Was/Is What We’re Doing in Iran an Act of War?

[candycorn]

I now see Trump supporters shading the argument...

We are not at war Iran...

It’s a military action

They do this because Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars. Just a quick note...Trump lies more than anyone in the history of the nation...you don’t really need to try to salvage his reputation as being completely dishonest.

Anyway, I was hoping to see if the board is really buying the malarkey.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yes, it is war.

Now, it is your turn to admit that Iran has been engaged in war against the entire western world for nearly five decades, now.

 

[80zephyr]

It was an act of war. But so was getting into WWII.

 

[BluesLegend]

Yes, it is war.

Now, it is your turn to admit that Iran has been engaged in war against the entire western world for nearly five decades, now.

AND has attempted to assassinate Trump twice.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Yes, it is war.

Now, it is your turn to admit that Iran has been engaged in war against the entire western world for nearly five decades, now.

Not yet, it won't last long enough to become a war, unless Congress votes for it.
the military intervention is a response to

Casus belli - Wikipedia

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I'll bet the King of England can't do that.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

AND has attempted to assassinate Trump twice.

That we know about.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Not yet, it won't last long enough to become a war, unless Congress votes for it.

I'll bet the King of England can't do that.

Well, all you need to do is become a leftist and you WILL be the king of England.

After all, what you believe yourself to be is all that matters and leftists are prepared to punish anybody who says otherwise.

 

[DennisPTate]

Yes, it is war.

Now, it is your turn to admit that Iran has been engaged in war against the entire western world for nearly five decades, now.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTE CORRECT THAT IRAN began this decades ago!!!!!

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Well, all you need to do is become a leftist and you WILL be the king of England.

After all, what you believe yourself to be is all that matters and leftists are prepared to punish anybody who says otherwise.

I want to be king of this country.
What about those other two branches,
that's the problem.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

YOU ARE ABSOLUTE CORRECT THAT IRAN began this decades ago!!!!!

444

 

[schmidlap]

It was an act of war. But so was getting into WWII.

I somehow missed Iran's Pearl Harbor.

FDR had a surge of popular support.

The decrepit warlord, very much otherwise:

a majority of Americans—51 percent—now say they strongly disapprove of Trump’s job performance, the highest level recorded in either of his two terms and ...​

Trump’s popularity has reached a record low with independents. Among the group, just 26 percent approve of Trump’s performance, while a record 69 percent disapprove—giving him a net rating of -43, the worst of either term.​

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[struth]

I now see Trump supporters shading the argument...





They do this because Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars. Just a quick note...Trump lies more than anyone in the history of the nation...you don’t really need to try to salvage his reputation as being completely dishonest.

Anyway, I was hoping to see if the board is really buying the malarkey.

Nope it's a military action. Nobody has declared war with Iran.

military actions certainly can be "acts of war" - defense is a "act of war" - sure.....but we aren't at war.

the President has 60 days from when he reported to Congress the use of force to either ask for a declartion of war, or as Obama and Bush used legislation allowing for the use of military force. Until then it's just a military action.

 

[theHawk]

I now see Trump supporters shading the argument...





They do this because Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars. Just a quick note...Trump lies more than anyone in the history of the nation...you don’t really need to try to salvage his reputation as being completely dishonest.

Anyway, I was hoping to see if the board is really buying the malarkey.

It’s war.

People need to stop being pussies about it.

Just hope it’s a short war.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

I somehow missed Iran's Pearl Harbor.

I love that years ago some general said "within minutes the entire iran navy would be resting on the bottom within hours...

Then it happened
The is a safer place today
Because of israel
& our good old USA !

 

[martybegan]

I now see Trump supporters shading the argument...





They do this because Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars. Just a quick note...Trump lies more than anyone in the history of the nation...you don’t really need to try to salvage his reputation as being completely dishonest.

Anyway, I was hoping to see if the board is really buying the malarkey.

It's more like the old concept of a punitive expedition when someone playing out of their weight class did something naughty.

Punitive expedition - Wikipedia

Ivory Coast expedition - Wikipedia

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes, it is war.

Now, it is your turn to admit that Iran has been engaged in war against the entire western world for nearly five decades, now.

Congress now needs to authorize it or restrict it, as is their power.

 

[BlindBoo]

So was bombing the Marine barracks in 83. What was RayGuns response?

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Congress now needs to authorize it or restrict it, as is their power.

Bingo.

War Powers Resolution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[jc456]

I now see Trump supporters shading the argument...





They do this because Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars. Just a quick note...Trump lies more than anyone in the history of the nation...you don’t really need to try to salvage his reputation as being completely dishonest.

Anyway, I was hoping to see if the board is really buying the malarkey.

We've been at war with Iran since the TWA plane was taken hostage under Jimmy Carter.

 

[schmidlap]

It's more like the old concept of a punitive expedition when someone playing out of their weight class did something naughty.

Punitive expedition - Wikipedia

Ivory Coast expedition - Wikipedia

Trump's ceding the decision committing the United States to yet another Middle Eastern regime-change quagmire is opposed by most Americans, including a growing number of MAGAs.

The Trump regime has failed to provide any credible evidence that Iran was even remotely capable of the imminent attack on the U.S. they have concocted as a pretext.