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[Marener]

You have no study to prove that first sentence. In fact, the cuasaion and association of heat disease with saturated fat are weak and tenuous at best.

Extensive data going back 40 years supports it, going back to the Oslo study in 1980 and the WHI around the same time. Framingham study hasn’t shown a decrease in fat intake, in fact it’s increased slightly in the last 30 years.

People don't follow the recommendations because they are wrong. People won't follow any recommendations they don't wish to but it isn't about what people will follow or not.

So if people don’t follow them because they’re wrong, then you really can’t blame them for current poor national health. You have a face validity problem here.

Of course it’s about what people will follow. Otherwise this whole discussion is meaningless and RFK Jr has no solution.

Big Ag and Corporates that are responsible for the food supply are pressured, sometimes even threaten, by the government to provide the foods that they demand and in accordance with the My Plate recommendations.

Wow. Yeah, I can just imagine the USDA thugs showing up to push around some of the largest and richest corporations in the world. Sounds totally legit.

Do you have any substance to this conspiracy?

When the grocers in America provide foods, cheeply, that meed those recommendation, i.e., sugary cerials, processed bke goods, and everything having high frutose corn syrup included, along with pounds of added sugar, how exactly are Americans to make the right choices?

Convenience food and ultra processed food isn’t necessarily more expensive but it is easier and tastier. Those are VERY strong market forces.

Companies are in business to make money and if the consumer demands these products, they’re going to make them.

They are net even given the opportunity to make good choices. The wisdom goes, if you want to eat healthy, shop the perimeter of the stores. But that isn't even save any longer.

Hard to find a grocery store that doesn’t have fresh fruits and vegetables, but those aren’t as tasty as chips and Mt Dew.

When the My Plate requiments are the only options, or are 95% of the options that the citizens get, the argument becomes moot.

They’re clearly not the only options. This is pretty absurd.

 

[Marener]

Their dietary recommendations are to stay away from red meat and to eat a bunch of carbs.

You can eat red meat. Not all carbs are bad.

Don’t eat McDonalds. Start there.

 

[Darkwind]

We're Number One!

Didn't you guys gripe when Michelle Obama pushed for healthy school meals?

Most Americans, includding the kids, would have supported her school meals if they had included good meat and fats along with good fatty vegetables like avocados. Do you think that the kids would have balked at hamburgers (without buns), good beef like steak and cut the veggies.

She wanted the right thing using the wrong tools.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They confirmed a young National Guard Major without even command experience to run the armed forces. Whatever would make you think this nut ball would be in question for that post? You know better, then to sit there feigning suspense. It's a done deal.

I highlighted your error so you can edit your statement.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Confirmations for cabinet positions are largely a dog and pony show.
Pretty sure Trump could send them all home, confirm all picks, then bring them back.
Ofc that would rustle some jimmies.

Send who home?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The nephew and son of one of the greatest Dems ever…

RFK is a good man.

I hope he is confirmed.

If you hate RFK, you hate JFK.

If you hate JFK, you’re not an American

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

How’d that work out?

She may have gone in with good intentions, but was promptly bought out by Big Pharma/Big Food and fully supported serving junk food to kids in school.

Now we have a child obesity and diabetes epidemic.

Good job?

Republicans have a solution............

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17 minutes ago — Republican Rep. Ritch McCormick (R-Ga.) suggested that students should get jobs to pay for their lunches as the federal funding freeze ...

Then they would get free lunch?
At McDonald's?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Several restaurant chains have already brought back beef tallow for their fries!

 

[Zincwarrior]

How’d that work out?

She may have gone in with good intentions, but was promptly bought out by Big Pharma/Big Food and fully supported serving junk food to kids in school.

Now we have a child obesity and diabetes epidemic.

Good job?

Yep. None of that is going to change. Meanwhile, this guy will be in charge of real diseases, vaccines, plagues. etc.

 

[Marener]

Most Americans, includding the kids, would have supported her school meals if they had included good meat and fats along with good fatty vegetables like avocados. Do you think that the kids would have balked at hamburgers (without buns), good beef like steak and cut the veggies.

She wanted the right thing using the wrong tools.

If you’re believing in the health benefits of a high animal fat and low carb diet, the data to support this is practically nonexistent.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

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Okay.


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Cook County, IL state’s attorney recently forced the pot industry there to have to list the danger risks of their product clearly in store and had to remove any advertising suggesting medical benefits. Of course, the pot industry, in compliance with democrat controlled mainstream media, are fighting that result with more misinformation.
Creepy culture.

 

[Independent thinker]

He is a political hack being installed to punish science and stop research and learning.

Why? Because Trump wants revenge on science in general because it highlighted his incompentent response to the Covid epidemic. He wants personal revenge.

So he picks a politician who peddles vaccine conspiracy theories and attacks science.

Were it not for that, Kennedy wouldn't be there at all.

Glad to see the protestors.

Funny though that he has scientific facts democrats want to ignore and bury under the rug.

 

[Darkwind]

Extensive data going back 40 years supports it, going back to the Oslo study in 1980 and the WHI around the same time. Framingham study hasn’t shown a decrease in fat intake, in fact it’s increased slightly in the last 30 years.

The Farmingham study was not a double blind study in controlled environments. It was based on obeevatonal data and questionnaires following a specific group of people and their progeny. None of the study controlled for genetic factors nor other lifestyle considerations. It is mostly dependent upon routine doctor visits (albeit they are at least doctors and know the history of the people) but mostly on questionnaires.

The current issue with the Farmingham study is that it treated the information from the questinaires as factual. When has anyone ever answered a questionnaire that may affect them adversely?

