Was stumped by a Creationist

So where are we besides bripat9643 incessant whiny cries of aliens and humans from apes? NASA claims to have found aliens due to advanced technology. That is a scientific non-sequitur if I ever heard one from these atheist scientists. What do we know about atheist scientists? They are usually WRONG. Today, these scientists can get away with anything since they removed their competition -- creation scientists -- from science. In 200,000+ years, there has been no evidence of aliens while there has been evidence of God throughout this thread.

But they'll keep trying (and failing, i.e. wasting tax payer dollars)
NASA has announced a new plan to find advanced alien civilizations—technosignatures

These robots could help NASA find alien life
 
So where are we besides bripat9643 incessant whiny cries of aliens and humans from apes? NASA claims to have found aliens due to advanced technology. That is a scientific non-sequitur if I ever heard one from these atheist scientists. What do we know about atheist scientists? They are usually WRONG. Today, these scientists can get away with anything since they removed their competition -- creation scientists -- from science. In 200,000+ years, there has been no evidence of aliens while there has been evidence of God throughout this thread.

But they'll keep trying (and failing, i.e. wasting tax payer dollars)
NASA has announced a new plan to find advanced alien civilizations—technosignatures

These robots could help NASA find alien life

Are the quotes from the Bible below facts?

The LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:33-34

So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og ... and we smote him until none was left to him remaining ... from threescore cities ... And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


 
So where are we besides bripat9643 incessant whiny cries of aliens and humans from apes? NASA claims to have found aliens due to advanced technology. That is a scientific non-sequitur if I ever heard one from these atheist scientists. What do we know about atheist scientists? They are usually WRONG. Today, these scientists can get away with anything since they removed their competition -- creation scientists -- from science. In 200,000+ years, there has been no evidence of aliens while there has been evidence of God throughout this thread.

But they'll keep trying (and failing, i.e. wasting tax payer dollars)
NASA has announced a new plan to find advanced alien civilizations—technosignatures

These robots could help NASA find alien life

Are the quotes from the Bible below facts?

The LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:33-34

So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og ... and we smote him until none was left to him remaining ... from threescore cities ... And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


History, as recorded. The Bible is a non-fiction book.
 
I'm the one using creation science and "uniformitarian" thinking.
Shameless lie, two fold. There is no such thing as creation science, and you are the precise opposite of uniformaitarian. You are embarrassing yourself.
 
I'm the one using creation science and "uniformitarian" thinking.
Shameless lie, two fold. There is no such thing as creation science, and you are the precise opposite of uniformaitarian. You are embarrassing yourself.

How can I be lying when I am usually right? It's those who are eschewing creation science, i.e. real science, and spouting the wrong atheist science theories that are lying. 200,000+ years and no evidence of aliens. 200,000+ years and no evidence of abiogenesis although people believed in lies for years. We had a whole generation of adults who ended up believing in the Piltdown Man fraud. See, I even have the you're a "dam" liar Fort Fun Indiana evidence. Will Las Vegas have bets on whether NASA will find aliens, i.e. a microbe, on Mars? Put me down for a $100 on the "No" line. Maybe I can get 10-to-1 odds or even higher as NASA continues to promote its advanced technology.
 
I can see that you're stumped, too, Fort Fun Indiana by a creation scientist. Are you going to bet that NASA will find aliens, even one microbe, on Mars? Put up or shut up.
 
bripat9643, Fort Fun Indiana and others. Here's something interesting about the probability of abiogenesis happening in the past as you claim.

I can't use probability to show that it didn't happen in the past.

The probability that chemicals will spontaneously combine to form a living cell is so small that it is reasonable to believe that it will not happen in the future. Many creationists wil argue that this is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past. Sure, it is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past, but it is not proof that it didn't happen in the past.


We use statistics to calculate what happened in the past. Not probability.

The real proof that abiogenesis didn't happen in the past is still the experiment. We had Dr. Louis Pasteur's famous experiment to show only life begats life. The good reason to believe abiogenesis did not happen in the past is -- scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory, i.e. they have not been able to show observable evidence. This is the best proof that abiogenesis did not happen in the past. Another reason scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory is because they have to violate natural laws to do it.

