Warren Commission was correct........Oswald acted alone

[rightwinger]

You are getting obsessive

Nobody is claiming it was impossible for Oswald to get a pistol if he needed one. If it was absolutely essential for his plan to kill JFK he could have gone out and bought one on the morning of the 22nd

He didn’t. He proceeded with the assassination without a pistol. Proof that he did not consider it that important

Okay…that is a great discussion to have. I would ask what changed between that morning and 12:30 or so when he killed Kennedy then that made him all of the sudden “consider it important” then.

What changed was Oswald went from being an assassin to being a man on the run

Once he was on the run, he realized a pistol may be necessary

Would you call that poor planning?

Thank you

You are proving the point of this thread.......Oswald acted alone

Conspiracy involves the act of conspiring. Working with someone else to come up with a “plan”

Oswald found out about the JFK motorcade the day before while at work. His “plan” was simple.......I need to go home and get my rifle

Any conspiracy would have helped him do that. Give him access to something as simple as a car. Here, take my car and go home get our rifle then drive to your rooming house and get your pistol. Or even...Nere is $200....Go out and buy a rifle and pistol

Oswald had none of that......proof he acted alone

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

 

[candycorn]

Okay…that is a great discussion to have. I would ask what changed between that morning and 12:30 or so when he killed Kennedy then that made him all of the sudden “consider it important” then.

What changed was Oswald went from being an assassin to being a man on the run

Once he was on the run, he realized a pistol may be necessary

Would you call that poor planning?

Thank you

You are proving the point of this thread.......Oswald acted alone

Conspiracy involves the act of conspiring. Working with someone else to come up with a “plan”

Oswald found out about the JFK motorcade the day before while at work. His “plan” was simple.......I need to go home and get my rifle

Any conspiracy would have helped him do that. Give him access to something as simple as a car. Here, take my car and go home get our rifle then drive to your rooming house and get your pistol. Or even...Nere is $200....Go out and buy a rifle and pistol

Oswald had none of that......proof he acted alone

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

 

[rightwinger]

What changed was Oswald went from being an assassin to being a man on the run

Once he was on the run, he realized a pistol may be necessary

Would you call that poor planning?

Thank you

You are proving the point of this thread.......Oswald acted alone

Conspiracy involves the act of conspiring. Working with someone else to come up with a “plan”

Oswald found out about the JFK motorcade the day before while at work. His “plan” was simple.......I need to go home and get my rifle
K
Any conspiracy would have helped him do that. Give him access to something as simple as a car. Here, take my car and go home get our rifle then drive to your rooming house and get your pistol. Or even...Nere is $200....Go out and buy a rifle and pistol

Oswald had none of that......proof he acted alone

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

 

[candycorn]

Would you call that poor planning?

Thank you

You are proving the point of this thread.......Oswald acted alone

Conspiracy involves the act of conspiring. Working with someone else to come up with a “plan”

Oswald found out about the JFK motorcade the day before while at work. His “plan” was simple.......I need to go home and get my rifle
K
Any conspiracy would have helped him do that. Give him access to something as simple as a car. Here, take my car and go home get our rifle then drive to your rooming house and get your pistol. Or even...Nere is $200....Go out and buy a rifle and pistol

Oswald had none of that......proof he acted alone

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

 

[rightwinger]

Thank you

You are proving the point of this thread.......Oswald acted alone

Conspiracy involves the act of conspiring. Working with someone else to come up with a “plan”

Oswald found out about the JFK motorcade the day before while at work. His “plan” was simple.......I need to go home and get my rifle
K
Any conspiracy would have helped him do that. Give him access to something as simple as a car. Here, take my car and go home get our rifle then drive to your rooming house and get your pistol. Or even...Nere is $200....Go out and buy a rifle and pistol

Oswald had none of that......proof he acted alone

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

 

[candycorn]

Think about the russian attacks on our election in 2016. The reason putin didn’t sign the checks to facebook was so that he can say, “who me” if someone started asking questions; as they are doing now. If the election got swayed…upside for Putin. If the election did not…the only thing ventured was the purchase of some facebook ads and utilization of an already robust hacking component of the russian intel apparatus. Essentially nothing. If the attempts to sway did work (and they did only due to the electoral college), maximum upside; a puppet in the Oval Office.