So if people don’t follow them because they’re wrong, then you really can’t blame them for current poor national health. You have a face validity problem here.

Again, they dont' follow them,

A. because they are for all intents of purposes, not given the choice when even their own government is stacked against them, and
B. The medial services are not well trained in nutrition and Doctors are not rained in the causastion of some diseases in addition to their subservience to high phama. They are paid to dispense pills instead of nutritional remedies.
C. They are economily bound to live the cheapest they can and that means poor food choices out of necessity rather than knowledge.

Of course it’s about what people will follow. Otherwise this whole discussion is meaningless and RFK Jr has no solution.

Wow. Yeah, I can just imagine the USDA thugs showing up to push around some of the largest and richest corporations in the world. Sounds totally legit.

Do you have any clue as to how much money the federal government gives corporations in regard to food production? You're little attempt at insulting the American people and those who have put in the research to this problem si pathetic, at best.

Do you have any substance to this conspiracy?

Convenience food and ultra processed food isn’t necessarily more expensive but it is easier and tastier. Those are VERY strong market forces.

Companies are in business to make money and if the consumer demands these products, they’re going to make them.

Hard to find a grocery store that doesn’t have fresh fruits and vegetables, but those aren’t as tasty as chips and Mt Dew.

They’re clearly not the only options. This is pretty absurd.

I don't have at hand the dozens if not hundreds of studies that I have read. Perhaps I should start saving them so that I can waste My time providing links to people who are predisposed to disbelief of anything they don't agree with.

 

[Darkwind]

I clearly neet to take My readers off and put on My contacts so I can see My own spelling mistakes when proof reading. lol

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Cook County, IL state’s attorney recently forced the pot industry there to have to list the danger risks of their product clearly in store and had to remove any advertising suggesting medical benefits. Of course, the pot industry, in compliance with democrat controlled mainstream media, are fighting that result with more misinformation.
Creepy culture.

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[OldFlame]

The real science is proving that is not the case.

A diet primarily based in fats and protein provides every single nutrient necessary for optimal health in humans. In fact, of the 3 macro nutrients found in diet, carbohydrates are unnecessary. 100%. There is zero need for the human body to have carbohydrates.

Zero carb, or even very low carb diets have proven to reverse type II diabetes, if not sure it.

Absolutely, we've been lied to for decades. No drugs, no surgeries, eating whole, non-refined foods, in other words nothing to make anyone money. He also has excellent videos out on Youtube.

The Obesity Code

The Diabetes Code

 

[Marener]

The Farmingham study was not a double blind study in controlled environments. It was based on obeevatonal data and questionnaires following a specific group of people and their progeny. None of the study controlled for genetic factors nor other lifestyle considerations. It is mostly dependent upon routine doctor visits (albeit they are at least doctors and know the history of the people) but mostly on questionnaires.

The current issue with the Farmingham study is that it treated the information from the questinaires as factual. When has anyone ever answered a questionnaire that may affect them adversely?

The studies I quoted to demonstrate the effect wasn’t Framingham, I cited the Oslo study and WHI. I just used Framingham as a means to say our dietary fat consumption has actually been increasing.

Your insistence on a double blind study is pretty hilarious. How do you double blind a study on diet? Jesus. Think.

Again, they dont' follow them,

A. because they are for all intents of purposes, not given the choice when even their own government is stacked against them, and
B. The medial services are not well trained in nutrition and Doctors are not rained in the causastion of some diseases in addition to their subservience to high phama. They are paid to dispense pills instead of nutritional remedies.
C. They are economily bound to live the cheapest they can and that means poor food choices out of necessity rather than knowledge.

Not given the choice? You think the government follows people around the grocery store telling them what to buy? Everyone has choice. Doctors are trained to discuss diet, but adherence to diet is poor and it’s barely a treatment, considering dietary recommendations are almost entirely preventative. Poor food choices aren’t necessarily cheaper. In fact, they’re often more expensive.

Do you have any clue as to how much money the federal government gives corporations in regard to food production? You're little attempt at insulting the American people and those who have put in the research to this problem si pathetic, at best.

Go ahead. Let’s hear it. Are you going to talk about corn subsidies? 40% of US corn production goes to feed livestock. What are you actually referring to? Or are you just repeating talking points and lashing out to hide this.

I don't have at hand the dozens if not hundreds of studies that I have read. Perhaps I should start saving them so that I can waste My time providing links to people who are predisposed to disbelief of anything they don't agree with.

I didn’t ask for hundreds. You apparently don’t have any.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Several restaurant chains have already brought back beef tallow for their fries!

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I love tallow. I rendered and canned a bunch of tallow several years ago and it has stayed wonderfully shelf-stable! I opened up one jar and sniffed and smelled a wonderful smell. It reminds me of the smell of my dad's donuts over 60 years ago, when my folks owned a little diner in a tiny farm town. I'm guessing that my dad fried the donuts in tallow.

Tasted the tallow on my shelf after years of storage and it tastes fabulous.

I remember my grandma's pies with lard in the crusts. Just yummy! Lard was a very important food during the great depression.


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[theHawk]

This country is turning into a joke, when a confused self-contradictory klutz like this is seriously being considered for a role like this, then the country is fucked.

If this is truly the best person Trump can find and emasculated republicans approve, then the country is fucked.

When millions of Americans are so uneducated and reliant on conspiracy fantasists for "truth" the country is fucked.

Yea…how dare we appoint someone not bought off by Big Pharma and wants people to get healthy…

 

[Marener]

Yea…how dare we appoint someone not bought off by Big Pharma and wants people to get healthy…

He’s paid off by fringe anti-vax groups that advocate policies that hurt people.