full before the Palestinians will even consider meeting to talk peace.

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

 

[P F Tinmore]

Preconditions are preconditions and stall negotiations saying certain things must be met. There is no discernable difference if it is "preconditions for peace" or "preconditions to talking" - it's the same thing in the end because it means no peace process without those being met.

I too would like to know what "illegal demands" are being made by the Palestinians.

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

 

[Hossfly]

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

Well, Tinmore, do you agree that statement applies to Hamas as well. To eliminate Hamas?

 

[Roudy]

How the Israel-Palestine Peace Process Collapsed - The Atlantic

Palestinians set new conditions for peace talks to continue - Diplomacy Politics - Jerusalem Post

Halt of violence from G or the WB and recognition of Israel, wow, what unreasonable preconditions! Such an impossible impediment to peace talks. How could Israel possibly expect anyone to agree to such terms. Shame on Israel for thinking there could be any peace talk with such conditions.

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

Ahhhhhh. Name one Islamic entity that has kept its word, or been good for its people and others? Let's not forget about the Hamas charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel, and nullifies all negotiations and peace relatives. After all, Hamas is the Bastard child of the Muslim Brotherhood, the same organization that promised would not run a candidate if Egypt's Mubarak was removed. We all know what happened there. It did and tried to take Egypt back to the dark ages, until the army had to step in and save the nation.

Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization no different than ISIS or Al Queda and will stay that way. The only thing to do with these animals is to crush them and remove them off the land. You can take a clown out of the circus but you can't take the circus out of the clown.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

Well, Tinmore, do you agree that statement applies to Hamas as well. To eliminate Hamas?

Sure. Do you think Hamas could sell a war if there was peace?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The preconditions, on the side of the Palestinians include: freeze on settlements.

Is that unreasonable?

Shame on the Palestinians for thinking there can be peace talks without such conditions!

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

Ahhhhhh. Name one Islamic entity that has kept its word, or been good for its people and others? Let's not forget about the Hamas charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel, and nullifies all negotiations and peace relatives. After all, Hamas is the Bastard child of the Muslim Brotherhood, the same organization that promised would not run a candidate if Egypt's Mubarak was removed. We all know what happened there. It did and tried to take Egypt back to the dark ages, until the army had to step in and save the nation.

Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization no different than ISIS or Al Queda and will stay that way. The only thing to do with these animals is to crush them and remove them off the land. You can take a clown out of the circus but you can't take the circus out of the clown.

 

[Roudy]

And then when it's time to talk, they are going to demand: E. Jerusalem, '67 borders, right of return

The point is - pre-condtions are pre-conditions. It's not conducive to negotiations. Both sides are doing this. They should just drop it and talk - no preconditions to "talks", no "preconditions to peace".

It's not just the Pal's demanding stuff here.

Oh yeah right. No preconditions on either side. Just an agreed truce to begin with so Hamas can build up more weapons to kill more Israeli's after the truce

Ahhh, the eternal pessimist.

If you eliminate the reasons for war, there will not be one.

Ahhhhhh. Name one Islamic entity that has kept its word, or been good for its people and others? Let's not forget about the Hamas charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel, and nullifies all negotiations and peace relatives. After all, Hamas is the Bastard child of the Muslim Brotherhood, the same organization that promised would not run a candidate if Egypt's Mubarak was removed. We all know what happened there. It did and tried to take Egypt back to the dark ages, until the army had to step in and save the nation.

Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization no different than ISIS or Al Queda and will stay that way. The only thing to do with these animals is to crush them and remove them off the land. You can take a clown out of the circus but you can't take the circus out of the clown.