Your theory holds water if it’s someone equally invested as Oswald is. I agree.

In my theory, you have a putin-like actor who ventured little if anything. If Oswald, chickens out or misses; oh well. If Oswald delivers…maximum upside.

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

 

[rightwinger]

With Oswald, there is no evidence of even “stealth” assistance

Oswald had about $200 to his name. Most he left for his wife and child.
Somebody slipping him even $50 would have helped him to go buy a better gun, a pistol, a means to escape

Oswald had none of it

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

 

[candycorn]

No, he wouldn’t in my scenario…wouldn’t he.

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Here is $10....go to town
Oswald did not even have $10 to spare...he was on his own

If I was a foreign agent, I would give him $200 to buy a car and $50 to buy a better rifle

 

[candycorn]

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Here is $10....go to town
Oswald did not even have $10 to spare...he was on his own

If I was a foreign agent, I would give him $200 to buy a car and $50 to buy a better rifle

If I was Oswald, I would have collected my pistol before needing it....like everyone else on earth would have done.

 

[rightwinger]

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Here is $10....go to town
Oswald did not even have $10 to spare...he was on his own

If I was a foreign agent, I would give him $200 to buy a car and $50 to buy a better rifle

If I was Oswald, I would have collected my pistol before needing it....like everyone else on earth would have done.

Most on earth would not have.

In Oswald's shoes you would have a choice, one or the other. Both would not be reasonable.

That was proven many posts ago.

So you're saying it was Impossible for him to gather his arsenal before killing JFK?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sorry you cannot have it your way.

It was unreasonable for him to retrieve both. Nor did he have a reason to get both.

The fact is....he didn’t get his pistol before the assassination

He went home to get the rifle he needed. While there, he left his wife almost $200
If he thought a pistol was that important to his plan, he could have held out $50 to buy one

It was obviously not that important

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes, in a super stealth conspiracy where nobody actually conspires it wouldn’t

My premise is that Oswald acted alone
If nobody provided any assistance, he did act alone

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Yes.

If it were feasible that a foreign agent did all that they would ENSURE that everything went as they planned.


The EXTREME lack of evidence ruins your speculation about foreign agents no matter how much you ignore facts and obssess about the ARSENAL you claim Oswald possessed.

 

[candycorn]

Here is $10....go to town
Oswald did not even have $10 to spare...he was on his own

If I was a foreign agent, I would give him $200 to buy a car and $50 to buy a better rifle

If I was Oswald, I would have collected my pistol before needing it....like everyone else on earth would have done.

Most on earth would not have.

In Oswald's shoes you would have a choice, one or the other. Both would not be reasonable.

That was proven many posts ago.

So you're saying it was Impossible for him to gather his arsenal before killing JFK?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sorry you cannot have it your way.

It was unreasonable for him to retrieve both. Nor did he have a reason to get both.

The fact is....he didn’t get his pistol before the assassination

He went home to get the rifle he needed. While there, he left his wife almost $200
If he thought a pistol was that important to his plan, he could have held out $50 to buy one

It was obviously not that important

It was so unimportant…he went to collect the pistol when he should have been getting out of town big time.

That comment made zero sense. Sorry but that statement was something I’d expect from a 9/11 truther. If it wasn’t important, he wouldn’t have gone to get it after the assassination. Obviously something changed at or around the time of the assassination.

 

[candycorn]

Fair enough as always….