The scientific proof against abiogenesis is impossibility -- not improbability. Scientific research has shown abiogenesis cannot happen through natural processes

Thus, no aliens :abgg2q.jpg:. There you go.
 
So where are we besides bripat9643 incessant whiny cries of aliens and humans from apes? NASA claims to have found aliens due to advanced technology. That is a scientific non-sequitur if I ever heard one from these atheist scientists. What do we know about atheist scientists? They are usually WRONG. Today, these scientists can get away with anything since they removed their competition -- creation scientists -- from science. In 200,000+ years, there has been no evidence of aliens while there has been evidence of God throughout this thread.

But they'll keep trying (and failing, i.e. wasting tax payer dollars)
NASA has announced a new plan to find advanced alien civilizations—technosignatures

These robots could help NASA find alien life

Are the quotes from the Bible below facts?

The LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:33-34

So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og ... and we smote him until none was left to him remaining ... from threescore cities ... And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


History, as recorded. The Bible is a non-fiction book.
ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?

Do you actually accept the fact that this god you worship is more evil than Hitler or Stalin?

Tell us, do you believe Noah built an ark and loaded two of every kind of animal into it? Do you believe it then rained so much that the water level of the earth rose higher than mount Everest?

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.

(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)
 
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bripat9643, Fort Fun Indiana and others. Here's something interesting about the probability of abiogenesis happening in the past as you claim.

I can't use probability to show that it didn't happen in the past.

The probability that chemicals will spontaneously combine to form a living cell is so small that it is reasonable to believe that it will not happen in the future. Many creationists wil argue that this is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past. Sure, it is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past, but it is not proof that it didn't happen in the past.


We use statistics to calculate what happened in the past. Not probability.

The real proof that abiogenesis didn't happen in the past is still the experiment. We had Dr. Louis Pasteur's famous experiment to show only life begats life. The good reason to believe abiogenesis did not happen in the past is -- scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory, i.e. they have not been able to show observable evidence. This is the best proof that abiogenesis did not happen in the past. Another reason scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory is because they have to violate natural laws to do it.

The scientific proof against abiogenesis is impossibility -- not improbability. Scientific research has shown abiogenesis cannot happen through natural processes

Thus, no aliens :abgg2q.jpg:. There you go.
Creationists argue all kinds of things that are obvious bullshit. There is no scientific proof against abiogenesis. Furthermore, no one ever claimed that that chemicals will spontaneously combine to form a living cell. The fact that abiogenesis did not occur in Pasteur's flask in a few weeks or months does not prove it can't happen under the right conditions in half a billion years.

Every time you post on this subject you only demonstrate your ignorance of science.
 
ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?

Do you actually accept the fact that this god you worship is more evil than Hitler or Stalin?

Tell us, do you believe Noah built an ark and loaded two of every kind of animal into it? Do you believe it then rained so much that the water level of the earth rose higher than mount Everest?

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.
(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)
Good Allah this is beyond stupid. You make so many stupid "points" maybe you could throw out ONE of your "arguments" and DISCUSS one at a time. There are answered to each if you're willing to actually LISTEN. Bu5 I'm guessing you're not interested in DISCUSSION.
 
a·bi·o·gen·e·sis
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    • HISTORICAL
      another term for spontaneous generation.
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ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?

Do you actually accept the fact that this god you worship is more evil than Hitler or Stalin?

Tell us, do you believe Noah built an ark and loaded two of every kind of animal into it? Do you believe it then rained so much that the water level of the earth rose higher than mount Everest?

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.
(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)
Good Allah this is beyond stupid. You make so many stupid "points" maybe you could throw out ONE of your "arguments" and DISCUSS one at a time. There are answered to each if you're willing to actually LISTEN. Bu5 I'm guessing you're not interested in DISCUSSION.
Go right ahead and make your excuses for your genocidal maniac god. Tell us how there's a good reason he told the Israelites to wipe out entire nations to the last man woman and child.

Here, discuss this one quote:

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3
 
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ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?
Yes! Do you have ANY idea who the people who inhabited the Land of Israel were? Think ISIS -- even WORSE. Yes, Man CAN become so vile that he no longer has a place on this earth. That is GOD'S right to judge, not yours. Whole cultures are wiped out BECAUSE THEY BECOME SO EVIL. That should be a lesson to every generation. You can "judge" God, but you really have no say in the matter, puny little child.
 