My premise is that there was one shooter in Dallas; Oswald. But the wheels were set in motion by others. You called me “obsessive” about the pistol earlier—lol—perhaps. I don’t see how you and Soup can be so dismissive of the fact that the man goes through all of the trouble of taking the rifle, packaging it up, telling his ride it’s “curtain rods”, shoots the President…

THEN

Instead of getting the hell out of Dodge, goes home, gets his pistol, encounters a cop, shoots the cop, kills the cop, wanders around, goes into a theater of all places and is arrested.

WHEN

he had means, motive, and opportunity to take care of all of the highlighted stuff before.
Most criminals are not going to put more in their inbox than is required.

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Yes.

If it were feasible that a foreign agent did all that they would ENSURE that everything went as they planned.


The EXTREME lack of evidence ruins your speculation about foreign agents no matter how much you ignore facts and obssess about the ARSENAL you claim Oswald possessed.

He had a rifle
He had a pistol.

He brought one to work but figured he wouldn’t need the other….

Until..

He shot Kennedy and realized that he wasn’t going to get the help he was promised.

Does the lack of evidence of assistance prove there wasn’t any that was promised? No. But it also doesn’t prove the contrary. His actions after the assassination are incredibly strange.

 

[Soupnazi630]

If I was Oswald, I would have collected my pistol before needing it....like everyone else on earth would have done.

Most on earth would not have.

In Oswald's shoes you would have a choice, one or the other. Both would not be reasonable.

That was proven many posts ago.

So you're saying it was Impossible for him to gather his arsenal before killing JFK?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sorry you cannot have it your way.

It was unreasonable for him to retrieve both. Nor did he have a reason to get both.

The fact is....he didn’t get his pistol before the assassination

He went home to get the rifle he needed. While there, he left his wife almost $200
If he thought a pistol was that important to his plan, he could have held out $50 to buy one

It was obviously not that important

It was so unimportant…he went to collect the pistol when he should have been getting out of town big time.

That comment made zero sense. Sorry but that statement was something I’d expect from a 9/11 truther. If it wasn’t important, he wouldn’t have gone to get it after the assassination. Obviously something changed at or around the time of the assassination.

He had no means to get out of town big time.

The statement you are referring to makes perfect sense.

Yes he would have gone to get it AFTER the assassination because something changed.

What changed was that he managed to slip away from the murder scene. Until then it was unimportant.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Shows a lack of planning on his part

Items that a conspiracy with others would have easily resolved
Things like getting a gun, access to a car, a means to escape

Juxtaposed to the planning it did require to package up the gun

Wrap it in brown paper and claim it is curtain rods?
Not much of a plan

Now, if he had a coconspirator, with something as complex as “a car”
He could have just driven it to work

If I was about to commit the crime of the Century from my workspace and you were a foreign agent who encouraged me to do so; would you give me a ride to work and be seen with me?

Yes.

If it were feasible that a foreign agent did all that they would ENSURE that everything went as they planned.


The EXTREME lack of evidence ruins your speculation about foreign agents no matter how much you ignore facts and obssess about the ARSENAL you claim Oswald possessed.

He had a rifle
He had a pistol.

He brought one to work but figured he wouldn’t need the other….

Until..

He shot Kennedy and realized that he wasn’t going to get the help he was promised.

Does the lack of evidence of assistance prove there wasn’t any that was promised? No. But it also doesn’t prove the contrary. His actions after the assassination are incredibly strange.

He kept both in separate locations and could only reasonably retrieve one of them. The pistol was unimportant as his goal was to shoot Kennedy which required a rifle.

There is no evidence of even a circumstantial nature that he was promised help.

All high profile assassins act incredibly strange which is why your constant obsession with a detail is stupid. You are attempting to apply arm chair logic to a person whose actions were devoid of logic.

Strange behavior does not support idiotic speculation of " assistance ". And yes in fact lack of evidence points to no assistance as some evidence would have been found. Such conspiracies never last.

 

[rightwinger]

If I was Oswald, I would have collected my pistol before needing it....like everyone else on earth would have done.

Most on earth would not have.