The American Injun lost "his" land because these people had become too vile and were destined to be replaced.

Do you think they didn't go to war, take slaves, offer human sacrifices, engage in cannibalism and put their elderly out to die in the cold and eaten by wolves? And I'm whitewashing their atrocities.

These events SHOULD serve as a REMINDER to THIS culture that has killed 60 MILLION babies as SACRIFICES TO "CHOICE." Do you think GOD is not judging us NOW?
 
ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?
Yes! Do you have ANY idea who the people who inhabited the Land of Israel were? Think ISIS -- even WORSE. Yes, Man CAN become so vile that he no longer has a place on this earth. That is GOD'S right to judge, not yours. Whole cultures are wiped out BECAUSE THEY BECOME SO EVIL. That should be a lesson to every generation. You can "judge" God, but you really have no say in the matter, puny little child.
The people who had been living in the area for possibly thousands of years were no better than ISIS? Says who? Even the children? Even the ox, the sheep, the camel and the ass? Do you have a list of these atrocities that the Amalek supposedly committed? Are you actually admitting that God told the Israelites to slaughter innocent children and then tell us he's a just and loving god?

That doesn't pass the smell test.

Who says i don't have the right to judge this god of yours? So he goes around committing genocide or any other cruel depravity he likes, but we don't get to make up our own minds about his behavior? If it's not allowed, then why even bring it up? Why not just tell me I have no right to judge your sadistic god and be done with it? Of course, that's not exactly using logic to justify the claim that he's a loving god, is it? If you object to logic, then what's the point of having a discussion?
 
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The American Injun lost "his" land because these people had become too vile and were destined to be replaced.

Do you think they didn't go to war, take slaves, offer human sacrifices, engage in cannibalism and put their elderly out to die in the cold and eaten by wolves? And I'm whitewashing their atrocities.

These events SHOULD serve as a REMINDER to THIS culture that has killed 60 MILLION babies as SACRIFICES TO "CHOICE." Do you think GOD is not judging us NOW?
They sound almost as bad as the Israelites.

The atrocities the white man committed when he settled this land were far worse than anything the Indians did. Just consider the millions of black slaves they imported from Africa. So how does that justify slaughtering innocent children?
 
So where are we besides bripat9643 incessant whiny cries of aliens and humans from apes? NASA claims to have found aliens due to advanced technology. That is a scientific non-sequitur if I ever heard one from these atheist scientists. What do we know about atheist scientists? They are usually WRONG. Today, these scientists can get away with anything since they removed their competition -- creation scientists -- from science. In 200,000+ years, there has been no evidence of aliens while there has been evidence of God throughout this thread.

But they'll keep trying (and failing, i.e. wasting tax payer dollars)
NASA has announced a new plan to find advanced alien civilizations—technosignatures

These robots could help NASA find alien life

Are the quotes from the Bible below facts?

The LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:33-34

So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og ... and we smote him until none was left to him remaining ... from threescore cities ... And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:3-6

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


History, as recorded. The Bible is a non-fiction book.
ROFL! So this god of yours is a genocidal maniac who orders his Iron Age followers to slaughter entire nations of people, just because they happen to occupy some land he wants to give them? He orders them to slaughter every last man woman and child. You actually admit that?

Do you actually accept the fact that this god you worship is more evil than Hitler or Stalin?

Tell us, do you believe Noah built an ark and loaded two of every kind of animal into it? Do you believe it then rained so much that the water level of the earth rose higher than mount Everest?

GE 7:19-20 The flood covered the earth with water fifteen cubits (twenty plus feet) above the highest mountains.

(Note: This would require steady, worldwide rainfall at the rate of about 6 inches per minute, 360 inches per hour, 8640 inches per day--for 40 days and nights--so as to cover the entire earth with an endless ocean 5 miles deep, thus burying 29,000 ft. Mt. Everest under 22 ft. of water. How did the author know the depth of the water? Did Noah take soundings? And where has all this water gone?)

It's documented in the Bible and one of the first questions new members have about God because of the abhorrent violence and genocide of nations. God isn't a murderer. He was doing what was necessary and had morally sufficient reasons for their destruction. The Canaanite people and their culture were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites’ sin was so repellent that God said, “The land vomited out its inhabitants” Levitcus 18:25. He wasn't evil like Hitler and Stalin who were atheists.

And he was an even more angry God when he destroyed the world with the great flood. The water came from underneath the sea and we have mountain ranges that are under the ocean. The water also came from above as it rained 40 days and nights. How else does one explain Earth being covered with 3/4 water? We are the only planet like it in the universe. The water was high, but not as high as Mt. Everest today. The mountain wasn't as high in the past so could have been covered completely with water. It became higher from the flood and earthquakes underneath the ocean.

God promised that he will not destroy the Earth again with a global flood. We find that floods kill the most amount of people in terms of natural disasters. Furthermore, there is a flood story in practically every culture in the world. This is due to the global flood or Noah's Flood. The next destruction of the world is prophecized and will be one of fire that will destroy the Earth. There won't be a dawn that day and it will be dark and a giant gamma ray explosion will set the world ablaze. If Sir Isaac Newton was right, then it will happen around 2060, but no one will know and be ready for that day. God said he will keep the beginning and end to himself. This also goes for the beginning and end of life. We will never really be able to define when and what that is. We have clinical death, but people have returned from that. It's the point of no return that we do not know.

After reading and studying the Bible more, we find that there are people who are interested in the prophecies. There are many, from simple to complex, and so far all of them have come true, but how many people believe in a global flood. Unfortunately, there wasn't many people left to witness and document the story. We have the Biblical account and mythical tales from most every part of the world. People like Richard Dawkins and you think they know better and make mockery, but then they would be able to disprove Jesus' resurrection. If you could do that, then you would destroy Christianity. So far, Dawkins and his followers haven't been able to do that. The Catholics have the Shroud of Turin and I think that has been debunked.

ETA: We'll have the James Webb telescope online soon. I doubt they will find another planet like earth covered with so much water. Also, it's interesting that atheist Bill Nye discovered one of the evidence for the flood and the fool didn't even realize it. He documented it and I can post the youtube if you haven't seen it.

Like I said atheist scientists, i.e. secular scientists, do not know this because they have systematically eliminated creation scientists from science. What's funny is these scientists try to contradict what the Bible and creation scientists are saying. The manned expedition to Mars is specifically to find aliens or evidence of past alien life. All of evolutionary thinking and history is to do the same in order to disprove what it says in the Bible or what creation scientists have said. Like what I said in this thread.
 
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bripat9643, Fort Fun Indiana and others. Here's something interesting about the probability of abiogenesis happening in the past as you claim.

I can't use probability to show that it didn't happen in the past.

The probability that chemicals will spontaneously combine to form a living cell is so small that it is reasonable to believe that it will not happen in the future. Many creationists wil argue that this is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past. Sure, it is good reason to believe it didn't happen in the past, but it is not proof that it didn't happen in the past.


We use statistics to calculate what happened in the past. Not probability.

The real proof that abiogenesis didn't happen in the past is still the experiment. We had Dr. Louis Pasteur's famous experiment to show only life begats life. The good reason to believe abiogenesis did not happen in the past is -- scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory, i.e. they have not been able to show observable evidence. This is the best proof that abiogenesis did not happen in the past. Another reason scientists have not been able to cause it to happen in the laboratory is because they have to violate natural laws to do it.

The scientific proof against abiogenesis is impossibility -- not improbability. Scientific research has shown abiogenesis cannot happen through natural processes

Thus, no aliens :abgg2q.jpg:. There you go.
Creationists argue all kinds of things that are obvious bullshit. There is no scientific proof against abiogenesis. Furthermore, no one ever claimed that that chemicals will spontaneously combine to form a living cell. The fact that abiogenesis did not occur in Pasteur's flask in a few weeks or months does not prove it can't happen under the right conditions in half a billion years.

Every time you post on this subject you only demonstrate your ignorance of science.

Haha. It's your ignorance I expose I afraid. I understand evolution from evolution.berkeley.edu.
 

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