In Oswald's shoes you would have a choice, one or the other. Both would not be reasonable.

That was proven many posts ago.

So you're saying it was Impossible for him to gather his arsenal before killing JFK?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sorry you cannot have it your way.

It was unreasonable for him to retrieve both. Nor did he have a reason to get both.

The fact is....he didn’t get his pistol before the assassination

He went home to get the rifle he needed. While there, he left his wife almost $200
If he thought a pistol was that important to his plan, he could have held out $50 to buy one

It was obviously not that important

It was so unimportant…he went to collect the pistol when he should have been getting out of town big time.

That comment made zero sense. Sorry but that statement was something I’d expect from a 9/11 truther. If it wasn’t important, he wouldn’t have gone to get it after the assassination. Obviously something changed at or around the time of the assassination.

Once again highlighting poor planning on the part of Oswald
Hardly, a high placed conspiracy

Pistol or no pistol....Oswald was not going to get away
He only lasted slightly over an hour on the street

Some conspiracy

 

[rightwinger]

If Oswald had assistance in the crime he would have gotten a better rifle, a car, spending money and a pistol if he wanted one

 

[Soupnazi630]

If Oswald had assistance in the crime he would have gotten a better rifle, a car, spending money and a pistol if he wanted one

Like many others the whole premise of CandyCorns gobblety gook about the pistol is that someone like Oswald and his actions can be analyzed rationally and we can compare his actions to a logical intelligent persons actions.

It is strange how few people seem to apply this nonsense to common crime. After all when the average gangsta commits a drive by shooting why do they not plan ahead and steal or borrow or buy a more ordinary looking car instead of taking the bright red cadillac with spinning rims which they normally cruise in thus making it easier for them to be identified?

Why does the average bank robber not set off a huge explosion a few miles away to draw off the police from his target?

Why does the average jealous husband who gets drunk and shoots his cheating wife and her lover not throw his murder weapon into the nearest lake or river but instead hangs on to it which allows it to be seized as evidence?

We see examples of criminals behaving stupidly ALL the time. Even those who plan the crime such as bank robbers or drive by shooters. What Oswald did was JUST a murder. The fact that the victim was the president only makes it a famous murder but still just a murder.

The fact that Oswald showed some planning but of a poor and incomplete manner is simply normal and typical of homicidal individuals. Candycorns stupidity lies in thinking EVERYONE ELSE WOULD HAVE GRABBED THE PISTOL TOO. He then jumps to the idiotic conclusion that since Oswald did something different than what other people would have done that he has proven a conspiracy.

No they would not have because not just anyone would have tried to commit murder of the president with a rifle. Only a very few deranged individuals would try to murder the president. Such people by definition will probably not think or act like most normal and intelligent people. Therefore an inconsistency or anomaly is evidence of ...... nothing.

 

[Soupnazi630]

If Oswald had assistance in the crime he would have gotten a better rifle, a car, spending money and a pistol if he wanted one

Of course we cannot prove it one way or the other but it is entirely plausible maybe even somewhat probable that Oswald did not even think OF his hand gun until he slipped away. From the moment he found out that the presidents motorcade would drive by the TSBD (which he probably learned afternoon on thursday nov 21st ) he likely spent his entire time thinking of how to retrieve the rifle and smuggle it into his place of employment.

He was likely imagining different scenarios of how it would turn out. Possibly thinking of what to say if asked uncomfortable questions by someone.

Another interesting anomaly which no one can explain is what would he have done if several co workers remained on the sixth floor with him? There was no way he could have known he would be alone on the sixth floor. Of course this is also one more fact which ruins conspiracy theories since there was no way for anyone else to have relied on his being alone. The point is he may have had some sort of plan in mind for this, he may have spent considerable time coming up with alternatives for various obstacles.

As it stands he got lucky and everyone left the sixth floor leaving him alone in his snipers nest. But in all likelyhood he was consumed with many thoughts of what could happen before the shooting and he may have been planning how to react.